Re: [Repeater-Builder] DTMF Decoder

2008-03-26 Thread Nate Duehr
On Mar 25, 2008, at 4:33 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still don't understand why the other program I ran on the same machine with the same sound card and the same connections had no problem decoding. That's easy. Better written software. -- Nate Duehr, WY0X [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic, trying not to re-invent the wheel...

2008-03-26 Thread Nate Duehr
On Mar 25, 2008, at 4:28 PM, Mike Morris WA6ILQ wrote: (card 1 face) Operating Instructions using preprogrammed memory channels: 1. Turn on radio, adjust volume and squelch Step 1... Turn off odd-ball rig you've never seen before, and pull the one you're used to using out of your go kit.

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic, trying not to re-invent the wheel...

2008-03-26 Thread Ron Wright
From my 15+ years experience with emergency comm here 90% of those who show up to help NEVER come to meetings. How you going to put them in a training class? You are not. Also I can train Hams on a radio right down to the nitty griddy details and 2 years later when they come in for a real

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] DTMF Decoder

2008-03-26 Thread Ron Wright
I have never played with a computer sound card other than the typical plug it in and let the various program drivers interface to it. I bet the sound card is a simple ADC and software looks at the wave form using a look up table that compares what is received and reacts. DTMF is much more

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic, trying not to re-invent the wheel...

2008-03-26 Thread Thomas Oliver
Radios at emergency opperating positions that will be used by Ham people in an emergency need to be commercial radios that are idiot proof. We use Motorola GM 300's with headsets at some locations (com centers) mobile and fixed, and standard mic at others (fire departments). That way the

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic, trying not to re-invent the wheel...

2008-03-26 Thread Bob M.
Maybe you haven't been to a test session lately. Since the FCC et al lowered the standards and did away with Morse Code entirely, the quality of the new operators is a lot lower than you might want to acknowledge. Sure, the guys who have been hams since the 1970s probably know which end of a tube

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic, trying not to re-invent the wheel...

2008-03-26 Thread Steve
Sorry to add my 3 cents worth. But the best way to deal with this problem or any emergency problem is routine monthly training. The radios your key people use during an emergency should be in the same category as their own radios. We use icom 2820's through our whole ARES/RACES system with no

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic, trying not to re-invent the wheel...

2008-03-26 Thread no6b
At 3/26/2008 06:29, you wrote: Radios at emergency opperating positions that will be used by Ham people in an emergency need to be commercial radios that are idiot proof. Sounds like a good idea on the surface, but the lack of VFO mode IMO severely limits its usefulness in an emergency. What

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic, trying not to re-invent the wheel...

2008-03-26 Thread Chuck Kelsey
I agree with Ron. You'll never get them trained. They solved the problem in our County HazMat truck by installing commercial two-way radios programmed to the area repeaters. You simply dial to the proper channel and the frequency and PL is programmed in and can't be messed up. Chuck WB2EDV

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic, trying not to re-invent the wheel...

2008-03-26 Thread Ron Wright
Having the same rig for all would be nice. In an EOC this is possible. However, the value of Ham Radio to a community is the Hams have a supply of radios they bought, maintain and learn to use. Can one see the vast cost if say 50 Hams/people had to be supplied equipment at gov expense. Would

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic, trying not to re-invent the wheel...

2008-03-26 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Yep. I've been a ham for a fairly long time (mid 70's). I usually have to dig out the manual to program my own rigs every time I want to change something. I can't imagine trying to remember how to program someone else's radio. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Ron Wright

[Repeater-Builder] FS: 80 Feet Andrews VXL7-50 1-5/8

2008-03-26 Thread Tedd Doda
Hi Guys: Does anyone in Ontario need about 80 feet of Andrews VXL7-50 Heliax? I have 2x L7TDF (7/16 DIN female) connectors as well. I know it's a short run of such a large cable, but I need to move this out (taking up too much room!). I might have some N female connectors as well. Please reply

[Repeater-Builder] MASTR-III Programming Software

2008-03-26 Thread Matt
Anyone know where to find the programming software for a MASTR-IIe or a MASTR-III?

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic, trying not to re-invent the wheel...

2008-03-26 Thread Nate Duehr
Chuck Kelsey wrote: I agree with Ron. You'll never get them trained. Sounds like underwater basket-weaving would be more productive. Nate WY0X

Re: [Repeater-Builder] DTMF Decoder

2008-03-26 Thread Nate Duehr
Ron Wright wrote: Dedicated circuits and ICs do a much better job. Disagree, but it's only semantics. We've got some DSP code here at work that'll kick an MT8800's ass any day of the week, upside-down, and sideways. And it'll do it on 336 phone lines AT THE SAME TIME. Last I checked, it

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic, trying not to re-invent the wheel...

2008-03-26 Thread Kris Kirby
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008, Ron Wright wrote: From my 15+ years experience with emergency comm here 90% of those who show up to help NEVER come to meetings. How you going to put them in a training class? You are not. Simple: Ban them from participating in any events unless they are willing at

Re: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic, trying not to re-invent the wheel...

2008-03-26 Thread Ron Wright
Kris, Sure ban them. You got hundreds of trees and telephone poles down, routes blocked for emergency vehicles, no power or water and you need comm to coordinate things and one is going to say have you attended a class??? I don't think so. Some don't take the time to attend meetings which

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] DTMF Decoder

2008-03-26 Thread Ron Wright
Nate, DSP is ICs and software. Of course anyone spending the high money to replace an 8880 is somewhat in the dark for most applications. DSP is much more suitable and cost effective in more difficult things than DTMF decoding and encoding. 73, ron, n9ee/r From: Nate Duehr [EMAIL

RE: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic, trying not to re-invent the wheel...

2008-03-26 Thread Paul Plack
Pardon me if this is blunt, but are these meetings really efficient for training? Or, have they developed a reputation as a monthly nerds night out for guys who like wearing pocketed orange vests in public, and a waste of time for everyone else? If people can't or won't make room in their lives

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 24 vdc to 12 vdc

2008-03-26 Thread Dave Gomberg
At 09:56 3/25/2008, Steve S. Bosshard (NU5D) wrote: Anyhow, without a fuse, the reverse protection diode or transorb in the radio tries to short and shunt the reverse current from the radio. So you are saying it is in parallel (and reverse direction), not series (in forward direction)? --

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 24 vdc to 12 vdc

2008-03-26 Thread Dave Gomberg
At 09:56 3/25/2008, Steve S. Bosshard (NU5D) wrote: Anyhow, without a fuse, the reverse protection diode or transorb in the radio tries to short and shunt the reverse current from the radio. So you are saying it is in parallel (and reverse direction), not series (in forward direction)? --

[Repeater-Builder] FS: Aerotek/IFR Systems 1200

2008-03-26 Thread Paul E. Robichaux
For sale: K5EYP (SK)'s Aerotek/IFR Systems 1200. Includes instruction manual. Factory calibrated in April 2007, not used since. $2750 + shipping (+ 3% if you pay via PayPal). Contact me offlist if you have questions. Please note that this is not the S model and doesn't include a spectrum

[Repeater-Builder] MASTR-II ID

2008-03-26 Thread Paul E. Robichaux
My dad, K5EYP, bought a MASTR-II of some kind. He was running it as our local ARES repeater at 145.150, driven by (I think) a CAT-1000. I'm trying to figure out what specific components vintage this particular MASTR-II is, what it's worth, and the best way to sell it. Any suggestions would be

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using Alinco DR-605 Dual Band Mobiles for Repeater

2008-03-26 Thread briguy1q2w
In this case, I would guess that most ALL of the repeaters being sold on eBay are not legal for GMRS. How do most people get one on the air for a reasonable expense without paying a grand or more? Thank You! Brian/WB2JIX --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Paul Finch [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna: what if???

2008-03-26 Thread a_davo
Gain ,gain, and more gain. Even if you go wrong, you'll learn something for sure. Cutting phasing harnesses is in itself , a fine art. Is this 224-a cut for commercial VHF. See: www.juicybrucy.com/Analyzer.xls If you are going to use this for Amateur freqs ,you may be fighting mismatch in those

[Repeater-Builder] 24 vdc to 12 vdc smoke

2008-03-26 Thread Steve S. Bosshard (NU5D)
The protection diode is typically across the power leads to the radio being protected (in parallel) , and not in series wit the radio because of both the forward drop of a silicon diode (around 0.7 V depending on the characteristics of the diode) , and the current carrying capability of the

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic, trying not to re-invent the wheel...

2008-03-26 Thread no6b
At 3/26/2008 08:14, you wrote: Maybe you haven't been to a test session lately. Since the FCC et al lowered the standards and did away with Morse Code entirely, the quality of the new operators is a lot lower than you might want to acknowledge. Sure, the guys who have been hams since the 1970s

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic, trying not to re-invent the wheel...

2008-03-26 Thread michaelhq54
Ya, you CAN program 100 or more repeaters into most current commercial rigs, and alpha tag them as well. Michael -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 19:34:57 To:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic, trying not to

Re: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic, trying not to re-invent the wheel...

2008-03-26 Thread no6b
At 3/26/2008 16:03, you wrote: Kris, Sure ban them. You got hundreds of trees and telephone poles down, routes blocked for emergency vehicles, no power or water and you need comm to coordinate things and one is going to say have you attended a class??? I don't think so. Maybe EmComm is

[Repeater-Builder] RLC-DSP404 Controller, anyone using one, pro's and con's please

2008-03-26 Thread n9lv
I am looking at replacing the Cat1000B controller on our repeater system, and am looking at the RLC-DSP404 controller to replace it. Anyone using one? How well is it functioning, any problems, issues that I should know about. Mathew

RE: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic, trying not to re-invent the wheel...

2008-03-26 Thread no6b
At 3/26/2008 16:54, you wrote: Pardon me if this is blunt, but are these meetings really efficient for training? Or, have they developed a reputation as a monthly nerds night out for guys who like wearing pocketed orange vests in public, and a waste of time for everyone else? If people can't

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic, trying not to re-invent the wheel...

2008-03-26 Thread no6b
OK, that will work. Then again, many amateur transceivers have a simpleton mode that only allows volume, squelch memory channel adjustment. Might be a cheaper more flexible solution since the radio can still be easily reprogrammed by anyone who does know the radio. Bob NO6B At 3/26/2008

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using Alinco DR-605 Dual Band Mobiles for Repeater

2008-03-26 Thread George Henry
A lot of them are Moto R1225's, CDM1250's, older R100's, GM300's , GE MASTR II's, etc. All legal. - Original Message - From: briguy1q2w [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 7:21 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using Alinco DR-605

[Repeater-Builder] Re: DTMF Decoder

2008-03-26 Thread tony dinkel
I am trying to figure out whether I should throw away my old WE 247B KTU touch tone decoder. Anybody want it? Museum maybe? Put some pull ups on it and it should not be too hard to do a 12 line to hex converter, in software. You can't beat the old pot cores and precision caps for

[Repeater-Builder] GM300/M120 repeater audio?

2008-03-26 Thread tyler838
- I'm kinda new to this so here it goes - I have a gm300(tx) linked to m120(rx) as a repeater using a i20r controller. I would like to have audio from the internal speaker on the rx side of the repeater. heres what i have tried: I have local sound(button beeps and power