Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Master II Pa decks

2009-02-11 Thread Doug Bade
I do not largely recommend the Astron BB series for proper battery maintenance. The issue is the charge voltage is directly related to the operating voltage so to se the appropriate float voltage you need to tweak the operating voltage pot to a lower level and the charge current is strictly

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT Power Factor

2009-02-11 Thread Gary Schafer
This is funny. All they appear to be doing is placing a capacitor across the line at the service panel which gives some power factor correction to motor or other inductive loads. But that correction is AT THE POWER PANEL which is only inches or a few feet at the most away from the meter. If you

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Power Factor

2009-02-11 Thread Don Kupferschmidt
Hi Gary, I was pretty suspicious of what the unit was claimed to do so I didn't give them any money. It's good that we have a reflector like this one with 3000 + members on the list that can give their $0.02 as well as their technical expertise / opinions. Thanks for replying to my original

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Power Factor

2009-02-11 Thread Kevin Custer
Don Kupferschmidt wrote: Hi Gary, I was pretty suspicious of what the unit was claimed to do so I didn't give them any money. It's good that we have a reflector like this one with 3000 + members on the list that can give their $0.02 as well as their technical expertise / opinions. When

RE: [Repeater-Builder] 220MHz items FS - preamp, crystals

2009-02-11 Thread Nate Duehr
Eric, Not trying to ruin your day, but... http://www.advancedreceiver.com/page7.html ...shows the SP220VDG pre-amp at $119.95 brand-new. Not trying to be a cheap ham, just sayin'. For most duplexed repeater setups, the P220VDG on this page: http://www.advancedreceiver.com/page5.html For

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood conversion

2009-02-11 Thread George Henry
Of course, if he is building a repeater for ham use, type acceptance doesn't matter (I whipped up a very nice temporary 440 repeater using 2 Bendix-King EMV4990A mobiles and an NHRC-2 controller. People said it sounded better than the Icom repeater it was filling in for...) George,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Power Factor

2009-02-11 Thread Kevin Custer
I took the time to view their short video. http://www.power-save.com/1200.html They show the Amperage to the load (a motor) is changed with and without the Power Saver. Notice I said Amperage not KiloWatt Hours. KWH's are not referenced in the video, and is what you actually pay for for

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT Power Factor

2009-02-11 Thread Gary Schafer
Kevin, I think that you meant the amperage to the load (a motor) is UNCHANGED with and without the device. I didn't notice the kwh reading on the meter. Good catch! 73 Gary K4FMX -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater- buil...@yahoogroups.com] On

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Power Factor

2009-02-11 Thread Kevin Custer
Gary Schafer wrote: Kevin, I think that you meant the amperage to the load (a motor) is UNCHANGED with and without the device. I wasn't very clear What I meant was the amperage to the load from the first ammeter is changed by the presence the unit. Of course, the amperage to the load

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Power Factor

2009-02-11 Thread Chuck Kelsey
The kWh reading didn't change because the time was too short. If they ran the test for an hour on, reset the meter, then an hour off you could have more easily seen a result -- it wouldn't have mattered -- no savings. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - If you look closely, the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Power Factor

2009-02-11 Thread Paul Plants
You always have to be on the look out for any product that states as seen on TV - Original Message - From: Kevin Custer kug...@kuggie.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 8:33 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Power Factor Gary Schafer

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT Power Factor

2009-02-11 Thread Gary Schafer
No you wouldn't have seen any change in the kwh reading in an hour because there is no change in real power which is what kwh is. If you were measuring kva (volt amperes) then that would change. I would assume that the kwh reading on the (handheld) meter would be instantaneous. Otherwise you

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT Power Factor

2009-02-11 Thread Gary Schafer
-Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater- buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Custer Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 8:33 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Power Factor Gary Schafer wrote:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Power Factor

2009-02-11 Thread Chuck Kelsey
You misunderstood my comment. I agree, there would have been no difference in the readings whether the device was on or off. However the kWh reading would have changed had it been left on long enough, and there was load. Kevin said that the kWh reading didn't change and didn't understand why.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT Power Factor

2009-02-11 Thread Gary Schafer
Sorry Chuck, yes I did misunderstand your comment. I got ahead of myself on kw verses kwh. You are right. Thanks! Gary K4FMX -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater- buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey Sent: Wednesday, February 11,

[Repeater-Builder] Re: 220MHz items FS - preamp, crystals

2009-02-11 Thread kk2ed
Thanks for the pointer, Nate. I price- hecked the ARR website last evening before posting this FS message. I just went back and realized what had happened - I was looking at their commercial page, which lists all of the switched preamps at $150, rather than the amateur page which reflects

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 220MHz items FS - preamp, crystals

2009-02-11 Thread Nate Duehr
kk2ed wrote: Thanks for the pointer, Nate. I price- hecked the ARR website last evening before posting this FS message. I just went back and realized what had happened - I was looking at their commercial page, which lists all of the switched preamps at $150, rather than the amateur page

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Duplexer Information Needed

2009-02-11 Thread no6b
At 2/11/2009 04:11, you wrote: I take it by tuning you mean just adjusting the screws, and not adding or changing anything to them? Yes. Bob NO6B

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT Power Factor

2009-02-11 Thread Eric Lemmon
Kevin, Thank you for revealing that some power-saving TV ads are nothing more than snake-oil pitches. What is never explained clearly is that these green machines simply lower the voltage until the motor (usually in a washing machine- which spends a lot of time lightly loaded) is drawing its

[Repeater-Builder] RE: preamps

2009-02-11 Thread no6b
At 2/11/2009 16:02, you wrote: Eric, Not trying to ruin your day, but... http://www.advancedreceiver.com/page7.html ...shows the SP220VDG pre-amp at $119.95 brand-new. Not trying to be a cheap ham, just sayin'. For most duplexed repeater setups, the P220VDG on this page:

[Repeater-Builder] Mastr II Info Needed

2009-02-11 Thread Joe Burkleo
I have a question for the Mastr II guru's out there. I know the 19D432500G1 PL board will do both Decode and Encode, but I can not find any documentation that shows it operating in both modes at the same time for repeater service. I looked through the manual on the repeater-builder site, but

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II Info Needed

2009-02-11 Thread Butch Kanvick
Hi, Joe. They use seperate Encode and Decode boards in the drawer of the radio. I hope this answers your question. Butch, KE7FEL/r To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: joeburk...@hotmail.com Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 04:34:40 + Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II Info Needed

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT Power Factor

2009-02-11 Thread Thomas Oliver
To all interested: I have examined my customers energy bills and there is a power factor number displayed on every bill, in this case .85 or 85%. Now I don't know if the meter reader actually is reading that off the meter every month or not, I suspect they are only interested in the kWh and

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT Power Factor

2009-02-11 Thread Thomas Oliver
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Mastr II Info Needed

2009-02-11 Thread Joe Burkleo
Butch, Sounds good. Thanks for the info. Joe --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Butch Kanvick hot...@... wrote: Hi, Joe. They use seperate Encode and Decode boards in the drawer of the radio. I hope this answers your question. Butch, KE7FEL/r To: