From: "Kevin King" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 7:56 PM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Audio limiting on incoming signals
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> Orban Optimod ! gota love it..
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> Kevin King SCSA BSCIS
> ARS KC6OVD
> GMRS KAG0378
> EIEI
You are correct Ken,
Neil McKie - WA6KLA
Ken Arck wrote:
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> At 07:52 PM 4/13/2005 -0500, you wrote:
... snip ...
> In other words, simply adjusting the output of the controller to
> obtain 4.5 Khz deviation ain't gonna do it. Unless you force the
> transmitter into actual limitin
Orban Optimod ! gota love it..
Kevin King SCSA BSCIS
ARS KC6OVD
GMRS KAG0378
EIEIO 2722
Acworth Georgia
3. Get a CBS Volumax or Orban broadcast audio processor for your TX
audio. We use the latter for space shuttle audio over our repeater & it
really improves intelligibility.
Bob NO
At 4/13/2005 10:57 PM, you wrote:
>I agree with Kevin on this, it's just a few users, and in person, these few
>people talk very loud, I think they are deaf, I just want the system to be
>heard all over the band, was the only reason I asked if there was a way to
>basically shunt it at a maximum,
The ALC cards process both repeated audio and console audio unless the
system is in bypass. I can scan the block and level diagrams if you
like. PST is Public Safety Trunk - Ssb
I'm assuming when you say clear voice, you mean analog, (VOICE APPLIED
TO THE CONSOLES IS ANALOG AND CONVERTED FRO
Steve Bosshard (NU5D) wrote:
> On our local EDACS PST clear voice audio from the switch receives ALC and
> minor compression before going to the dispatch consoles or being repeated.
> This helps maintain reasonably constant loudness to the dispatcher's
> headsets, and makes for more uniform syste
Ken Arck wrote:
> At 09:27 PM 4/13/2005 -0500, you wrote:
>
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>>I think that is what I was getting to as well, if there was a way to limit
>>the incoming audio, or like it was put, hope the other users lets the louder
>>ones know they are too loud. As for the system, the audio levels are set
>
If your loud user "clips at 6 Khz deviation no mater what" then you have
your transmiter deviation set at 6 Khz turn it down to 4.5 or 5Khz max.
This is the max limit. Then have someone talk on the repeater or while
there is a conversation going on, use a radio at the site and switch
between input
D]>
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Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Audio limiting on incoming signals
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> Mathew Quaife wrote:
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> >The one user is going to bring his radio by and see just what it is doing
> >audio wise, it might be set to high to begin with, and
Mathew Quaife wrote:
>The one user is going to bring his radio by and see just what it is doing
>audio wise, it might be set to high to begin with, and with him having a
>loud voice, might be just over doing it all.
>
While you *may* find the users radio to be "too wide" (too much
deviation),
Lemme get the manuals out and see what the specs are. Ssb
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From: Kevin Custer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
How much exactly is the amount of "minor comprerssion", 2 to 1 or more?
Kevin
[Steve Bosshard (NU5D)]
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From: Kevin Custer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 11:08 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Audio limiting on incoming signals
Ken Arck wrote:
>At 11:18 PM 4/13/2005 -0400, you wrote:
>
>You can
Steve Bosshard (NU5D) wrote:
>On our local EDACS PST clear voice audio from the switch receives ALC and
>minor compression before going to the dispatch consoles or being repeated.
>
How much exactly is the amount of "minor comprerssion", 2 to 1 or more?
Kevin
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Ken Arck wrote:
>At 11:18 PM 4/13/2005 -0400, you wrote:
>
>You can have a repeater with no limiting and a user that is severely
>clipped and have a total deviation of only 3.5 kilohertz will sound
>considerably louder than a user running 5 kilohertz deviation not being
>clipped.
>
><---No argu
At 10:05 PM 4/13/2005, Eric Lemmon wrote:
>Dave,
>
>I should have known that my gambit would raise some eyebrows! In truth, my
>phrase "working on" is a euphemism for the vague period between
>"thinking about
>concepts" and "experimenting with.hardware." I know all too well that few
>things a
z,
19 channel, 3 site simulcast system.
Ssb
-Original Message-
From: Ken Arck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 10:32 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Audio limiting on incoming signals
[Steve Bosshard (NU5D)]
At 11:18 PM 4/13/2005 -0400, you wrote:
You can have a repeater with no limiting and a user that is severely
clipped and have a total deviation of only 3.5 kilohertz will sound
considerably louder than a user running 5 kilohertz deviation not being
clipped.
<---No argument about this at all, K
Ken Arck wrote:
It is not a matter of "perceived" deviation nor is it a matter of incoming
levels. It is not because some users might be using an Icom and others are
using a Kenwood.
Since the deviation levels mentioned were actually measured, it is obvious
that the transmitter is being
Dave,
I should have known that my gambit would raise some eyebrows! In truth, my
phrase "working on" is a euphemism for the vague period between "thinking about
concepts" and "experimenting with.hardware." I know all too well that few
things are more irritating to repeater users than a functio
At 09:27 PM 4/13/2005 -0500, you wrote:
>I think that is what I was getting to as well, if there was a way to limit
>the incoming audio, or like it was put, hope the other users lets the louder
>ones know they are too loud. As for the system, the audio levels are set
>just right for about 95% of
Eric Lemmon wrote:
>I am working on an audio monitor that will interject the voice warning
>"average modulation too high" when it
>detects that overdeviation of the input signal is present. It is not a simple
>project!
>
The first problem (and maybe most difficult to handle) is evaluating a
Dave VanHorn wrote:
I know I could use one of a number of "soft AGC" circuits to control the
incoming audio before it is repeated, but that would not prompt the
offending users to mend their ways. I am working on an audio monitor that
will interject the voice warning "average modu
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From: Dave VanHorn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 8:56 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Audio limiting on incoming signals
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>I know I could use one of a number of "soft AGC" circuits to control the
>incom
>
>I know I could use one of a number of "soft AGC" circuits to control the
>incoming audio before it is repeated, but that would not prompt the
>offending users to mend their ways. I am working on an audio monitor that
>will interject the voice warning "average modulation too high" when it
>de
Mathew,
This is a common problem, especially when users with multiband/multimode
radios use them on FM repeaters, not realizing that they are
overdeviating. I guess it's a mixed blessing that some kind and gentle
listeners will advise a repeater user that his/her signal is "loud and
clear" when
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 8:07 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Audio limiting on incoming signals
w9mwq wrote:
>I have set the deviation level of the repeater to 4.5 Khz, which for
>most users is excellent, however I have a few users whom no ma
At 07:52 PM 4/13/2005 -0500, you wrote:
>The repeater is made up of a Maggoire HiPro transmitter, GE Mastr Pro ER41
>receiver, Cat-1000 contoller. I am taking audio from the high side of the
>volume control in the ER41. I've turned up the transmitter to 4.5 Khz and
>the Cat-1000 tx level at rig
w9mwq wrote:
>I have set the deviation level of the repeater to 4.5 Khz, which for
>most users is excellent, however I have a few users whom no matter
>what radio they use, alwys clips well over 6 Khz wide. Is there a way
>to limit this?
>
What exactly are you wanting to limit? The level
tones just
fine. As for bypassing anything, no that I have not done, all is just as it
was.
Mathew
-Original Message-
From: Ken Arck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 7:30 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Audio limiti
At 05:30 PM 4/13/2005 -0700, you wrote:
>If so, either it's not working correctly or you haven't set up your audio
>levels correctly.
<---Uhhh. make that if NOT :-)
Ken
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President and CTO - Arcom Communications
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At 11:42 PM 4/13/2005 -, you wrote:
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>I have set the deviation level of the repeater to 4.5 Khz, which for
>most users is excellent, however I have a few users whom no matter
>what radio they use, alwys clips well over 6 Khz wide. Is there a way
>to limit this? When these users come in
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