Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fiberglass antenna protective coating?

2006-03-24 Thread Ellen Engle
In early versions the radials were installed at a 90 degree angle from the
mast.  Later versions angled them down at about 45 degrees from the mast.
In all cases they were secured with a band clamp and most installers simply
left them off.  The antenna will work just fine without them.

IIRC VHF were probably 18 and UHF were 6 long

Milt
N3LTQ

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 Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Thanks for your emails  information on Fiberglass antenna protective
coating(s)?

 I have a Phelps-Dodge VHF antenna about 21'10 long.

 Tell me about the three radials at the bottom.
 For the 2 meter band, what should the length be?

 The NCG GP-6 antennas use about 19.5 long radials.

 Should the radials be straight, like the GP-6, or angled down some
degree(s)?

 What should the length of the radials be, for a UHF band antenna?

 73's,
 Jim   Kh6jkg.

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[Repeater-Builder] Canadian retailer of coaxial cables

2006-03-24 Thread bradprimmer
Anybody in here know of a retailer in Canada that sells
RG-142U coaxial cable. This is a double shielded cable
that is about the size of RG-58 ?


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[Repeater-Builder] painting antenna

2006-03-24 Thread chris Inos



would like to paint a cellwave stationmaster...any recommendation as to what would be a fitting paint and where to procure it?  thanks  chris
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] painting antenna

2006-03-24 Thread Mike Perryman






That 
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[Repeater-Builder] TLE 1062 B

2006-03-24 Thread Tom Saunders
Anyone on the list have any info on this amp? 

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Canadian retailer of coaxial cables

2006-03-24 Thread Bob M.
Not necessarily answering your question, but RG400 is
the same cable with a stranded center conductor rather
than one solid center conductor. It flexes easier.
Same size and construction. I've seen it for $1/ft but
deals can be found once in a while (100 ft for $60 on
eBay was a good buy).

Bob M.
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 RG-142U coaxial cable. This is a double shielded
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] TLE 1062 B

2006-03-24 Thread n . mckie

  What is it out of --- so I can know where to go look? 

  Neil - WA6KLA 

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Anyone on the list have any info on this amp? 

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[Repeater-Builder] Yoke - for mounting duplexer cavities

2006-03-24 Thread Chuck Kimball
Good Day All:

I'm looking for a source for the plastic part that Sinclair uses in 
their duplexers for holding the cans to the cross rails.  I found 
out they call it a 'yoke', but so far have been unsuccessful in 
getting a part number or price out of them to order some.  (Or an 
RMA for a Circulator, but that's another story). 

Due to a building that is really tight on space, I've stripped the 
duplexer out of the cabinet and mounted the cans to the ceiling.  
Now I've got a couple of more cavities to mount, and am out of 
the 'yokes' from the duplexer.  

Any suggestions or locations to find those sorts of mounting 
brackets.  I'm familiar with how TX/RX does just the L bracket for 
the hose clamp, but prefer the spacing the plastic piece from 
Sinclair 
provides.  

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[Repeater-Builder] VXR-5000

2006-03-24 Thread Michael Antoine


 Anyone can tell me a simple way to tune a small
 6 cavity duplexer on 448 - 443 for a VXR-5000
 Vertex repeater, never done one before. It's a 
 Vertex Model DXU B series duplexer that I purchase
 with the VXR-5000, this is the same repeater that I'm
 looking CSC CWID 51B information about, still can't
 find my manual to do the pinout,

 Thanks for all your help,

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] TLE 1062 B

2006-03-24 Thread n . mckie

  Thank you - yes I have the info on that PA Deck. 

  Motorola Manual Part Number = 68-81008E20 

  Neil 

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tle1062 is p/a from uhf motrac c74mst
base-repeater

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[Repeater-Builder] Special to KA0SSF - Metrum II

2006-03-24 Thread n . mckie

  Metrum II channel crystals 

Motorola Part Number KXN6097AB 

ICM Part Number 00162200 

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] TLE 1062 B

2006-03-24 Thread Tom Saunders
How large is it and is copying feasible?

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] TLE 1062 B

2006-03-24 Thread n . mckie

  If you are lloking for just the PA ceck, one or two pages ... if 
 you are looking for the power supply too, more pages ... 

  Neil 


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[Repeater-Builder] B D Enterprises

2006-03-24 Thread K4SLB Steve Butler
Does any one know what happened to B  D Enterprises? The build low cost 
Controllers.

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Canadian retailer of coaxial cables

2006-03-24 Thread Charles Miller
Hutton at www.huttononline.com

They have offices in Canada.

 
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 RG-142U coaxial cable. This is a double shielded cable
 that is about the size of RG-58 ?
 
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] VXR-5000

2006-03-24 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 11:30 AM 03/24/06, you wrote:


  Anyone can tell me a simple way to tune a small
  6 cavity duplexer on 448 - 443 for a VXR-5000
  Vertex repeater, never done one before.

This group has a lot of readers all across the USA,
and in many places in the world, and if you say
where in 1-land you are there is a much better
chance of someone popping up and saying I'm
25 minutes south of you, come on over.  Or
something like that.

  It's a
  Vertex Model DXU B series duplexer that I purchase
  with the VXR-5000, this is the same repeater that I'm
  looking CSC CWID 51B information about, still can't
  find my manual to do the pinout,

Pinout of the VXR, or pinout of the CSC ??

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] B D Enterprises

2006-03-24 Thread kd6hcn
B  D is or was owner and operated by:

Boyd  Potts
2871 Monroe St
Santa Clara, CA 95051-1754
(408) 557-9567

Not sure if he is still in business but his repeater
under the callsign kb5jr is still active.

Regards, Barry

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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Adding Bandpass Can to Duplexer

2006-03-24 Thread Coy Hilton
Dwayne, you are right... The cable length Mst be 1/4 electrical wave 
length to come out right just like the ones on your exesisting 
duplexer. This is shorter than the calculated wavelength in free 
space because the RF propegates slower in coax than free space. You 
have to determine the velocity factor of the cabel that you are 
using between the duplexer and the cavity and then use it to 
determine the correct length. Cut the cable as exactly as possible 
to that length THEN put the connectors on it. 

I have added a bandpass and and an additoinal reject filter to the 
receive side of my Duplexer and it works very well. I use a preamp 
to make up for all the loss.

Good luck
AC0Y  

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 Bob,
 
 I think you got it right on. Placing in random lengths of cables 
(out 
 of the junk drawer) between the band pass and the duplexer got 
 different results. 
 
 Re-reading the VE2AZX duplexer theory paper on the Repeater-
Builder 
 web site verified that the cable should be shorter than a 1/4 
 wavelength.
 
 It seems it's pretty random on what the proper length should be 
 depending on the can used. The PD-1173 can used a shorter jumper 
than 
 a DB-4001 can. This is probably where the right angle connector 
trick 
 would come into play.
 
 Thanks for you input, that really helped track it down.
 
 Dwayne Kincaid
 WD8OYG
 
 
 
  I think the length of coax you use between that BP
  filter and the rest of the duplexer is critical.
  
  I have a 900 MHz duplexer that has a BP filter and a
  BP/BR filter on each side. The BP filter gives me 25dB
  attenuation 25 MHz away, and the BP/BR gives me about
  45dB. But when connected together with what seems to
  be a 1/2 wavelength coax, I get 90dB attenuation. The
  whole is greater than the sum of its parts, somehow.
  
  I'd suggest trying a piece of coax that's the same
  length as what's being used now, which might be 1/4 or
  1/2 wavelength, to couple your BP filter to the
  duplexer.
  
  Bob M.
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   This seems like a perplexing problem. Maybe someone
   can point me in 
   the right direction.
   
   I have a TPD 1554, 4-can VHF duplexer. It provides
   about 77 db of 
   isolation with 1.4 db of loss. This is just about
   what the spec says, 
   so that all looks good.
   
   I happen to have some extra PD-1173 VHF band pass
   cans, so I'm 
   thinking of adding a can on each side to get the
   rejection up to 85 
   db or so for use on a VHF repeater (Exec II base
   station at 25 
   watts). 
   
   The bandpass can by its self shows about 0.5 db loss
   and 8 db of 
   rejection at 600 KHz. The curve on the spectrum
   analyzer looks good 
   and the return loss is very good (-40).
   
   Here is where it gets messed up. I added a can on
   the duplexer on the 
   radio side (let's just say the RX side). The loss
   goes up to 1.9 db 
   as expected and the return loss is still good. But
   when I go to 
   measure the rejection, it now shows only 73 db. How
   can this be?
   
   Everything uses double sheilded cable and attenuator
   pads are used on 
   the input and output to the analyzer.
   
   It seems like the rejection should be additive, but
   for some reason 
   it's not showing up that way. Anyone know why?
   
   Dwayne Kincaid
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[Repeater-Builder] Courtesy Tone

2006-03-24 Thread Andrew
Does anybody know the tone scheme for the Stardust courtesy tone on 
the ACC controllers? It is CT #5 on the RC-85. I have it on my RC-85 
and would like to set it up on my RC-850... Thanks for any input.

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Courtesy Tone

2006-03-24 Thread Mike Perryman K5JMP
Andrew,
I found it using google...
http://www.rollanet.org/~joeh/appn4.html
Stardust
E1:   120 ms   750 Hz 0 Hz  %Gain =99 0
E2:80 ms   880 Hz 0 Hz  %Gain =99 0
E3:80 ms  1200 Hz   880 Hz  %Gain =50 0

73
Mike
K5JMP
www.k5jmp.us


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Does anybody know the tone scheme for the Stardust courtesy tone on 
the ACC controllers? It is CT #5 on the RC-85. I have it on my RC-85 
and would like to set it up on my RC-850... Thanks for any input.

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Courtesy Tone

2006-03-24 Thread Andrew G.



Thanks mike, that is really cool, adding it to my bookmarks. Andy KC2GOW
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder 1480 VHF/UHF Antenna

2006-03-24 Thread Lee Williams
They work good...not as good as a single band antenna,but any dual band 
antenna is a compromise. Well constructed with the exception of that 
mounting clamp,replace it before you mount it anywhere.   73,Lee

Jim Cicirello wrote:
 Hello to Kevin and the group:
 I am putting together my 1480 VHF/UHF Dual Band 6/8 dB Collinear 
 Base Station Antenna. While checking the pigtail I made up for the 
 antenna, I discovered that I didn't have any measurable continuity 
 between the center conductor inside the radome to the center of the 
 S0239, however I have 0 ohms between the center element in the 
 radome to the outside of the S0239, i.e. ground. There is a matching 
 coil in the area of the radials. I am presuming that the center of 
 the S0239 is probably connected to the center element through a 
 capacitive coupling. For clarity, I brought out the second antenna 
 and checked it without the pigtail and get the same readings. I am 
 sure the antenna is OK, but would like to understand how the center 
 of the antenna is coupled to the center of the S0239. The larger 
 9/11 dB version I bought at Dayton does not have any measurable 
 continuity between the center and ground, so I presume it is the 
 same design, just larger in size for gain.  This is a great antenna! 
 Any information on how these Repeater Builder 1480 Antenna work, 
 would solve my curiosity. 

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