RE: Contraception mandate

2013-08-02 Thread Marc Stern
IS it possible that the search for legislative history on the question of whether in 1997 Congress thought corporations could benefit from religious liberty provisions is anachronistic .Today, that question is colored by one’ s feelings towards Citizens United; in 1997 ( and especially when

Re: Contraception mandate

2013-08-02 Thread James Oleske
Marci - I agree that if one side or the other in the 1997 debate was attempting to make after-the-fact legislative history for RFRA, that history would be of marginal value. But that's not the theory of relevance that Doug offers in his article and that I asked about yesterday. Doug offered the

Re: Contraception mandate

2013-08-02 Thread Marci Hamilton
My point yesterday is that the Coalition am the ACLU are not both sides. Far from it Marci A. Hamilton Verkuil Chair in Public Law Benjamin N. Cardozo Law School Yeshiva University @Marci_Hamilton On Aug 2, 2013, at 12:09 PM, James Oleske jole...@lclark.edu wrote: Marci - I agree that if

Re: Contraception mandate

2013-08-02 Thread Marci Hamilton
Here are some unassailable facts about RFRAs enactment that make 1997 too late to bring for profit corps under RFRAs intended reach 1. The vast majority of RFRA's Legis history is not about its actual content but rather testimony critical of Smith and the Supreme Court. 2. The Coalition had

Re: Contraception mandate

2013-08-02 Thread James Oleske
That strikes me as a perfectly fine argument, but one that goes to the question of whether there actually were any relevant common understandings of the language in 1997, not the question of whether the 1997 legislative history would be irrelevant even if such understandings actually existed. Of

A note from the conlawprof moderator -- Re: Citations to Listserv posts/Contraception mandate

2013-08-02 Thread Scarberry, Mark
I'm the moderator only for conlawprof, and Eugene may have a different suggestion for the religionlaw list, but may I strongly recommend that list posts not be quoted, and positions taken on the list not be attributed, without permission of the poster. I think that is a matter of courtesy, and

Re: Citations to Listserv posts/Contraception mandate

2013-08-02 Thread seanwilsonorg
... Let me present another view. Scholarship is not about vanity; it's about the ideas. Things that are relevant to an idea can come in many forms -- letters, songs, poems, conversations between spouses or a public speech. It could come from a diary or a movie. The trouble comes when we fail