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Michael
raises important issues. But I think we eviscerate the idea of a civic culture
in a diverse, deliberative
Subject: Re: School
District drops Intelligent Design Class
The
answer to Michael's pertinent question is critical. I suppose we know only what
to rule out, for example, I believe this is the class that the Lord
wanted me to teach. In my view, teaching in general should
stimulate(provoke
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Subject: Re: School
District drops Intelligent Design Class
I don't think is so hard to enforce. Most people most of the time
follow guidelines and this should be no different. We should not ban
something just because sometimes people stray
Michael raises important
issues. But I think we eviscerate the idea of a civic culture in a diverse,
deliberative democracy if we capitulate to those more interested in teaching
conclusions than inquiry, or more perspicuously stated, more interest in
teaching conclusions incompatible with
So much for the oft-repeated myth that
opponents of intelligent design simply want to keep ID out of the science
classrooms. When I read this article, it seemed pretty clear that
groups like Americans United aren't going to be content with that. They
seem to want to make sure that any student in
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So much for the oft-repeated myth that opponents of
intelligent design simply want to keep
Brad M Pardee wrote:
So much for the oft-repeated myth
that
opponents of intelligent design simply want to keep ID out of the
science
classrooms. When I read this article, it seemed pretty clear that
groups like Americans United aren't going to be content with that.
They
seem to want to
and as a movement.
BobbyRobert Justin LipkinProfessor of LawWidener University School of LawDelaware
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I'm not certain of all the facts or whether the teacher's
purpose was to present the case for ID only, but from what I know I
think Brad is right. What's wrong with teaching the case for and
against ID in a philosophy class? Is it any different from teaching
1. Some opponents want ID out of the schools entirely. Not all or even most of us.2. Brad, do you contend that it is constitutional for a public school to offer a course with the intention of advocating a particular religious belief? That is what this course was.3. Some ID advocates want
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I'm
not certain of all the facts or whether
Okay, there are problematic
facts which makes this case of poor example of the point I'm advocating.
However, I think it's a positive good to have the hot-buttons issues,
creationism, ID, the problem of evil, and other arguments against the
plausibility and even intelligibility of the
To: religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu
Subject: Re: School
District drops Intelligent Design Class
Okay,
there are problematic facts which makes this case of poor example of the point
I'm advocating. However, I think it's a positive good to have the hot-buttons
issues, creationism, ID, the problem of evil
The answer to Michael's
pertinent question is critical. I suppose we know only what to rule out, for
example, "I believe this is the class that the Lord wanted me to teach." In my
view, teaching in general should stimulate(provoke respectfully and
sensitively), and basically being more
I don't think is so hard to enforce. Most people most of the time follow guidelines and this should be no different. We should not ban something just because sometimes people stray across a fuzzy boundary inadvertently or just because some people will intentionally try to abuse the guidelines
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