RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Receiver Tuning

2006-03-10 Thread Paul Finch
PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 11:43 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Receiver Tuning I used the Sinadder when it first came out ... once my ear had learned what to listen for, I quit using the it. Neil

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Receiver Tuning

2006-03-09 Thread n . mckie
I used the Sinadder when it first came out ... once my ear had learned what to listen for, I quit using the it. Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Receiver Tuning Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 02

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Receiver Tuning

2006-03-09 Thread Dan KC2BEZ
Try item# 7598024261 Dan On 3/9/06, Mike Perryman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Got an item number.. Hae Dong turned up nothing.. > mike > > -Original Message- > From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave VanHorn > Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Receiver Tuning

2006-03-09 Thread Mike Perryman
Got an item number.. Hae Dong turned up nothing.. mike -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave VanHorn Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 9:12 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Receiver Tuning

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Receiver Tuning

2006-03-06 Thread Bob M.
I checked the manual for my HP 334A Distortion analyzer. The notch filter in that unit seems to be capable of 80dB, and the bandwidth is quite narrow, under 0.01%. This unit just removes the fundamental and measures whatever is left. I found several good articles and explanations of SINAD measurem

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Receiver Tuning

2006-03-06 Thread Bob Dengler
At 3/6/2006 01:52 PM, you wrote: >Wouldn't the SINAD be the distance between the 1kHz tone "Spike" and >the noise "Grass"? I assume you mean distance in amplitude. Not quite. I think the noise would have to be summed over all frequencies, including any harmonics of the 1 kHz that get generated

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Receiver Tuning

2006-03-06 Thread Bob M.
I'd think it might, but the AC voltmeter is measuring the average (or RMS-calibrated) signal that remains after the 1kHz tone has been removed. I suppose it only has to be attenuated by at least 12dB (probably more) so it doesn't contribute to the rest of the signal. But if the 1kHz tone level is m

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Receiver Tuning

2006-03-06 Thread DCFluX
Wouldn't the SINAD be the distance between the 1kHz tone "Spike" and the noise "Grass"? On 3/6/06, Bob Dengler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 3/6/2006 09:38 AM, you wrote: > > >Ok, I wasn't thinking in this direction before, but I do have an audio > >band spectrum analyzer handy. > > > >Question

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Receiver Tuning

2006-03-06 Thread Bob Dengler
At 3/6/2006 09:38 AM, you wrote: >Ok, I wasn't thinking in this direction before, but I do have an audio >band spectrum analyzer handy. > >Question is, how can I translate this to a Sinad measurement? I've been trying to figure this out too, as I've been working on an audio spectrum analyzer pro

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Receiver Tuning

2006-03-06 Thread Bob M.
I recall reading somewhere that the SINAD measurement is the residual signal after the 1kHz tone has been filtered out. Assuming you have a full-quieting input signal with 3kHz deviation and you've notched that out, there snould be nothing left to measure. As the signal gets noisier, the harmonics

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Receiver Tuning

2006-03-04 Thread Curt Seaton
Hello to the list. A very good and super inexpensive Sinad meter can be an old Heathkit audio distortion meter. Any distortion meter will work, but the old Heathkit units are around and are super cheap. Simply connect across the loudspeaker and with a strong signal into the radio to be teste

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Receiver Tuning

2006-03-04 Thread Chuck Kelsey
I'm willing to guess that if you built one, someone here on this list could help you calibrate it against their service monitor. Chuck WB2EDV > >I wouldn't mind building a sinadder, but I don't know how I'd >calibrate it. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the we