Marc's humorous riposte provides, I suppose, all the analysis that he thinks the Williams' assignment justifies. Having doubts, after laboring in the woodshed from time to time, that such humorous but otherwise pointless posts add anything of substance to the discussion, I will ask those who
. Those who have followed my work over the
years know I have been publicly critical of those who would prohibit teaching
about religion. I have just completed-at the request of the Bible Literacy project,
an affiliate of the American Bible Society- , vetting a text to teach about the
Bible
It is not an easy line to draw, but schools can teach about religion, about religious beliefs, about the roles of religion in history, and so on. But schools cannot teach the religion as truth. The school can teach that Muslims belief there is but one god and Mohammed is his prophet, but cannot
Robert K. Vischer wrote:
Lets focus
on the assignment to
interview a Christian family about Easter and present the findings, as
that
seems, at least in my view, to be the least egregious. If Williams had
given similar interview assignments covering other faith traditions at
Is it a sociology class? I think it depends a lot on purpose and presentation.
I also think that we as lawyers, having been trained in a certain kind of compartmentalization and detachment and objectivity (please don't ignore the certain kind and blast me for an assertion I am not making),
In a message dated 12/10/2004 1:55:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
But would you care to lay odds on whether Mr. Williams had his students interview a Muslim family to find out how they celebrated Ramadan? I'd say they're probably slim to none. All of that will of course
Perhaps we should wait for confirmation that
the "Easter handout" is authentic before judging Mr. Williams based
on it. The source for it is a webpage that is very hostile to Mr. Williams and
to the Alliance Defense Fund.
Mark S. Scarberry
Pepperdine University School of Law
Student writes
"only a person of very low intelligence could believe this. The works
studied are less realistic than the Wizard of Oz and contemptible."
Onlythe worst form of moral monstr could believe that people who did
believe in him deserve to be damned forever." What grade. Does it
In a message dated 12/10/2004 4:28:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Student writes "only a person of very low intelligence could believe this. The works studied are less realistic than the Wizard of Oz and contemptible." Only the worst form of moral monstr could believe that
Sandy's hypothetical is an excellent one, but let me add a refinement: I'm not
sure that this assignment would violate the Establishment Clause, or even that
Williams' assignment did so. Yet would anyone on the list think that it's
unconstitutional for the school to conclude that this
On Friday, December 10, 2004, at 02:27 PM, Ed Brayton wrote:
Steven Jamar wrote:
Is it a sociology class? I think it depends a lot on purpose and
presentation.
Mr. Williams teaches 5th grade.
I should have been more clear -- I was responding to Henderson's
inquiry about could such an assignment
I think the folks in the school district that you refer to would have
had a pretty strong case that many of those assignments were
impermissable. Was there ever a lawsuit filed in that case, by the way?
At any rate, it has nothing to do with this situation. Let me ask you
directly, Jim: do you
In a message dated 12/10/2004 1:14:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
He teaches the resurrection as historical fact, even though it is a religious belief which I and millions of other Americans deny.
Marc raises an interesting point here. Because he has a belief about
I'm not sure that I understand the point here. Is it that it is
acceptable for public school teachers to teach religious beliefs such as
the resurrection of Jesus as historical fact?
Or is it that it is too burdensome for teachers to be saddled
with the responsibility of telling their students
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