RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Duplexer weirdness

2006-02-11 Thread Jeff DePolo
Yes but that sounds sort of risky in that the lowest noise figure of an LNA is not necessarily achieved at optimum match. Agreed, and most are tuned for lowest NF and not necessarily maximum gain nor ideal match. My previous comments relating to LNAs may also apply to the JFET mixers

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Duplexer weirdness

2006-02-10 Thread Mike Morris
At 09:33 AM 2/9/06, you wrote: Sounds like a nice piece of test equipment to have around: a 50 dB non-directional coupler. Have two, both hamfest items. One is celwave, and the other is a bird slug. Spec on the bird slug is -50 at 25-1000 MHz. Seems to be a pretty rare slug. Kevin proved

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Duplexer weirdness

2006-02-10 Thread Bob Dengler
At 2/9/2006 09:14 AM, you wrote: Well, I'm going to go out on a limb disagree with Jeff, perhaps for the first time ever. That's OK, we'll still let you hang around our tent and drink our beer at Dayton :-) Are you going again this year Bob?. Not this year unfortunately; maybe '07.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Duplexer weirdness

2006-02-09 Thread Jeff DePolo WN3A
Well, I'm going to go out on a limb disagree with Jeff, perhaps for the first time ever. That's OK, we'll still let you hang around our tent and drink our beer at Dayton :-) Are you going again this year Bob?. My conclusion is that if whatever you're using to measure amplitude is

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Duplexer weirdness

2006-02-09 Thread Jeff DePolo WN3A
I thought consistent and optimum performance were pretty much the same animal? Only under lab conditions :-) Using a vague definition, I'm thinking consistent = best operation over the long term, optimum = best short-term. I've accidentally made a 75 watt Micor UHF PA crank out 200 watts

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Duplexer weirdness

2006-02-09 Thread Jeff DePolo WN3A
So, if you lack test equipment and have no choice but to use high- level signals for tuning the pass, you should still be tuning for minimum reflected power. So bird inbetween TX and cans, tuning on a source like an HT? Yes. To take it one step further, a 6 dB pad (with suitable power

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Duplexer weirdness

2006-02-08 Thread no6b
At 2/8/2006 10:38, you wrote: I'll take most of what you said as being sarcastic, but your point is taken. I guess so, just pointing out the apparent absurdity. If so, great, you're done. If not, fix it. In the end though, the function of the pass adjustments is simply to transfer energy