[Repeater-Builder] re: RE: RE: duplexer retuning

2005-04-24 Thread doug
well, we are going to try this method: first, we are going to try the unit as is and pay close attention to rx sensitivity and swr. second, we'll retune the notches (this was recommended by mary brown @ tx/rx) third, they go back in a box for a trip back to mama (tx/rx) i'll keep

Re: [Repeater-Builder] re: RE: RE: duplexer retuning

2005-04-24 Thread Dave VanHorn
third, they go back in a box for a trip back to mama (tx/rx) Nobody around with a spectrum analyzer or service monitor? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for alignment data for TPL HMS

2005-04-24 Thread skipp025
There are 3 TPL Manuals on my sonic page, one is for the low band version, another VHF High-band and the last UHF. www.radiowrench.com/sonic Requires the free Adobe PDF File Reader if you don't already have it installed. Enjoy, skipp skipp025 at yahoo.com nj902 wrote: Before I

[Repeater-Builder] Cushman Radio Communications Test Set

2005-04-24 Thread Doug
I have picked up one of these and the front Designation is obscured. On the back serial number sticker, it refers to it as a model 4000B M02. The unit is equipped with a Model 408 Universal Encoder. Some of the keys on this unit have lost their return spring. So far that is all I have found

Re: [Repeater-Builder] re: RE: RE: duplexer retuning

2005-04-24 Thread albemarle7
milguy Were rootin' for ya'let us know how you do because we have a Wacom 641 that is also 15 khz off and we plan to walk them in.My analyzer is on its way back to IFR. Good luck Gary Katona K2UQ Trenton, NJ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go

[Repeater-Builder] Motorola Micors

2005-04-24 Thread Don Pomplun
We have a bunch of Motorola Micor VHF radios just gathering dust. All were taken out of railroad service, so they operate in the 160 MHz range. So far I haven't pulled them out to see how clean they are. I'm first interested in opinions on their general value. This group seems like a good

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Duplexer Retuning

2005-04-24 Thread Eric Lemmon
Doug, It is a characteristic of BpBr (bandpass/bandreject) duplexers that the pass function is very broad while the reject notch is extremely sharp. While it is true that a 15 kHz shift will probably not be noticed on the pass, it *might* be significant on the notch. It takes a network

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Micors

2005-04-24 Thread Neil McKie
Somewhat depends on if you are going to build a repeater - or - feel the need to have a bunch of spare parts handy. Neil - WA6KLA Don Pomplun wrote: We have a bunch of Motorola Micor VHF radios just gathering dust. All were taken out of railroad service, so they operate in the 160

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Micors

2005-04-24 Thread Chuck Kelsey
My personal opinion is that you may have trouble giving them away. I likely wouldn't take one if they were free, maybe others would. But then all my repeaters are either UHF or on 6. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Don Pomplun To:

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Micors

2005-04-24 Thread video_022000
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Don Pomplun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have a bunch of Motorola Micor VHF radios just gathering dust. All were taken out of railroad service, so they operate in the 160 MHz range. So far I haven't pulled them out to see how clean they are. I'm

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Micors

2005-04-24 Thread Kevin Custer
Don Pomplun wrote: We have a bunch of Motorola Micor VHF radios just gathering dust. All were taken out of railroad service, so they operate in the 160 MHz range. So far I haven't pulled them out to see how clean they are. I'm first interested in opinions on their general value. This group

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for alignment data for TPL HMS

2005-04-24 Thread Captainlance
SKIPP: I've been trying to email you for 4 weeks, with no response... is there a problem with your email? Lance Alfieri - Original Message - From: skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 11:26 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re:

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for alignment data for TPL HMS

2005-04-24 Thread nj902
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are 3 TPL Manuals on my sonic page... _ skipp, Thanks for the link to your page. I found the three TPL files. This particular amp is a big one - rack mounted

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for alignment data for TPL HMS

2005-04-24 Thread Neil McKie
Of course you know the history of where the name TPL came from ... don't you? Neil - WA6KLA nj902 wrote: --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are 3 TPL Manuals on my sonic page... _ skipp,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for alignment data for TPL HMS

2005-04-24 Thread Ken Arck
At 03:16 PM 4/24/2005 -0700, you wrote: Of course you know the history of where the name TPL came from ... don't you? ---Ooooh, I do, I do! (don't forget I worked for the guy for a year or so) Ken -- President and

Re: [Repeater-Builder] TPL (toilet paper line)

2005-04-24 Thread Kevin Custer
Neil McKie wrote: Of course you know the history of where the name TPL came from ... don't you? Ripped from the internet: To compete with the MOTRAC, GE introduced what many consider to be the greatest flop in two-way radio history, the GE Transistorized Progress Line or TPL. GE

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for alignment data for TPLHMS

2005-04-24 Thread Neil McKie
Oh yes ... you certainly do ... Neil Ken Arck wrote: At 03:16 PM 4/24/2005 -0700, you wrote: Of course you know the history of where the name TPL came from ... don't you? ---Ooooh, I do, I do! (don't forget I worked for the guy for a year or so) Ken

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for alignment data for TPLHMS

2005-04-24 Thread Ken Arck
At 03:26 PM 4/24/2005 -0700, you wrote: Oh yes ... you certainly do ... ---Whatever happened to him anyway? I lost track of him a few years after he was CE at the company in Torrance I worked for (this was after he left Pace). Is he even alive these days? Ken

Re: [Repeater-Builder] TPL (toilet paper line)

2005-04-24 Thread Neil McKie
Actually not. The TPL line of RF Power Amplifiers came from the initials of the guy who started TPL Communications 30 some odd years ago, Thomas P. Litty. I think his ham call was K6RAD (Ken, please correct me if I am wrong.) The original TPL is the earlier General Electric

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for alignment data forTPLHMS

2005-04-24 Thread Neil McKie
I just looked him up on www.qrz.com not there. There is a Litty who was born in 1923 ... could be Tom's father? Lives in Paradise, California. Tom was younger than me ... perhaps not by much but younger still. I think Tom was the first person to realize a tall camper on the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] TPL (toilet paper line)

2005-04-24 Thread Ken Arck
At 03:36 PM 4/24/2005 -0700, you wrote: The TPL line of RF Power Amplifiers came from the initials of the guy who started TPL Communications 30 some odd years ago, Thomas P. Litty. ---Actually, wasn't his last name spelled Liddy? I think his ham call was K6RAD (Ken, please correct me

Re: [Repeater-Builder] TPL (toilet paper line)

2005-04-24 Thread Kevin Custer
Neil McKie wrote: The original TPL is the earlier General Electric 2-way product referred to below ... and the first use, as I remember, of the GE BF-10/BF10A key. Hope this is at least partially used as cannon fodder for the Repeater-Builder web site ... somehow ... ;) It's

Re: [Repeater-Builder] TPL (toilet paper line)

2005-04-24 Thread Neil McKie
Remember Pace? Vaguely ... think that was the radio that had the built-in microphonic modulator ... yelling at the radio produced recoverable audio at the receiver. Knowing my 'collection' here I might have a Pace radio - if I find it, I'll ship it to you. Then you can frame it and

Re: [Repeater-Builder] TPL (toilet paper line)

2005-04-24 Thread Ken Arck
Remember Pace? Vaguely ... think that was the radio that had the built-in microphonic modulator ... yelling at the radio produced recoverable audio at the receiver. ---Hahahaa, yep that's the one! Man, you ARE an old fart, aren't ya? But in all fairness, it was only one cheap line they

Re: [Repeater-Builder] TPL (toilet paper line)

2005-04-24 Thread Neil McKie
Kevin ... I looked at the site URL'd below ... The service shop bench picture near the bottom ... I remember those days except we didn't have the Motorola Station Monitor. We used either a Gertsch FM-6 (at the GE Shop) or the Motorola equivalent T-1020 version of the Gertsch

Re: [Repeater-Builder] TPL (toilet paper line)

2005-04-24 Thread Neil McKie
I couldn't let this one go by ... Ken Arck wrote: Remember Pace? Vaguely ... think that was the radio that had the built-in microphonic modulator ... yelling at the radio produced recoverable audio at the receiver. ---Hahahaa, yep that's the one! Man, you ARE an old fart,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Micors

2005-04-24 Thread Mark Holman
ANY Lobanders in that group ? like 45 thru 50 Mhz. ? something is up in the air right now being asked indirectly to help out when I have very little time right now seems kinda odd ? for me that is. Mark Holman[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.ab8ru.org Life Member A.R.R.L. - Original

[Repeater-Builder] Antenna Specialists Antenna

2005-04-24 Thread kg4ogn
Hello All, I just tore down a tower for someone and was given an antenna that was sitting in their garage, did not get any specs on it. The label is pretty much disintegrating but it says: Antenna Specialists, Made in Ohio USA, Model Number ASPF 701. If anyone is familiar with this antenna I

RE: [Repeater-Builder] TPL (toilet paper line)

2005-04-24 Thread Paul Finch
Neil, I remember them well! Glad we did not have many of them. Paul -Original Message-From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Kevin CusterSent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 5:26 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Specialists Antenna

2005-04-24 Thread Mark Holman
web site is http://www.antenna.com/ I imagine that they may have someone there who would know. Mark Holman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ab8ru.org Life Member A.R.R.L. - Original Message - From: kg4ogn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Specialists Antenna

2005-04-24 Thread Ken Arck
At 08:31 PM 4/24/2005 -0400, you wrote: Hello All, I just tore down a tower for someone and was given an antenna that was sitting in their garage, did not get any specs on it. The label is pretty much disintegrating but it says: Antenna Specialists, Made in Ohio USA, Model Number ASPF 701.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] TPL (toilet paper line)

2005-04-24 Thread Mark Holman
Dawg gone Ken are'nt you a AARP member yet ? now I can get away ABT saying that just turned 50 last week ( snicker ! ) Mark Holman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ab8ru.org Life Member A.R.R.L. - Original Message - From: Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Specialists Antenna

2005-04-24 Thread Mark Holman
Mark Holman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ab8ru.org Life Member A.R.R.L. - Original Message - From: kg4ogn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 8:09 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Specialists Antenna Hello All, I

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Specialists Antenna

2005-04-24 Thread Richard
Several hits on Google if you plug in the model number Richard, N7TGB -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of kg4ogn Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 5:09 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Specialists Antenna

2005-04-24 Thread Richard D. Reese
Mark; ASP / Antenna Specialist was purchased by Andrew and the antenna is still a production model. I have used several in amateur as well as commercial service. The specifications sheet is available at : http://www.wa8dbw.ifip.com/ASPD-701.pdf 73 Richard D. Reese

RE: [Repeater-Builder] TPL (toilet paper line)

2005-04-24 Thread Paul Finch
Neil, I also had one of the TEK-5 Metering panels where I worked. I used one of the portable test sets before that. I remember some of that stuff in that photo but my first service monitor was a CE-2, graduated from there to a CE-3 then to a CE-6 and finally a CE-50. I have a Bird 43 with a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Specialists Antenna

2005-04-24 Thread Eric Lemmon
Alexander, The ASPF-701 is listed in the Decibel Products catalog as a Base Commander omni fiberglass antenna for 460-470 MHz, with 8.5 dBd gain and a 10 MHz bandwidth. It's a current model that used to be sold under the Antenna Specialists label. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY Hello All, I

Re: [Repeater-Builder] TPL (toilet paper line)

2005-04-24 Thread Q
I had the same experience with a Quintron 75mhz transmitter,if you yelled into the ovened crystal area,you could be clearly heard. Too bad I was cursing out the boss who was listening 60 miles away at the other end as we were setting levels. I sure do miss that job! We were also a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] TPL (toilet paper line)

2005-04-24 Thread Thomas Oliver
Pyramid SVR 200 vehicular repeaters are the same or worse. I set some up to work with maratrac radios and when I keyed the svr 200 with no audio input or pl encode the deviation of the dead carier alone was 400 hz white noise these things were so microphonic I could have tied a string and can to

Re: [Repeater-Builder] TPL (toilet paper line)

2005-04-24 Thread Neil McKie
... finally ... Neil Mark Holman wrote: Dawg gone Ken are'nt you a AARP member yet ? now I can get away ABT saying that just turned 50 last week ( snicker ! ) Mark Holman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ab8ru.org Life Member A.R.R.L. - Original Message - From: