Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: controller madness (whiz' bang - sparkle!)

2004-12-09 Thread Neil McKie
Last time I was in Kingman, almost fifty years ago, the main highway was two lanes and there were no stop signs in town. I'd bet someone has throughly wrecked that since. Neil - WA6KLA DCFluX wrote: KGMN-FM located in beautiful Kingman, AZ. On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 13:11:13

[Repeater-Builder] Re: 4-wire EM + VoIP

2004-12-09 Thread Nate Duehr
Bob Dengler wrote: ...and if internet isn't available at the site, how about using 802.11b or a to bring it in? I've yet with play with that stuff, but it sounds to me like a pair of gain antennas at each end could get you a couple of miles to where you would have wired internet access.

Re: 4-wire EM + VoIP (was: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Remote Receiver

2004-12-09 Thread Nate Duehr
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm beginning to wonder if we might be competition for something you are cooking up. I'm always cooking, but rarely does the meal taste very good. ;-) Seriously, I'm mostly interested in this just as just part of a larger linked system we already have in place

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 802.11b wireless

2004-12-09 Thread Tedd Doda
On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 18:26:21 -0500, Kevin Custer wrote: however feel free to discuss the technical nature of the subject in any detail here. Hi Kevin: A bunch of us were thinking about setting up a Ham radio only network here near Kitchener. Can you give any details on the reprogramming of

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 802.11b wireless

2004-12-09 Thread Daron J. Wilson
I have a 6.65 mile non-line-of-site path to bring internet access to my home from the center of town where our T1 line exists. I use 802.11b (2.4 gHz) with larger grids (about 24 dB gain) on each end. There are different cards available these days that have better receiver sensitivities

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 802.11b wireless

2004-12-09 Thread Ken Arck
At 07:54 PM 12/8/2004 -0500, you wrote: A bunch of us were thinking about setting up a Ham radio only network here near Kitchener. Can you give any details on the reprogramming of the hardware? ---I'm curious about this myself. I'm installing a Linux machine at my site soon and this would be

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 802.11b wireless

2004-12-09 Thread Ken Arck
At 08:10 PM 12/8/2004 -0500, you wrote: The hardware is Canadian based out of BC, and their website is: https://tranzeo.com/index.php?section_id=10 ---Thanks for the info, Tedd! Let me know what you find out. Although I'm thinking this may be a bit of an overkill for my situation but I'm not

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 802.11b wireless

2004-12-09 Thread Richard D. Reese
There are 11 channels used as the standard for 802.11b/g. They are: Chan 1 2412 GHz Chan 2 2417 GHz Chan 3 2422 GHz Chan 4 2427 GHz Chan 5 2432 GHz Chan 6 2437 GHz Chan 7 2442 GHz Chan 8 2447 GHz Chan 9 2452 GHz Chan 102457 GHz Chan 112462

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 802.11b wireless

2004-12-09 Thread Tedd Doda
On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 17:00:12 -0800, Ken Arck wrote: Hopefully, Kevin's suggestion is Linux usable as well. Hi Ken: I'm the feed point of a commercial 802.11 network, and using their hardware makes things look very easy. The hardware is Canadian based out of BC, and their website is:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 802.11b wireless

2004-12-09 Thread JOHN MACKEY
It should be noted, also, that the channels are overlapping on each other. The only channel setup that would NOT be overlaping it using channels 1,6, 11. There are also channels 12, 13, 14 but they are not authorized in the US. -- Original Message -- Received: Wed, 08 Dec 2004

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 802.11b wireless

2004-12-09 Thread Tedd Doda
On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 20:24:17 -0500, Richard D. Reese wrote: Channels 1 through 8 fall in the Amateur band of 2390 to 2450 GHz. Thanks for clearing that up Richard. I was under the impression that we had some frequencies that were not available for the general public. Tedd Doda, VE3TJD Lazer

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 802.11b wireless

2004-12-09 Thread Richard D. Reese
Just use an encryption key and they will be quite secure from anyone not authorized. If you have 2.4 GHz phones or video links in use you may have to hunt for a channel that is not prone to interference. Probably one of the higher frequencies. Richard D. Reese http://www.wa8dbw.ifip.com

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: controller madness (whiz' bang - sparkle!)

2004-12-09 Thread DCFluX
Depends, RT. 66 is locally known as Andy Devine Ave. and has 5 stop lights on it. But is still quicker than Stokton Hill Rd. and Beale St. trafic wise. On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 16:29:21 -0800, Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last time I was in Kingman, almost fifty years ago, the main

Re: [Repeater-Builder] 802.11b wireless

2004-12-09 Thread Kevin Custer
All, A bunch of us were thinking about setting up a Ham radio only network here near Kitchener. Can you give any details on the "reprogramming" of the hardware? ---I'm curious about this myself. I'm installing a Linux machine at my site soon and this would be good

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 802.11b wireless

2004-12-09 Thread Mike Perryman
Kevin, I am doing exactly the same thing to get internet out to the hamshack... using 12dB Cushcraft collinear cheapies, with my callsign VPN. It is also operating in the ham band. Probably wouldn't pass the test if push came to shove. The link is only used for call lookups monitoring the DX

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: controller madness (whiz' bang - sparkle!)

2004-12-09 Thread Neil McKie
Could be ... as I said (below) I haven't been through there since 1954 or so. ;) Neil DCFluX wrote: Depends, RT. 66 is locally known as Andy Devine Ave. and has 5 stop lights on it. But is still quicker than Stokton Hill Rd. and Beale St. trafic wise. On Wed, 08 Dec 2004

Re: 4-wire EM + VoIP (was: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Remote Receiver

2004-12-09 Thread Wade Lake
Not that I am sticking up for rule breakers or anything, but I doubt the FCC has the manpower to go after 802.11 offenders. It's basically like with CB anymore. If you are not causing major problems for a lot of folks, they arent going to look your way. That being said, I believe in

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 802.11b wireless

2004-12-09 Thread Kevin Custer
Mike Perryman wrote: I had no idea there was this kind of interest in this subject! Maybe I should take this time to promote this list? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Wireless-Internet/ Kevin Custer Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 802.11b wireless

2004-12-09 Thread Neil McKie
Another ... list ? Groan ... Neil - WA6KLA Kevin Custer wrote: Mike Perryman wrote: I had no idea there was this kind of interest in this subject! Maybe I should take this time to promote this list? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Wireless-Internet/ Kevin Custer

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 802.11b wireless aka the next generation of packet

2004-12-09 Thread Russ
i support 2.4 ghz communication data wise as long as its for amateur use only , i know ppl dont want to think about legaities in the ism band but itsnt the same as pirating a call and slammin 80 meter , anyhow i have several proven ideas on long range point to point 50 + miles ,

Re: 4-wire EM + VoIP (was: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Remote Receiver PL)

2004-12-09 Thread Duane Hall
A Cisco router will do everything you need, and the price isnt as bad as you might expect. The MC3810 with an EM module can be purchased pretty cheap. Easily under $400 on eBay. You will of course need one for each end. The MC3810 will do point to point, and the newer boxes will do point to

RE: [Repeater-Builder] RE: ge exec II uhf carfones

2004-12-09 Thread Ted Bleiman K9MDM - MDM Radio
paul i have no low band base station books. what i do have here is low band m2 mobile and base station control shelf manuals you might try new london technologies at 434 525 0068 talk to bill or mark. they may have the book you seek. i did look thru the data files and found nothing about base

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 802.11b wireless

2004-12-09 Thread Nate Duehr
Careful! That channelization map only shows the CENTER frequency of the direct-sequence spread-spectrum channel you're using. I believe Mr. Reese is incorrect in his statement that channels 7 and 8 are in the ham band. Each channel overlaps the channels around it -- they're wide. (Our

[Repeater-Builder] Re: carfones

2004-12-09 Thread skipp025
Re: ge exec II uhf Carfones I saw the Carfone word in the subject line... For a short time I harken back to the RCA Carfone and thought who'd still be using one of those?. Carfone or Carphone was also a radio made by/for RCA... Actually not that bad a unit. cheers skipp

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: carfones

2004-12-09 Thread Neil McKie
Yup! RCA Carfone and Super-Carfones ... remember those well. Just remember to hang up the microphone when you are done. Neil skipp025 wrote: Re: ge exec II uhf Carfones I saw the Carfone word in the subject line... For a short time I harken back to the RCA Carfone and

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 802.11b wireless

2004-12-09 Thread Nate Duehr
Mike Perryman wrote: I have heard some rumblings of TCP/IP experimentation in the ham bands, but no details as of yet. It is a subject I am very interested in. There would be numerous uses for that concept as it relates to our hobby. Hopefully someone can shed a little light on the subject as

[Repeater-Builder] Re: 4-wire EM + VoIP

2004-12-09 Thread Nate Duehr
Duane Hall wrote: A Cisco router will do everything you need, and the price isnt as bad as you might expect. The MC3810 with an EM module can be purchased pretty cheap. Easily under $400 on eBay. You will of course need one for each end. The MC3810 will do point to point, and the newer boxes

[Repeater-Builder] Station master antennas

2004-12-09 Thread Jed Barton
Hey guys, What's the opinion on a good station master, celwav, sinclaire, or what. Any ideas? Thanks, Jed Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 802.11b wireless

2004-12-09 Thread Paul Guello
Has anyone tried a bi-directional amplifier like this one on ebay; http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=61815item=5736479461rd=1ssPageName=WDVW Check the ARRL site for more information on ham use; http://www.arrl.org/hsmm/project.html And check this link for a cool waveguide

[Repeater-Builder] info

2004-12-09 Thread feederclamp
Hello, What would the members recommend as a fairly good repeater, vhf high band? Or two mobiles to make a repeater? Any ideas? This would mainly be used by handhelds. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: carfones

2004-12-09 Thread russ
Hey Skipp, The Phil-Mont group in Philly PA uses a pair on there 147.03 repeater. smile! 73 Russ, W3CH - Original Message - From: skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 12:33 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: carfones

Re: [Repeater-Builder] info

2004-12-09 Thread russ
If you are buying new I (we) have had great luck with the Maggiore repeaters. We have about 20 of them on the air and are very happy. Contact info is Maggiore 610-436-6051. Nice people. We have 3 Kenwood repeaters on the air and like them allot. We got them from Cook Towers there toll free is

[Repeater-Builder] What is best folded Dipole array for 2M

2004-12-09 Thread Robin Staebler
What is best folded Dipole array for 2M. Sources? -- Robin J Staebler, MD WE1MD 144 Head of the Tide Rd Belfast, ME 04915 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email

Re: [Repeater-Builder] What is best folded Dipole array for 2M

2004-12-09 Thread russ
Hi Robin, The DB-224 cut to the Ham band is what many folks go for and it works well. It is made by Decibel Products the list price is only $592.00 or so less Ham discount. So they are cheap enough. But make sure you get it in the Ham range! Do not let some one talk you in to buying one for 150

Re: [Repeater-Builder] info

2004-12-09 Thread russ
Kenwood just started shipping the ver. 2 of the below. They have fixed a few things on the TKR-850 and made it a much better repeater. I just got one of the ver. two's for GMRS and it works even better then the old TKR-850. The down fall is you have to buy the new software. The old software for