RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna on the side of a water tower

2007-02-01 Thread Gary Schafer
about it. Regards Gary K4FMX _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of allan crites Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 12:39 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna on the side of a water tower

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna on the side of a water tower

2007-01-31 Thread allan crites
I'd suggest you consider the water tank as a reflector of the type called Gregorian after James Gregory of England who devised it about 1660, and the operation of which is described in the book Antennas for all applications by John Kraus 3rd edition on pp. 680-684. Illumination of the

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna on the side of a water tower

2007-01-30 Thread Gary
_ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave VanHorn Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 4:26 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna on the side of a water tower --- In Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna on the side of a water tower

2007-01-30 Thread Jim B.
skipp025 wrote: Which reminds me that I should have mentioned the available scan of club using a series of yagi antennas around a wide tower to obtain a quasi omni pattern. You can probably find the info on the repeater builder antenna page along with the mounting offset paper I

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna on the side of a water tower

2007-01-30 Thread Jim B.
Dave VanHorn wrote: I would suggest 1/2 wave away from the surrounding metal as a minimum, but try and get as far away as you can. Yes, but what's bugging me is that I'm sure there are BAD distances, especially up close within 1-2 wavelengths Normally for side-mounting on a normal

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna on the side of a water tower

2007-01-29 Thread Jim B.
Laryn Lohman wrote: Now that I think about it, with all the wireless stuff (cell antennas) that I have seen mounted around a water tower single legs (the modern towers), on buildings at each face, etc. , I bet there is info out there that you can tailor for your needs using the phased

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna on the side of a water tower.

2007-01-29 Thread gervais fillion
hummm goggle dont find this antenna,,, Original Message Follows From: Dave VanHorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna on the side of a water tower. Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 20:30:27 -

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna on the side of a water tower

2007-01-28 Thread k1ike_mail
-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 3:17 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna on the side of a water tower snip One of the carriers does something similar. They put panel antennas

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna on the side of a water tower

2007-01-27 Thread Barry C'
Dave VanHorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone point me to something that will show me the antenna pattern for a VHF and UHF antenna mounted on the side of a water tank at different distances from the tank? I've been offered a site, but I can't have top mount, I

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna on the side of a water tower

2007-01-27 Thread allan crites
Skipp, I sure would appreciate your sending to me the PDF file scan of the Sinclair paper. Thanks, 73, Allan Crites wa9zzu skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Depends a lot on the size of the water tank, then the type of antenna and its mounted distance from the tank. Not an easy

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna on the side of a water tower

2007-01-27 Thread Roger White
, 2007 12:45 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna on the side of a water tower I don't think you are going to be able to model it to your satisfaction with any software you or I could afford. Perhaps you need to adopt an empirical approach, put up an antenna and see what you get. Drive

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna on the side of a water tower

2007-01-27 Thread N8BQN
Somehow I recollect that describing the 'extremely healty' Clarkston machine (near Detroit) ~ 3 TX yagis a single RX stik atop... Roger White wrote: This idea was in a ham magazine years ago, to solve a similar problem. It was on a very large tower, with a large face. This particular

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna on the side of a water tower

2007-01-27 Thread Joe
I remember that article and I was going to do something similar on a wide faced tower that I was trying to get space on. It was a CATV head-end tower that was full of log periodic antennas, the only available height was from 125 feet to the bottom. I almost got the project started when the

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna on the side of a water tower

2007-01-27 Thread Eric Lemmon
. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 3:17 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna on the side of a water tower snip One

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna on the side of a water tower

2007-01-27 Thread no6b
At 1/27/2007 10:45, you wrote: I don't think you are going to be able to model it to your satisfaction with any software you or I could afford. Perhaps you need to adopt an empirical approach, put up an antenna and see what you get. Drive test it, take field strength readings, plot and graph the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna on the side of a water tower

2007-01-26 Thread Mike Morris
It's also at the repeater-builder web site on the antenna systems page, or directly at http://www.repeater-builder.com/antenna/antenna-mounting-guidelines.pdf Mike WA6ILQ At 03:11 PM 01/26/07, you wrote: Depends a lot on the size of the water tank, then the type of antenna and its mounted