Re: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature

2013-12-09 Thread Penalver, Eduardo
And then there's Florida: A nearly 6-foot-tall "Festivus" pole made from empty beer cans will be put up in the Florida Capitol this week as a not-so-subtle protest to the recent placement of a Christmas nat

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RE: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature

2013-12-09 Thread Marc Stern
The point of this exercise may not be a legal one, but a PR one. And if that is the case, Summum is more or less irrelevant. Of course, it is also possible that the Satanists may have retained an incompetent lawyer. Marc -Original Message- From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mai

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RE: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature

2013-12-09 Thread Douglas Laycock
Haven’t read the opinion, but what Chris describes seems clearly right. Preferential access is a form of endorsement, whether permanent or temporary. These are the facts of Allegheny (one private actor gets to put up a Christmas display in a government building), with the reindeer and snowmen to

RE: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature

2013-12-09 Thread Christopher Lund
The result and logic of Summum make sense to me, but I’ve been a little bothered by how far it’s gone. For example... earlier this year, the 6th Circuit decided Freedom from Religion Foundation v. City of Warren. The City of Warren had a Christmas display in the atrium of their city building

Re: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature

2013-12-09 Thread Steven Jamar
What is the difference? Both open to the public. Both are (probably) unlimited public forums though subject to somewhat differing regulations as to use, one would suppose. But what Summum decided was that it wasn’t the public forum nature of the park that controlled but rather the compelled g

Re: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature

2013-12-09 Thread Len
apologies for the previously unsigned post.   Leonard A. Zanger Camp Quest of Michigan, Inc.   - Original Message - From: "Len" To: "Law & Religion issues for Law Academics" Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 5:31:33 AM Subject: Re: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monu

Re: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature

2013-12-09 Thread Len
Isn't there a significant difference between placing a religious monument in a public park vs placing a religious monument in a State capitol building? - Original Message - From: "Steven Jamar" To: "Law & Religion issues for Law Academics" Cc: religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Sent: Sunda