Re: Amor Game

2022-12-31 Thread Heiko Becker

On Saturday, 31 December 2022 10:21:28 CET, Luigi Toscano wrote:

Justin ha scritto:
I am also confused, if this is actively maintained, why has 
nobody tagged a

release in 7 years?

If nobody wants to maintain this and release it it's not 
discoverable by users

who might enjoy the game.


People may have felt confident and found the time to do the 
porting but not to

be marked as "the" maintainer. Apart from that the status of amor is not
different from many other software we ship in Gear: it's 
community maintained.


It is partially discoverable by the advanced users and distributions who may
package it from git. If you archive it, nobody will do that, 
and again we have

several example of software apparently inactive which came back to life.


To somewhat conclude this thread I suggest that I'll make an indepent 
relase outside of the Gear collection to get the porting efforts out.


It'll be some time until 22.04 to decide if it should join Gear, but 
personally I'm not overly of adding something which seems barely alive and 
which doesn't work on wayland as intended for architectural reasons.


Regards,
Heiko


Re: Amor Game

2022-12-31 Thread Luigi Toscano
Justin ha scritto:
> I am also confused, if this is actively maintained, why has nobody tagged a
> release in 7 years?
> 
> If nobody wants to maintain this and release it it's not discoverable by users
> who might enjoy the game.

People may have felt confident and found the time to do the porting but not to
be marked as "the" maintainer. Apart from that the status of amor is not
different from many other software we ship in Gear: it's community maintained.

It is partially discoverable by the advanced users and distributions who may
package it from git. If you archive it, nobody will do that, and again we have
several example of software apparently inactive which came back to life.

-- 
Luigi



Re: Amor Game

2022-12-30 Thread Justin
I am also confused, if this is actively maintained, why has nobody 
tagged a release in 7 years?


If nobody wants to maintain this and release it it's not discoverable by 
users who might enjoy the game.


On 30/12/22 23:55, Albert Astals Cid wrote:

El divendres, 30 de desembre de 2022, a les 8:36:59 (CET), Justin va escriure:

Hi Team,

I know most are likely on holidays, just a quick bump on this request.
If nobody has time to maintain Amor we can archive it.

I am a bit confused by your attitude change.

A few days ago you thought it was good enough to release it, now you want to
bury it in archive mode.

Seems weird to me.

If you're looking for maintainers release-team seems the wrong place for it,
i'd ask in kde-devel.

Cheers,
   Albert


Justin

On 23/12/22 20:14, David Faure wrote:

On jeudi 22 décembre 2022 19:47:09 CET Jack wrote:

Question:  Does the amor team want to support a released version?

Any universal statement about the elements of the empty set is true ;)






Re: Amor Game

2022-12-30 Thread Luigi Toscano
Justin ha scritto:
> Hi Team,
> 
> I know most are likely on holidays, just a quick bump on this request. If
> nobody has time to maintain Amor we can archive it.

Please don't.

Unless there are other technical reasons (for example, in the future point in
time where X11 is not supported anymore) then archiving is just removing the
repository from the public attention, even lower than this is now.

We had examples of repositories which has gotten new life because new people
stepped in to maintain them, archiving just make them more invisible. Also, it
makes us remove translations, with more burden to keep them back.

Those above are a general points, which don't just apply to amor.

It's really not a problem to keep it as it is.

If no one is going to port it to Qt6, when we close down Qt5 releases then we
will reevaluate it, as we did when we finally fully stopped releasing Qt4
applications.

Ciao
-- 
Luigi


Re: Amor Game

2022-12-30 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El divendres, 30 de desembre de 2022, a les 8:36:59 (CET), Justin va escriure:
> Hi Team,
> 
> I know most are likely on holidays, just a quick bump on this request.
> If nobody has time to maintain Amor we can archive it.

I am a bit confused by your attitude change.

A few days ago you thought it was good enough to release it, now you want to 
bury it in archive mode.

Seems weird to me.

If you're looking for maintainers release-team seems the wrong place for it,  
i'd ask in kde-devel.

Cheers,
  Albert

> 
> Justin
> 
> On 23/12/22 20:14, David Faure wrote:
> > On jeudi 22 décembre 2022 19:47:09 CET Jack wrote:
> >> Question:  Does the amor team want to support a released version?
> > 
> > Any universal statement about the elements of the empty set is true ;)






Re: Amor Game

2022-12-29 Thread Justin

Hi Team,

I know most are likely on holidays, just a quick bump on this request. 
If nobody has time to maintain Amor we can archive it.


Justin

On 23/12/22 20:14, David Faure wrote:

On jeudi 22 décembre 2022 19:47:09 CET Jack wrote:

Question:  Does the amor team want to support a released version?

Any universal statement about the elements of the empty set is true ;)



Re: Amor Game

2022-12-23 Thread David Faure
On jeudi 22 décembre 2022 19:47:09 CET Jack wrote:
> Question:  Does the amor team want to support a released version?

Any universal statement about the elements of the empty set is true ;)

-- 
David Faure, fa...@kde.org, http://www.davidfaure.fr
Working on KDE Frameworks 5





Re: Amor Game

2022-12-22 Thread Jack

On 2022.12.22 05:59, Justin Zobel wrote:

For some reason, the reply emails aren't coming to me. I have seen the
replies though on the mailing list web interface. Can we add it back
in if it compiles and works as it is carried in Fedora but hasn't been
updated for a while due to the lack of tarballs.


On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 2:18 AM Justin Zobel   
wrote:

>
> Is this no longer released? No tags since 2015.
>
> https://invent.kde.org/games/amor

Useless info:  Gentoo provide a build from git master.  I just tried it  
and it works.
Question:  Does the amor team want to support a released version?   
Someone would have to handle release related tasks, and there would  
likely be an increase in bug reports.


Re: Amor Game

2022-12-22 Thread Justin Zobel
For some reason, the reply emails aren't coming to me. I have seen the
replies though on the mailing list web interface. Can we add it back
in if it compiles and works as it is carried in Fedora but hasn't been
updated for a while due to the lack of tarballs.


On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 2:18 AM Justin Zobel  wrote:
>
> Is this no longer released? No tags since 2015.
>
> https://invent.kde.org/games/amor


Re: Amor Game

2022-12-21 Thread Heiko Becker

On Wednesday, 21 December 2022 21:35:57 CET, David Faure wrote:

This is incorrect, it was ported to Qt5/KF5 later on.
In fact I can run it right now.


I never said it hasn't been ported to Qt5/KF5, keyword in my sentence was 
"at the time" ;-). Meaning in 2015, when it was kicked out, while initial 
porting only seem to have happenend in 2017.



It might not have been released though, no idea about that.


Yeah, nobody asked to get it included again as far as I know.


Re: Amor Game

2022-12-21 Thread David Faure
On mercredi 21 décembre 2022 20:55:15 CET Heiko Becker wrote:
> Hello Justin,
> 
> On Wednesday, 21 December 2022 16:48:28 CET, Justin Zobel wrote:
> > Is this no longer released? No tags since 2015.
> > 
> > https://invent.kde.org/games/amor
> 
> I'm not sure why one would expect releases if there are neither tarballs
> nor tags.
> 
> Apparently it was removed from the Applications releases, because it wasn't
> ported to Qt5/KF5 at the time and it's X11 specific:
> https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-community/2015q3/001621.html

This is incorrect, it was ported to Qt5/KF5 later on.
In fact I can run it right now.

g...@invent.kde.org:games/amor.git builds and runs just fine.

It might not have been released though, no idea about that.

-- 
David Faure, fa...@kde.org, http://www.davidfaure.fr
Working on KDE Frameworks 5





Re: Amor Game

2022-12-21 Thread Heiko Becker

Hello Justin,

On Wednesday, 21 December 2022 16:48:28 CET, Justin Zobel wrote:

Is this no longer released? No tags since 2015.

https://invent.kde.org/games/amor


I'm not sure why one would expect releases if there are neither tarballs 
nor tags.


Apparently it was removed from the Applications releases, because it wasn't 
ported to Qt5/KF5 at the time and it's X11 specific:
https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-community/2015q3/001621.html  


Regards,
Heiko


Amor Game

2022-12-21 Thread Justin Zobel
Is this no longer released? No tags since 2015.

https://invent.kde.org/games/amor