[Repeater-Builder] Repeater ID Enforcement

2009-04-12 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
I know we're not supposed to discuss FCC rules on this forum, so I hope this isn't across the line. I'm trying to find a Rileygram citing a repeater owner because his repeater ID'd at 10-minute intervals without user input (beaconing). Does anybody happen to have a copy or know where it's

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater ID Enforcement

2009-04-12 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
Been looking. just haven't hit paydirt yet! 73, Mike WM4B From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Mullarkey Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 9:59 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater ID

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater ID Enforcement

2009-04-12 Thread Mike Mullarkey
Go to the www.fcc.gov http://www.fcc.gov/ web page and search there. They are bound by law to post all nasty grams there and are available for the public to view. Hope this helps. Mike _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On

[Repeater-Builder] All Band Repeater - HUMOR

2009-04-12 Thread Bob Underwood
I waited to post this until the auction had ended, but now decided to send it so we can all learn: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:ITitem=270369626907 or search for ended item 270369626907 I especially like the part where he says This is an amazingly

Re: [Repeater-Builder] All Band Repeater - HUMOR

2009-04-12 Thread Rick Szajkowski
So thats what I am doing wrong .. LOL ... On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Bob Underwood b...@rahul.net wrote: I waited to post this until the auction had ended, but now decided to send it so we can all learn:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] All Band Repeater - HUMOR

2009-04-12 Thread Chuck Kelsey
I have to wonder if the listing was posted on April Fool's Day. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Bob Underwood To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 12:55 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] All Band Repeater - HUMOR I waited to post this

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater ID Enforcement

2009-04-12 Thread George Henry
Unfortunately, the FCC web site enforcement listings only go back 10 years, and IIRC, it was WELL before that. Seems to me it was in the early or mid-80's. 73, George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413 - Original Message - From: Mike Mullarkey k7...@comcast.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

RE: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-750

2009-04-12 Thread Randy Brumback
Norm, I am not getting any error message at this time and I am about 90 % sure it is a version 1 as you said. Also Mike has asked me to call him for some information and I will do that. I think I told everyone earlier that I did get the KPG66D to work as long as I didn’t put

RE: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-750

2009-04-12 Thread Randy Brumback
Thanks Jeff! I actually have a factory copy of the service manual that came with the repeater. Randy From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Yahoo Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 2:29 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE:

RE: [Repeater-Builder] All Band Repeater - HUMOR

2009-04-12 Thread Richard
Gosh, and it didn't sell! Richard http://www.n7tgb.net/ www.n7tgb.net _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 11:01 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] All Band Repeater - HUMOR

2009-04-12 Thread Ken Arck
All band repeater? Sounds like some I've seen (whose name shall remain unmentioned) light up a spectrum analyzer like a Christmas Tree whenever its transmitter goes active! Ah well.. the 1970's implementation of spread spectrum!) (and sure bet that Bearcat receiver is a fine performing one

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater ID Enforcement

2009-04-12 Thread Randy Brumback
Mike, I am sitting here wondering if a nasty-gram would be considered enforcement? If they are two different things then looking in the enforcement section might not be the right place. Randy From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike

Re: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-750

2009-04-12 Thread NORM KNAPP
Ok, if you are not getting an error messsage, then the repeater should be in lock. You only put the repeater in program mode when changing firmware. Just do the best you can with the voltages on the VCO. Maybe you should call Kenwood Tech support. Did you say that your repeater was a 146-174mhz

RE: [Repeater-Builder] All Band Repeater - HUMOR

2009-04-12 Thread no6b
At 4/12/2009 11:40, you wrote: Gosh, and it didn't sell! Richard http://www.n7tgb.net/www.n7tgb.net Although he was asking too much, at least he did a good job on the packaging. Bob NO6B

Re: [Repeater-Builder] All Band Repeater - HUMOR

2009-04-12 Thread no6b
At 4/12/2009 11:49, you wrote: All band repeater? Sounds like some I've seen (whose name shall remain unmentioned) light up a spectrum analyzer like a Christmas Tree whenever its transmitter goes active! Ah well.. the 1970's implementation of spread spectrum!) Just because it's an HT doesn't

Re: [Repeater-Builder] All Band Repeater - HUMOR

2009-04-12 Thread Chuck Kelsey
I thought the twist-on BNC connector and the hacked off power cable, along with some of the other I/O wiring was particularly impressive ;-) NOT! Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - Although he was asking too much, at least he did a good job on the packaging.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater ID Enforcement

2009-04-12 Thread no6b
At 4/12/2009 11:55, you wrote: Mike, I am sitting here wondering if a nasty-gram would be considered enforcement ? If they are two different things then looking in the enforcement section might not be the right place. Generally speaking, the FCC has decreed that a repeater shall not speak

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater ID Enforcement

2009-04-12 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
No… it was within the last year or so. From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of George Henry Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 2:30 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater ID Enforcement Unfortunately,

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater ID Enforcement

2009-04-12 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
A lot of the nasty-grams are posted, but I'm starting to wonder the same thing. It might have been in ARRL letter or something like that. Mike WM4B From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy Brumback Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 2:56 PM

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater ID Enforcement

2009-04-12 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
Same thing I'm thinking. It really doesn't fit the definition of 'broadcasting' or 'beaconing', but it's definitely a one-way transmission. Just trying to prove a point to someone less-informed! 73, Mike WM4B From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com]

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater ID Enforcement

2009-04-12 Thread MCH
Yet Amateur Radio repeaters can legally transmit 24/7/365 (literally) and would then be required to put out and ID every 10 minutes... Note that this was not always the case - the requirement that repeaters cease transmitting within 5 seconds was removed from Part 97 in the 90s. Joe M.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater ID Enforcement

2009-04-12 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 06:10 AM 04/12/09, you wrote: I know we’re not supposed to discuss FCC rules on this forum, so I hope this isn’t across the line. I’m trying to find a Rileygram citing a repeater owner because his repeater ID’d at 10-minute intervals without user input (beaconing). Does anybody happen

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater ID Enforcement

2009-04-12 Thread Jim WB5OXQ inb Waco, TX
I hear a repeater in the area that Id's a lot but it is also carrier squelch and the squelch pops a lot 24/7 and that probably caused this one to id a lot. It does not seem to be at a regular interval and some days are worse than others. Nevertheless it is id'ing on its own without a carrier

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater ID Enforcement

2009-04-12 Thread MCH
It doesn't have to be 'recognizable' (at least I never saw any such wording in the rules). The key is that it's not IDing on its own - it's being triggered by a signal on the input. I use CTCSS on my repeaters (most of them) gated by the COS, so I hear almost no IDs. Hence, they don't bother

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater ID Enforcement

2009-04-12 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
If my O-O Coordinator can't lay his hands on it, I might do that. I specifically remember the letter because it made me do the 'RCA Victor Dog' thing until I thought about it for a few minutes. I'd just never thought about it before! More than anything, it drives me nuts not being able to

Re: [Repeater-Builder] All Band Repeater - HUMOR

2009-04-12 Thread David Struebel
And it has been relisted...you have another shot at it! Dave WB2FTX - Original Message - From: n...@no6b.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 3:28 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] All Band Repeater - HUMOR At 4/12/2009 11:40, you

[Repeater-Builder] Re: All Band Repeater - HUMOR

2009-04-12 Thread Louis
Does anybody know where to get the boxes he used for the scanner and Ht - would like to have a couple of those for a project! Seems I have seen that set-up on someones website, cannot remember where! Thanks! --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Bob Underwood b...@... wrote: I waited to

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: All Band Repeater - HUMOR

2009-04-12 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
Google is your friend. Look up die cast box. They are stock items - made by Bud Corp. Look on Mouser. http://www.mouser.com/search/Refine.aspx?N=4294950054No=50 Mike WA6ILQ At 06:29 PM 04/12/09, you wrote: Does anybody know where to get the boxes he used for the scanner and Ht - would like

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: All Band Repeater - HUMOR

2009-04-12 Thread Eric Lemmon
Hammond makes a line of die-cast boxes that are available from Mouser Electronics. Start here: http://www.mouser.com/catalog/637/1891.pdf 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Louis Sent:

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater ID Enforcement

2009-04-12 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
Is this it ? https://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2002/09/18/100/?nc=1 Mike WA6ILQ At 05:10 PM 04/12/09, you wrote: If my O-O Coordinator can’t lay his hands on it, I might do that. I specifically remember the letter because it made me do the ‘RCA Victor Dog’ thing until I thought about it

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater ID Enforcement

2009-04-12 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
Nope. I saw that one too and it piqued my interest, but the one I'm thinking of was just a simple violation of the 'speak when spoken to' philosophy. just a repeater sending it's callsign every 10 minutes whether active or not. When I find it, I'll wonder why it took so long1 Thanks es 73,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater ID Enforcement

2009-04-12 Thread David Struebel
This example seems to be more of an interference issue as opposed to broadcasting but I remember I had the same feeling when I saw the original FCC response. Dave WB2FTX - Original Message - From: Mike Morris WA6ILQ To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 12,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater ID Enforcement

2009-04-12 Thread no6b
At 4/12/2009 15:04, you wrote: Yet Amateur Radio repeaters can legally transmit 24/7/365 (literally) and would then be required to put out and ID every 10 minutes... ...so long as they're retransmitting the communications of other amateur stations. Some busy IRLP reflectors Echolink conference

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater ID Enforcement

2009-04-12 Thread Jeff DePolo
You're probably looking for this one. http://www.fcc.gov/eb/AmateurActions/files/2007_04_12_10_26_52.pdf --- Jeff -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer (WM4B)

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater ID Enforcement

2009-04-12 Thread Paul Plack
Bob, actually I believe the change was prompted by the NASA space shuttle rebroadcasts. 73, Paul, AE4KR - Original Message - From: n...@no6b.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater ID Enforcement

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater ID Enforcement

2009-04-12 Thread JOHN MACKEY
Didn't something come out a few years ago where the FCC relaxed those rules and a repeater can now ID every 10 mins without activity? -- Original Message -- Received: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 12:42:38 PM PDT From: n...@no6b.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder]