Re: Bible classes in elementary schools

2017-04-24 Thread Hillel Y. Levin
And remember that the cases that are actually brought are just the tip of the iceberg. I'm convinced that one reason that these aren't challenged often enough to eradicate them entirely is that few people want to be the "Jew/atheist/Muslim/secular humanist/agnostic/etc who stole Christmas." What p

RE: Bible classes in elementary schools

2017-04-24 Thread Christopher Lund
It is astonishing how much defiance there is of the basic principles of Engel and Schempp. The cases are periodic, but the facts are striking and they make you wonder what’s really going on out there. So, for example, one recent case out of the Southern District of Mississippi involved videos

Re: Bible classes in elementary schools

2017-04-24 Thread Nelson Tebbe
CBS This Morning produced a piece about the case in early February — I appear (very) briefly: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/lawsuit-to-end-bible-class-west-virginia-mercer-county-public-schools-separation-church-state/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab8d&linkId=34252653 They obtained some powerful footage from

RE: Bible classes in elementary schools

2017-04-24 Thread Michael Masinter
I grew up in Charleston, W.Va. and attended Kanawha County public schools beginning in 1952 from the first grade through the ninth grade; even before Engle and Abbington Township, we did not have bible study classes. The school district was surprisingly compliant with the constitution as constr

Re: Bible classes in elementary schools

2017-04-24 Thread Chambers, Hank
Hello all - My wife grew up Catholic in Bluefield, Mercer County, W.Va., in the 1980s, and took Bible in middle school. Her take: "Of course, it is unconstitutional and has been for decades, and you felt like an outsider/strange one if you did not take the class." I was bemused when I heard a

Re: Bible classes in elementary schools

2017-04-24 Thread Steven Jamar
I do an informal raise your hand sort of survey of those students in my con law class who had in-public-school instruction in Christianity in elementary school. It ranges from a low of 15% to around 50% each year. Once a student asked me if Catholicism counted as Christian. In that case it was i