Re: Discussion about 4.1 timeframe (was Re: What to do about Kompare?)

2007-12-14 Thread Cyrille Berger
On Friday 14 December 2007, Andreas Pakulat wrote: Are you sure about that? I don't know how SuSE or RedHat and others do their releases but I'd expect them to need at least 2 or rather 4 weeks after a KDE 4.1 release until its patched up/fixed for inclusion in the next release. So if the next

Re: Discussion about 4.1 timeframe (was Re: What to do about Kompare?)

2007-12-14 Thread Torsten Rahn
I agree to Mauricio's points, we should do a 'relatively quick' 4.1, then try to move into a time-based release schedule. End January: Lifting feature freeze for trunk/ End of March: (feature/string) freeze trunk/ Mid May: KDE 4.1 I fully agree with Sebas here: What we need most right now

Re: Discussion about 4.1 timeframe (was Re: What to do about Kompare?)

2007-12-14 Thread Andreas Pakulat
On 14.12.07 15:49:24, Cyrille Berger wrote: On Friday 14 December 2007, Andreas Pakulat wrote: Are you sure about that? I don't know how SuSE or RedHat and others do their releases but I'd expect them to need at least 2 or rather 4 weeks after a KDE 4.1 release until its patched up/fixed

Re: What to do about Kompare?

2007-12-13 Thread Matt Rogers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Dec 13, 2007, at 5:49 AM, Sebastian Kuegler wrote: On Thursday 13 December 2007 12:35:29 Mauricio Piacentini wrote: I think we might want to bump pretty quickly to a 4.1 release and that's when we can enable it again (and move some games and

Re: What to do about Kompare?

2007-12-13 Thread Matt Rogers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Dec 13, 2007, at 5:53 AM, John Tapsell wrote: +1 vote for not including and having a 4.1 release within 3-4 months of 4.0. I think everyone can be satisfied with that. I'm not. :P You get basically two months to develop and add new features

Re: What to do about Kompare?

2007-12-13 Thread Andreas Pakulat
On 13.12.07 07:10:20, Matt Rogers wrote: On Dec 13, 2007, at 5:53 AM, John Tapsell wrote: +1 vote for not including and having a 4.1 release within 3-4 months of 4.0. I think everyone can be satisfied with that. I'm not. :P You get basically two months to develop and add new features

Re: What to do about Kompare?

2007-12-13 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
On Thursday 13 December 2007 14:08:32 Matt Rogers wrote: How do people feel about this as rough planning? How about starting a new thread for it instead? Good call. I'll post a more thought-through proposal shortly. -- sebas http://www.kde.org | http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9

Discussion about 4.1 timeframe (was Re: What to do about Kompare?)

2007-12-13 Thread Mauricio Piacentini
I'm not. :P You get basically two months to develop and add new features and that's quite crazy. If we do this, you once again leave out KDevelop and kdewebdev from the release because i don't think those are going to be ready in 3-4 months. You also leave out a significantly better

Re: Discussion about 4.1 timeframe (was Re: What to do about Kompare?)

2007-12-13 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
On Thursday 13 December 2007 16:59:16 Mauricio Piacentini wrote: Well, I think that *AFTER* 4.0 it is wrong to continue doing feature-based releases, and we could experiment a bit with schedule-driven ones. If it is 3 or 4 or 6 or 8 months it is open for discussion. But the basic idea is:

Re: Discussion about 4.1 timeframe (was Re: What to do about Kompare?)

2007-12-13 Thread Mauricio Piacentini
Aaron J. Seigo wrote: of course that's what we always used to do. 2.0 and 4.0 have been the only two exceptions i can think of since i've been around the project. Yes, this was something we talked about during last Akademy, when there was the suggestion to move to 6 months cycle. We already

Re: Discussion about 4.1 timeframe (was Re: What to do about Kompare?)

2007-12-13 Thread Mauricio Piacentini
Aaron J. Seigo wrote: If something can not be done in 3 months, it is doubtful that it would be ready in 4 or 5, at least in the open source world, right? i haven't seen that to be the case, no. The half of my brain that almost understands English is confused by this double negative, in

Re: Discussion about 4.1 timeframe (was Re: What to do about Kompare?)

2007-12-13 Thread Thomas Zander
On Thursday 13 December 2007 18:25:16 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: After 4.1, we should probably experiment with the 6 month release schedule that seems to be working for other projects, for certain values of working. for at least one major project, there was an immediate and noticeable decline in

Re: Discussion about 4.1 timeframe (was Re: What to do about Kompare?)

2007-12-13 Thread Thomas Zander
On Thursday 13 December 2007 18:43:53 Mauricio Piacentini wrote: i'd sooner see us (loosely) sync along with the Qt dev cycle (which has become much more regular, ~9 month per release) to keep a steady flow of feature / bug fixes going between KDE and Qt. Ok, keeping a pace with Qt

Re: What to do about Kompare?

2007-12-11 Thread Kevin Kofler
Excellent.  Great News! Then I suggest you:  1)  commit your patches into kdesdk/kompare  2) uncomment the add_subdirectory(kompare) line in kdesdk/CMakeLists.txt I need SVN commit access for that first. Oh,... but before doing that... any idea how many new i18n() strings are in your

Re: What to do about Kompare?

2007-12-11 Thread Tom Albers
Op Tuesday 11 December 2007 03:14 schreef u: If Kevin wants to take over maintenance, that's fine, but making Kompare ready for KDE 4.0 seems like a goal not reachable considering when the release is going to be. Hi Matt, Seeing the recent mail about the current state of Kompare from

Re: What to do about Kompare?

2007-12-11 Thread Matt Rogers
On Tuesday 11 December 2007 05:08:09 Tom Albers wrote: Op Tuesday 11 December 2007 03:14 schreef u: If Kevin wants to take over maintenance, that's fine, but making Kompare ready for KDE 4.0 seems like a goal not reachable considering when the release is going to be. Hi Matt, Seeing the

Re: What to do about Kompare?

2007-12-11 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Tuesday 11 December 2007 14:10:36 Matt Rogers wrote: On Tuesday 11 December 2007 05:08:09 Tom Albers wrote: Op Tuesday 11 December 2007 03:14 schreef u: If Kevin wants to take over maintenance, that's fine, but making Kompare ready for KDE 4.0 seems like a goal not reachable

Re: What to do about Kompare?

2007-12-11 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
On Tuesday 11 December 2007 20:40:38 Allen Winter wrote: On Tuesday 11 December 2007 10:07:09 Sebastian Kügler wrote: On Tuesday 11 December 2007 14:10:36 Matt Rogers wrote: On Tuesday 11 December 2007 05:08:09 Tom Albers wrote: However, seeing as the change has already been made,

Re: What to do about Kompare?

2007-12-11 Thread Mauricio Piacentini
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm with Matt here, as much as i'd love a kompare on KDE 4.0 we began removing unmaintained games and not allowing new ones in kdegames quite a time ago, actually when the schedule said so, so if we had applied the the same rule to kdesdk, kompare would have

Re: What to do about Kompare?

2007-12-10 Thread Albert Astals Cid
A Dimarts 11 Desembre 2007, Allen Winter va escriure: On Monday 10 December 2007 18:04:16 Kevin Kofler wrote: In Bug 153463 [1], Kevin Kofler provides some patches to make the current Kompare code in kdesk compile (and work, I guess). It definitely works here, at the very least. :-)

Re: What to do about Kompare?

2007-12-10 Thread Allen Winter
On Monday 10 December 2007 18:18:04 Kevin Kofler wrote: Excellent.  Great News! Then I suggest you:  1)  commit your patches into kdesdk/kompare  2) uncomment the add_subdirectory(kompare) line in kdesdk/CMakeLists.txt I need SVN commit access for that first. Ok, I committed your

Re: What to do about Kompare?

2007-12-10 Thread Andreas Pakulat
On 10.12.07 18:13:20, Allen Winter wrote: On Monday 10 December 2007 18:04:16 Kevin Kofler wrote: In Bug 153463 [1], Kevin Kofler provides some patches to make the current Kompare code in kdesk compile (and work, I guess). It definitely works here, at the very least. :-) Kevin,

Re: What to do about Kompare?

2007-12-10 Thread Matt Rogers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Dec 10, 2007, at 4:50 PM, Allen Winter wrote: Howdy, Kompare currently isn't being built in kdesdk. In fact, the kdesdk/CMakeLists.txt file has this line: MESSAGE(STATUS Kompare from the branches/work/kompare/3-way- kompare will replace \

Re: What to do about Kompare?

2007-12-10 Thread Matt Rogers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Dec 10, 2007, at 5:16 PM, Albert Astals Cid wrote: A Dimarts 11 Desembre 2007, Allen Winter va escriure: On Monday 10 December 2007 18:04:16 Kevin Kofler wrote: In Bug 153463 [1], Kevin Kofler provides some patches to make the current Kompare

Re: What to do about Kompare?

2007-12-10 Thread Matt Rogers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Dec 10, 2007, at 6:04 PM, Allen Winter wrote: On Monday 10 December 2007 18:18:04 Kevin Kofler wrote: Excellent. Great News! Then I suggest you: 1) commit your patches into kdesdk/kompare 2) uncomment the add_subdirectory(kompare) line