RE: [Repeater-Builder] wp-639 -- How far should I expect to move the invar rods?

2009-07-19 Thread Mike Mullarkey
You need to have a service monitor that has a tracking generator / spectrum analyzer to accurately tune the duplexer. Find someone that has one help you with tuning the duplexer. If nobody has one, take it to a radio shop and ask if they could please re tune it. They may or not charge you.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: wp-639 -- How far should I expect to move the invar rods?

2009-07-19 Thread Joe
Hopefully, you have only tried to tune on of the cans. If you still have a can that is tuned to the original frequency they were working (???) on, try to follow the procedure on repeater builders carefully. If you get that one working, you can try to set the rods to the same dimensions as

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: wp-639 -- How far should I expect to move the invar rods?

2009-07-19 Thread Chuck Kelsey
There's no way to tell how much, the adjustments interact with each other. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - The question remains though, how much should I expect to have to move the plastic stick in the reject adjustment?

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: wp-639 -- How far should I expect to move the invar rods?

2009-07-19 Thread Gary Hoff
Joe is correct, if you're going to try an tune it without the proper test equipment, you will not get it perfect. It may work, but not as well as it could. Early in my career, I was able to tune a duplexer with a couple HT's, one for xmit and one for receive, but I found I needed a step

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: wp-639 -- How far should I expect to move the invar rods?

2009-07-19 Thread NORM KNAPP
If you bring them to me I will (try to) tune them for you... No charge. - Original Message - From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun Jul 19 07:33:17 2009 Subject: Re:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] ROIP - Cheap

2009-07-19 Thread Doug Bade
Jon; Using the dsb dongle which is a CM108 chip based usb audio interface one of the internal I/O pins of the device is mapped for each ptt and cor.. BUT.. COR is not really needed as the device DSP can handle signal to noise squelch and will work better on its own on raw

[Repeater-Builder] Convert 406-420mhz Mastr II to ham band

2009-07-19 Thread Dave Cochran
Okay guys, I might be biting off more than I know here, but I've been tasked out to try to get this accomplished for a new fledgling group of hams here. How much effort is really involved in converting a 406-420Mhz Mastr II machine (combination ending in 77) up to the ham band? Need to start

[Repeater-Builder] Re: ROIP - Cheap

2009-07-19 Thread rahwayflynn
Ethernet on a fiber backbone. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Kevin King kc6...@... wrote: Martin, What transport are you using between the routers? Are you Ethernet to another router or do you have a T1 wic in the 2600's? -Original Message- From:

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Convert 406-420mhz Mastr II to ham band

2009-07-19 Thread dakaratcaptivereefing
Should have added this is a Mastr II station (Comb #DC757YAU77D). Thanks, Dave --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Dave Cochran d...@... wrote: Okay guys, I might be biting off more than I know here, but I've been tasked out to try to get this accomplished for a new fledgling group of

[Repeater-Builder] Re: ROIP - Cheap

2009-07-19 Thread George Csahanin
Has anybody ever found a cookbook setup for this. I have a pair of 2600's, and the VIC-2E/Ms, and NM-1's, but it seems my IOS version is 12.3 and won't do it, plus, IOS, while fairly intuitive, has so many crankhandles that I get lost in the setup. It seems that while the hardware may be

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Convert 406-420mhz Mastr II to ham band

2009-07-19 Thread de W5DK
Dave, The component differences may be detailed out in the LBI's for the 77 or 88 split models. But, just trade somebody the receiver front end/LO and exciter from an 88 split. Your 77 is less common. Easy change out then align and you're going. 73 Don W5DK -Original Message- From:

[Repeater-Builder] Ethernet to 4 wire

2009-07-19 Thread Mike Mullarkey
Is there a cheap converter that will take an Ethernet connection and be able to convert to 4 wire to connect directly to a controller port. If we could have, COR, PTT, RX Audio TX Audio this would be a great way to link via Ethernet. I thought I would throw this out there to see if anybody

RE: [Repeater-Builder] wp-639 -- How far should I expect to move the invar rods?

2009-07-19 Thread Thomas Oliver
Watch your signal strength meter on your radio. The input signal may not be weak enough to hear a noisey-quiet-noisey Actually while tuning for a notch you need to be listening to the freq you are trying to notch and it will be a quiet-noisey-quiet as you move the notch rod on the side. Tune for

[Repeater-Builder] Re: ROIP - Cheap

2009-07-19 Thread rahwayflynn
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, George Csahanin geo...@... wrote: Has anybody ever found a cookbook setup for this. I have a pair of 2600's, and the VIC-2E/Ms, and NM-1's, but it seems my IOS version is 12.3 and won't do it, plus, IOS, while fairly intuitive, has so many

[Repeater-Builder] MOTOTRBO Field Service Bulletins

2009-07-19 Thread Eric Lemmon
I have just uploaded to the Files section of this Group five FSBs (Field Service Bulletins) that pertain to MotoTrbo equipment. Of particular importance is FSB10163, which addresses the correct procedure to follow when upgrading the firmware in XPR repeaters, mobiles, and portables. Those

[Repeater-Builder] Sinclair Hybrid Ring Duplexer

2009-07-19 Thread de W5DK
Yesterday, with a buddy, I attempted to tune my first set of hybrid ring duplexers. I have successfully tuned many sets of duplexers and didn't expect to have any trouble with a minor freq move. I have read and understand the theory behind the design.

[Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering types of coax connectors

2009-07-19 Thread w9xt...@sbcglobal.net
My experience has been that if you use a high quality cable, high quality connector and crimping dies made specifically for the particular cable and connectors...crimp-on will working very well. It won't be cheap though. I have, when practical, soldered the connector tip to the cable...after

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: ROIP - Cheap

2009-07-19 Thread Kevin King
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/12_3t/12_3t7/feature/guide/gtlmrip.pdf This document has a good set of examples of how to set this up. You should be able to download the version of IOS you need. Or the friend that gave them to you might have the ability to get it from Cisco. -Kevin

[Repeater-Builder] wp-639 rexolite

2009-07-19 Thread hbbcara
Hi again, In my first post I miswrote a thing or two and much confusion as to my question ensued. Hopefully I've written this more clearly. Thank you to all who responded to my earlier question and my apologies for wasting your time by having you answer the wrong question. I have a

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering types of coax connectors

2009-07-19 Thread Barry
I wonder what you call not cheap? I paid lots for my soldering station and much less for my crimps ($80.00) as example for coax , the current crimps have done many thousands of connectors and might be replaced before i retire which will mean 2 decades of use .

[Repeater-Builder] Help specifications or tuning instructions for WP-747L3 / WP-447L1 cavities

2009-07-19 Thread Steven M Hodell
Has anyone seen / modified any Wacom Preselector cavities model WP-747L3 / WP-447L1 for use in the 222 / 224 Amateur Band Split? I have purchased a set of these cavities (they are still in the UPS truck) and I was trying to find any tuning information for them. So far all I can find is some

Re: [Repeater-Builder] wp-639 rexolite

2009-07-19 Thread Gary Hoff
I have in face tuned a WP-639 and would guess for that freq swing from 146.97 to 146.88 it will be very little movement of the rod assuming the pass tuning is correct. Remember, the rexolite rod is tuning the notch and that notch is relative to the pass setting of the invar rod. It is extremely

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Convert 406-420mhz Mastr II to ham band

2009-07-19 Thread Jim Brown
Dave, I have moved about 5 stations that were in Forrest Service use around 417 mHz, and have a few suggestions. Buy a mobile 88 split receiver and don't attempt to change the 77 receiver front end.  I modified three of them by removing one quarter turn from each of the helical resonators, and

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair Hybrid Ring Duplexer

2009-07-19 Thread Jim Brown
I helped a buddy check a set of Sinclair VHF Hybrid Ring duplexers a couple of years ago, and was really impressed by the performance of that 4 cavity duplexer.  We had +20 dB available at the output of the signal generator and could not see the bottom of the notches on a 80 dB spectrum

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Convert 406-420mhz Mastr II to ham band

2009-07-19 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 08:05 AM 07/19/09, you wrote: Okay guys, I might be biting off more than I know here, but I've been tasked out to try to get this accomplished for a new fledgling group of hams here. How much effort is really involved in converting a 406-420Mhz Mastr II machine (combination ending in 77) up to

[Repeater-Builder] Re: wp-639 rexolite

2009-07-19 Thread hbbcara
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gary Hoff k7ney...@... wrote: I have in face tuned a WP-639 and would guess for that freq swing from 146.97 to 146.88 it will be very little movement of the rod assuming the pass tuning is correct. Remember, the rexolite rod is tuning the notch and