Requiring
a Muslim woman to remove her veil for a driver's license photo doesn't violate
her constitutional rights, the Florida Court of Appeal has ruled in affirming a
trial court. Although this case is from September, I do not recall seeing it
before now.
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here to read the full
In a message dated 10/8/05 1:50:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Be fruitful and multiply!
Gosh, sounds like my Northern Irish grandfather, the father of thirteen, because that was one way Ulstermen would keep control--by being more "fruitful" than the Catholics. And we
Chip is absolutely right on the line to be drawn for military
chaplains. With respect to Brad's distinction between involuntarily
convert, pressure, exhort, and persuade, it is one large linguistic stretch to
argue that pressure, exhort, and persuade are voluntarily accepted. They
are
In a message dated 10/8/2005 8:22:38 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
With
respect to Brad's distinction between involuntarily convert, pressure, exhort,
and persuade, it is one large linguistic stretch to argue that pressure,
exhort, and persuade are voluntarily
Jim's twoexamples are
both cases where the potential convert is asking the chaplain to go
further. Those examples suggest amore precise formulation of the
proposed principle against efforts to convert, but are not at all inconsistent
with the insight underlying that proposed principle.
Hi, Chaplain Klingenschmitt. I introduced myself in a post a while back but
have not posted since. I have followed this thread closely and am delighted
that you have joined in. I am a former Coast Guard officer and helicopter
pilot. Perhaps you might consider whether my being compelled to
Jim, of course, has taken my points out of context. When a recruit
seeks out a chaplain for information about the chaplain's religion, that is
entirely different from a chaplain engaging in proselytization on his or her own
initiative. As Doug so rightly pointed out, the chaplain corps
A hypothetical: A soldier in General Washington's army suffers frostbite while camped at Valley Forge, and is ministered to by an Anglican priest. The soldier asks the Anglican whether it is true that God is on the side of King George and that the cold is sent from God to punish the rebels.
What
Ed: ADF doesn't claim to be the largest PILF, just the largest defender of religious liberty. Of course, ADF believes that the ACLU usually attacks--not defends--religious liberty.But as always, the heavy lifting is done by who is defining religious liberty.
Next week, I will be teaching
If this is the distinction -- between responding to inquiries and
engaging on proselytization on his own initiative (and that distinction
makes sense to me) -- then Chaplain Klingenschmitt's problem is nicely
framed. Which side of the line would you put him on? Can't he
reasonably say that he
In a message dated 10/8/2005 11:26:46 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
That rationale for government-sponsored
religion provides no rationale for government-sponsored efforts to initiate
discussions of religious conversion.
I am not entirely certain that this is,
In a message dated 10/8/2005 1:11:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Jim, of
course, has taken my points out of context. When a recruit seeks out a
chaplain for information about the chaplain's religion, that is entirely
different from a chaplain engaging in
That was one of the arguments in Mergens. And I filed a brief supporting the
student prayer club. But the government wasn't paying the leaders of the club,
and it wasn't giving them officer's stripes.
Douglas Laycock
University of Texas Law School
727 E. Dean Keeton St.
Austin, TX 78705
A few points to answer questions that were raised...
1) ALL chaplains are evangelists, in the sense that they promote their own faith message from the pulpit (even if liberal, or non-Christian, they're still evangelizing and persuading and teaching to convince people their point of view is the
As some of you know, I
have rather strong political views. Yet I have argued in my constitutional
law classes that it would be perfectly constitutional (and perhaps desirable to
boot) if a condition of my employment were that I could not wear campaign
buttons in my classes or otherwise make
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