Re: [Repeater-Builder] AC Line Conditioner

2007-09-28 Thread Fred Seamans
Eric / Don, Eric you are so right; A properly designed electrical distribution system--. However many systems are not designed properly and more are not maintained properly! It is left up to the customer to correct for these problems. Many 4kv systems just ahead of the pole transformers do not

[Repeater-Builder] Spectral Power

2007-09-28 Thread Kris Kirby
I've been milling a few things over in my head and one thing that has struck my mind and resonated is power versus modulation -- our 900MHz repeaters typically use a +/-2.5KHz average deviation, which is smaller than the VHF norm of +/-4.5KHz. At almost half the deviation, it would seem that

Re: [Repeater-Builder] New Article: Mastr II self quieting

2007-09-28 Thread Steve S. Bosshard (NU5D)
Once upon a time in the early 80s I worked on an Army Mars repeater that self quieted. Transmitter on 143.990 and received on 148.01. Seems like the transmitter used a X12 multiplier, and the receiver had a 12 mHz. IF. Took lots of screen wire and feed thru capacitors to make that puppy

[Repeater-Builder] Test-please ignore

2007-09-28 Thread John
Have not been able to post from my old addres so am trying this one John

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Call Sign and Sounds like a Ham, NOT

2007-09-28 Thread Nate Bargmann
* kf0m [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007 Sep 27 21:44 -0500]: Nate: you left out the other fun part of Kansas ham plates. All Kansas plates have a sticker that identifies the county where it was issued except for ham plates. We have a saying in ks, that there are only two types of hams with call

RE: [Repeater-Builder] AC Line Conditioner

2007-09-28 Thread TGundo 2003
I have to agree and disagree. I agree there are many gimmick line conditioners out there. ! agree the utility should provide a proper distribution system. I somewhat agree that converting to 14VDC and floating a battery should help. The big transformer on the power supply should

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Spectral Power

2007-09-28 Thread Steve S. Bosshard (NU5D)
I once heard of a term called Gain Bandwidth Product where the greater the bandwidth - lower the gain. FM commercial broadcast uses extremely wide bandwidth to support 15 Khz audio and good s/n. Business once used +/- 15 kHz transmitter deviation to support 300 to 3000 Hz, then +/- 5 kHz,

[Repeater-Builder] New Article: Mastr II self quieting

2007-09-28 Thread Scott Zimmerman
Fellows, I have finally published my article on why the UHF mastr II radio self quiets when converted to a repeater using low-side receiver injection. Please read over it and let me know of any problems or things that just don't make sense.

[Repeater-Builder] RAIN REPORT: The NFCC and Jay Maynard, K5ZC, push for FCC D-STAR Repeater Clarification, Part One

2007-09-28 Thread Mark Thompson
RAIN REPORT: The NFCC and Jay Maynard, K5ZC, push for FCC D-STAR Repeater Clarification (Part One, 13 minutes). http://www.therainreport.com/rainreport_archive/rainreport-9-27-2007.mp3 Shape Yahoo! in

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Call letter plates

2007-09-28 Thread Nate Duehr
Ken Arck wrote: Ken (who hears comments like You're lucky your call isn't AH0LE when they see my call plate!) You think that's bad: My originally issued license was N0NTZ, which got a lot of Why did you put THAT on your license plate? :-) It would make for a good club call and motto

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Any suggestion on repeater controllers using radio link to irlp without audopatches...

2007-09-28 Thread Ken Arck
At 11:39 AM 9/28/2007, you wrote: In an IRLP setup, when done properly, in that repeate with a separate IRLP radio link configuration -- you'll also need a way to ID the link toward the IRLP node without PASSING it through the IRLP node, so toggling CTCSS is a nice way to do that. Unless

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Any suggestion on repeater controllers using radio link to irlp without audopatches...

2007-09-28 Thread Nate Duehr
larry allen wrote: Any suggestion on repeater controllers using radio link to irlp repeater does not have audopatch... Larry ve3fxq Are you asking which repeater controllers can handle a link radio attached to one of their ports? There's a lot of them that can do that... In an IRLP

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Any suggestion on repeater controllers using radio link to irlp without audopatches...

2007-09-28 Thread Nate Duehr
Ken Arck wrote: At 11:39 AM 9/28/2007, you wrote: In an IRLP setup, when done properly, in that repeate with a separate IRLP radio link configuration -- you'll also need a way to ID the link toward the IRLP node without PASSING it through the IRLP node, so toggling CTCSS is a nice way to

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Any suggestion on repeater controllers using radio link to irlp without audopatches...

2007-09-28 Thread Ken Arck
Unless the IRLP connection is made directly to one of the Ports. Then CTCSS is irrelevent ---Actually, I want to clarify this a bit. If he plans on using a radio link between the controller and IRLP Node itself, CTCSS control is still irrelevant as we're not dealing with a repeating radio

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Any suggestion on repeater controllers using radio link to irlp without audopatches...

2007-09-28 Thread Nate Duehr
Ken Arck wrote: Unless the IRLP connection is made directly to one of the Ports. Then CTCSS is irrelevent ---Actually, I want to clarify this a bit. If he plans on using a radio link between the controller and IRLP Node itself, CTCSS control is still irrelevant as we're not dealing

[Repeater-Builder] Wanted to Buy - UHF Moto GM300's

2007-09-28 Thread Tony L.
438-470 MHz/16 channel only. Any power level. Working condition only. Accessories not needed. Send replies off list only, please. Include exact model # and asking price. Thanks.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Any suggestion on repeater controllers using radio link to irlp without audopatches...

2007-09-28 Thread Ken Arck
At 12:07 PM 9/28/2007, you wrote: Ken Arck wrote: Not true, that transmitter needs to be ID'ed. To keep that ID from being heard by the receiver at the IRLP node, CTCSS control is required. (Or other cheesy solutions like audio notch filters, but even then you have quiet key-ups being seen by

RE: [Repeater-Builder] AC Line Conditioner

2007-09-28 Thread Eric Lemmon
Fred, Thanks for the vote of confidence! I think that the underlying message is that anyone who is paying for electrical power has a right to expect clean and stable power. I don't care if the power problem is at the end of a 20-mile-long single-phase tap that is along a nearly-impassable

RE: [Repeater-Builder] AC Line Conditioner

2007-09-28 Thread kf0m
Back in the 70's I worked as an Engr for a broadcast AM/FM station. One day after a bad storm the night before, there was a message that during the storm, the evening DJ had seen some flashes in the control room from one of the equipment racks. Each of our 19 inch racks had power coming in

RE: [Repeater-Builder] AC Line Conditioner

2007-09-28 Thread Eric Lemmon
John, What a coincidence! I was Chief Engineer at WLRW in Urbana, IL, from 1968-70, and we, too, had some really severe lightning storms during my tenure. Thanks to well-designed equipment, we did not have to add any MOV devices to any of our power feeds. Also, we put the onus for surge

[Repeater-Builder] Test-ignore

2007-09-28 Thread John
Test-ignore. Checking to se if I can post from this address John, K4AG