Re: [Repeater-Builder] WACOM WP-641 Duplexer

2004-10-17 Thread James
Bob Dengler wrote: At 10/15/2004 09:19 AM, you wrote: Duplexer companies that use RG8, 58, 213, or any of that noisy crap should be "burned at the stake" :) ...including Phelps-Dodge? I don't think so. The only problem with the coaxes you mention is that the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] WACOM WP-641 Duplexer

2004-10-15 Thread Tony King - W4ZT
I recently wondered the same thing about a Phelps Dodge six cavity duplexer here. I found that all six cables including the two to the tee connector were the same length: 8-3/4 inches tip to tip on PL-259 connectors. (http://repeater.w4zt.com/duplexer/) The problem here was noise, lots of it,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] WACOM WP-641 Duplexer

2004-10-15 Thread Bob Dengler
At 10/15/2004 09:19 AM, you wrote: Duplexer companies that use RG8, 58, 213, or any of that noisy crap should be burned at the stake :) ...including Phelps-Dodge? I don't think so. The only problem with the coaxes you mention is that the braid is not solid or silver-plated. If any water

Re: [Repeater-Builder] WACOM WP-641 Duplexer - how embarassing

2004-10-14 Thread rogeradio
got a large portion of humble pie to eat! Anybody got any catsup? RG-400 is indeed double shielded. BUT, that brown transparent coax I have looks like RG-400 and has an mil std number stamped on it, but is single shielded. The tag attached to the coil says RG-400. It's in the trash can

Re: [Repeater-Builder] WACOM WP-641 Duplexer

2004-10-13 Thread Eric Lemmon
Neal, The best answer to your question is probably: Whatever works! Both Bill Lieske of EMR and Len Pringle of Telewave have given me pretty much the same answer about jumper lengths for duplexers they manufacture. In most duplexers, the cavities are individually tuned for the desired

Re: [Repeater-Builder] WACOM WP-641 Duplexer

2004-10-13 Thread rogeradio
Interesting! emphasize double shielding and recommending RG214. RG-223 is double shielded, it isn't recommended. Why. RG-142 and RG-400 are single shielded and are considered qualified. Hm (:) Roger, W6TOZ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go

Re: [Repeater-Builder] WACOM WP-641 Duplexer

2004-10-13 Thread Neal Newman
Interesting I would have thought that also... However one of the existing cables is stamped WACOM and its RG-213 This is why I am confused about the type cable.. BTW the WP-641 is a 4 cavity 8" Can Duplexer... Neal Eric Lemmon wrote: regarding jumper cables, they should always be

Re: [Repeater-Builder] WACOM WP-641 Duplexer

2004-10-13 Thread Joe
Some well known manufacturers did use RG-213 and RG-8 for duplexer interconnecting cables. Some people upgraded the cables to double shielded coax, but you have to take velocity factor into consideration when making the new cables. 73, Joe, k1ike --- Neal Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] WACOM WP-641 Duplexer

2004-10-13 Thread James
Any RG142 or RG400 I have worked with clearly has two shields in it. James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting! emphasize double shielding and recommending RG214. RG-223 is double shielded, it isn't recommended. Why. RG-142 and RG-400 are single shielded and are considered

Re: [Repeater-Builder] WACOM WP-641 Duplexer

2004-10-13 Thread James
On my factory original set of 641's, the cables are RG 214. James Joe wrote: Some well known manufacturers did use RG-213 and RG-8 for duplexer interconnecting cables. Some people upgraded the cables to double shielded coax, but you have to take velocity factor into consideration when

Re: [Repeater-Builder] WACOM WP-641 Duplexer

2004-10-13 Thread Kevin Custer
Neal Newman wrote: Interesting I would have thought that also... However one of the existing cables is stamped WACOM and its RG-213 This is why I am confused about the type cable.. Wacom referred to 'their' RG-213, as "Modified RG-213", which was actually RG-214, and was truly double

Re: [Repeater-Builder] WACOM WP-641 Duplexer

2004-10-13 Thread Neal Newman
Thanks Kevin I thought it was RG-214 However it is stamped RG-213 Now Everyone has skipped a rock on the lake and avoided the answer to the question. all 4 cables are different lengths.. I would have thought they would Be close to the same length.. James says He has a set of WP641's but also

Re: [Repeater-Builder] WACOM WP-641 Duplexer

2004-10-13 Thread James
I have placed a call to find that out, mine are no wheres near me. If I get the information back, I will post it here. 13" sounds correct. My duplexer has PL connectors on it. Here is what you could do now. Your cables should be electrically 1/4 wave length (or ODD multiples of). I would

Re: [Repeater-Builder] WACOM WP-641 Duplexer

2004-10-13 Thread XE2SI
2004 6:55 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] WACOM WP-641 Duplexer Thanks KevinI thought it was RG-214 However it is stamped RG-213Now Everyone has skipped a rock on the lake and avoided the answer to the question.all 4 cables are different lengths.. I would have thought they

Re: [Repeater-Builder] WACOM WP-641 Duplexer

2004-10-13 Thread Neal Newman
--- Original Message - From: Neal Newman To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 6:55 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] WACOM WP-641 Duplexer Thanks Kevin I thought it was RG-214 However it is stamped RG-213 Now Everyone has skippe

Re: [Repeater-Builder] WACOM WP-641 Duplexer

2004-10-13 Thread albemarle7
Neil, OK, here is the scoop on the interconnecting cables. I just measured a Wacom 641 factory manufactured for 146.445/147.445. All the cables are exactly 12.75 inches long PL connector tip to tip. Both Rx and Tx sides, and going to combiner Tee antenna connector are all the same length.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] WACOM WP-641 Duplexer

2004-10-13 Thread Neal Newman
Thank You James.. Neal James wrote: I have placed a call to find that out, mine are no wheres near me. If I get the information back, I will post it here. 13" sounds correct. My duplexer has PL connectors on it. Here is what you could do now. Your cables should be

Re: [Repeater-Builder] WACOM WP-641 Duplexer

2004-10-13 Thread Bob Dengler
At 10/12/2004 10:47 PM, you wrote: Interesting! emphasize double shielding and recommending RG214. RG-223 is double shielded, it isn't recommended. Why. RG-142 and RG-400 are single shielded and are considered qualified. Hm (:) RG-142 RG-400 are double-shielded. Bob NO6B

Re: [Repeater-Builder]Wacom WP-641 Duplexer

2004-10-11 Thread Neal Newman
I forgot to mention My measurments were Tip to Tip of the Pl-259 Connectors Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of

Re: [Repeater-Builder]Wacom WP-641 Duplexer

2004-10-11 Thread Neal Newman
Hey Guys.. I am having a problem with My Wacom Cans... I am just Courious what should the Length be for the 4 jumpers.. the 2 between the cans and the 2 that meet at the output Tee. the repeater is on 145.230 and what type cable should Be used ( I think its RG-213) I noticed that