[Repeater-Builder] R100 Programming

2008-05-28 Thread David
Does anyone have any info or manual to assist in a Motorola R100 RT100 repeater or could possibly answer a few questions. I have rss for v1.9 for the R100 and have been able to change the freq and tune the unit now but cannot find where in the rss the PL or DPL is programmed. If you are

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Earthquake Resistant

2008-05-28 Thread Kris Kirby
On Tue, 27 May 2008, Roger Stacey wrote: Our group wants to upgrade our repeater site to be more earthquake resistant. We realize that there are no earthquake proof repeaters but we want to improve any chances of survivability. Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Build

[Repeater-Builder] Re: R100 Programming

2008-05-28 Thread sgreact47
David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have any info or manual to assist in a Motorola R100 RT100 repeater or could possibly answer a few questions. I have rss for v1.9 for the R100 and have been able to change the freq and tune the unit now but cannot find where in the rss the PL or

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: R100 Programming

2008-05-28 Thread David Piche
Okay, I figured the arrows part out. But what do the functions do? the SVXM and where do you change the PL tone? I can't seem to find that part. If I print it to the screen it says; nbsp; freq:nbsp; 46X.XXX (the correct one) PL tone time out nbsp; but where can I change the parameters for the

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GE Delta

2008-05-28 Thread Mung Bungholio
Thanks. Yes it is a high split. N3DD3N110TB. The freqs on the label inside are all in the 47 mhz range. Vern From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ka9gpx Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 9:03 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject:

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GE Delta

2008-05-28 Thread Mung Bungholio
Cool. Thanks! This is very helpful . Mine is for sure a synthesized Delta. I have to order my programmer as well. They do have some just not listed on Ebay right now. Vern From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Brown Sent: Tuesday, May 27,

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Earthquake Resistant

2008-05-28 Thread Paul Finch
Always liked that tower, I have been there many times. How did they transfer the center of gravity to the base of the tower except having more concrete down under than in the structure of the tower above? I may have answered my own question. Paul _ From:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Earthquake Resistant

2008-05-28 Thread Gran Clark
Roger We have two sites that are very earthquake prone. Both have inside racks secured to the top of the vault. Towers have not been a problem so far. Gran K6RIF At 09:22 PM 5/27/2008, you wrote: Hi all, Our group wants to upgrade our repeater site to be more earthquake resistant. We

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II white noise on transmit

2008-05-28 Thread Thomas Oliver
I don't think there is anything connected to the CG HI input right now so I will give it a try. It is a Mastr II station. thanks tom n8ies [Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/28/2008 12:39:07 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: R100 Programming

2008-05-28 Thread Thomas Oliver
It has been awhile since I messed with mine but I think I that when you read the radio it displays freq and pl that is programmed. Check to see if it shows a pl code because if it shows a DPL you can not put in a PL. The R100 is either PL or DPL. Or maybe yours is carrier only? tom -

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

2008-05-28 Thread Ron Wright
Radio Shack did sell a simplex repeater controller at one time. They are on e-bay much of the time. However, this is only a controller, not a repeater. I don't think RS sold a radio wired to this controller as a package. The use of the controller was up to the buyer...mostly for Ham use,

[Repeater-Builder] GMRS simplex repeater use

2008-05-28 Thread Daron Wilson
store and forward repeater(s) are forbidden on GMRS. I didn’t notice anything in the rules that says this, can you point me to the reference for this forbidden use? Daron

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

2008-05-28 Thread Ron Wright
The way the FCC often looks at things if it don't say you can do it you cannot. Of course this is not always the case. It don't say in Part 97 one does not have to know the code to get a license. It does state what is required, but what is NOT required. However, in commercial serices

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GMRS Radios

2008-05-28 Thread Ron Wright
I would think a simplex repeater in GMRS might be more under a remoted base station license if allowed at all. In GMRS base stations and repeaters have totally different set of rules. Repeaters have few restrictions other than power, actual output power. Base stations have ERP and antenna

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Earthquake Resistant

2008-05-28 Thread no6b
At 5/27/2008 23:48, you wrote: On Tue, 27 May 2008, Roger Stacey wrote: Our group wants to upgrade our repeater site to be more earthquake resistant. We realize that there are no earthquake proof repeaters but we want to improve any chances of survivability. Any ideas or suggestions would

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II white noise on transmit

2008-05-28 Thread no6b
At 5/28/2008 07:24, you wrote: I don't think there is anything connected to the CG HI input right now so I will give it a try. It is a Mastr II station. If you're not using CG at all, you can simply short CG HI to CG LO. Bob NO6B

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II white noise on transmit

2008-05-28 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Tom - Let us know your results. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Thomas Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II white noise on transmit I don't think there is anything

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II white noise on transmit

2008-05-28 Thread Steve S. Bosshard (NU5D)
You could also turn the deviation pots - CG and Voice to min - not as solid as a ground on the input, but might help divide and conquer the noise source - I don't recall a M2 mobile making noise / hiss during TX. On a repeater station, a gate may be leaking causing some pass thru, but this

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Radios to sale !!!!

2008-05-28 Thread Wayne
First, Who said it was considered 2 meters? Second, please turn your cap lock off. Third, I had read, somewhere, that some cavities made for the VHF high band could be tuned as bandpass on the 440 band. After all, the 3rd harmonic of 147.00 MHz is 441.00 Mhz. Same would, more or less,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

2008-05-28 Thread mung
I don't plan to use one of those for my store and forward. I am going to run one of the software based tools that will do it. That will also give me a remote way to turn it off. Vern On Wed, 28 May 2008 09:44:13 -0500 (CDT) Ron Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Radio Shack did sell a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

2008-05-28 Thread mung
In this case it does say that you can't run a simplex or store and forward repeater on the FRS channels. If they didn't want it on GMRS wouldn't they just add or GMRS at the end of that line? Almost seems like they want to make sure you don't do it on the FRS channels so that you have to

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

2008-05-28 Thread Daron Wilson
In this case it does say that you can't run a simplex or store and forward repeater on the FRS channels. Where is this again? I’m just not finding all these rules you folks are saying are out there. Thanks,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

2008-05-28 Thread Ron Wright
Even though FRS and GMRS share the same freq segment, they are treated differently. I don't think one can have a base station on FRS even if using low power. FRS rules would not apply to GMRS and vise/versa. If it says FRS only the reg would not apply to GMRS just as you said. I guess

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

2008-05-28 Thread mung
Don't worry even the guys on the personal radio website can't figure this out. No one seems to agree on it. But it seems like as long as I don't have it ID when no one is on it then no one here will have a realy issue with it. Oh wait that was another discussion :) Anyway. There are plenty

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

2008-05-28 Thread mung
It's all in here somewhere. http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/waisidx_07/47cfr95_07.html On Wed, 28 May 2008 10:49:09 -0700 Daron Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In this case it does say that you can't run a simplex or store and forward repeater on the FRS channels. Where is this again?

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Radios to sale !!!!

2008-05-28 Thread Eric Grabowski
Wayne, It would be great if you could do that test. I have some VHF high band duplexers that won't tune down into the 2 meter band but I would love to use them on 70 centimeters. I too have read that not only is it possible to use 150 MHz duplexers on 450 MHz, but that the performance is

[Repeater-Builder] D-STAR, WinLink ALE Mentioned at FCC Forum at Dayton Hamvention

2008-05-28 Thread Mark Thompson
D-STAR, WinLink ALE Mentioned at FCC Forum at Dayton Hamvention  http://www.arrl.org/news/images/nms/other/FCCForumMP3.mp3

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

2008-05-28 Thread Dave Gomberg
At 07:44 5/28/2008, Ron Wright wrote: Simplex repeaters have their use such as for announcments. As for regular radio-to-radio comm it sucks I think simplex repeaters have two obvious applications: 1. When no pairs are available they are an option on simplex frequencies 2. In the event a

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

2008-05-28 Thread Dave Gomberg
At 07:44 5/28/2008, Ron Wright wrote: Simplex repeaters have their use such as for announcments. As for regular radio-to-radio comm it sucks I think simplex repeaters have two obvious applications: 1. When no pairs are available they are an option on simplex frequencies 2. In the event a

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Weather Receivers - follow up

2008-05-28 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
Mark, I understand that Ext. Alert does not follow the NWS signals (specifically for End of Message), but stays high for a period of time and then drops. Am I understanding that correctly? If so, if the message is shorter than the timer on the Ext. Alert, does the repeater then just transmit

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Weather Receivers - follow up

2008-05-28 Thread Chuck Kelsey
It will transmit the NOAA radio for the duration, unless you shorten the length with your controller. Chuck - Original Message - From: Mike Besemer (WM4B) To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 7:21 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Weather

[Repeater-Builder] Simulating a weather alert

2008-05-28 Thread Robert Pease
Is there an easy way to simulate a weather alert for testing. I was thinking of recording one and playing it through my service monitor but there must be one recorded somewhere Any ideas Rob. KS4EC Sent by Good Messaging (www.good.com) -Original Message- From: Mike Besemer

[Repeater-Builder] MASTR II won't unsquelch

2008-05-28 Thread John Transue
I am baffled. I have a MASTR II that I had working at one time. Recently I have a problem with it. It will not unsquelch. It does receive, and a good signal will cause it to go full quieting. But without a signal, the squelch noise is present no matter where the squelch control is set. I have

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Simulating a weather alert

2008-05-28 Thread DCFluX
Best thing you can do is call the local NWS office and request they originate a required weekly test. Alerts are time stamped and there is some debate over how old a message is before it is considered expired. On 5/28/08, Robert Pease [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there an easy way to simulate

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Weather Receivers - follow up

2008-05-28 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
Well pooh! I really don't want to tie up the repeater for X-minutes with dead air. especially when there could be severe weather involved. VOX? Mike WM4B From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 7:34 PM

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Weather Receivers - follow up

2008-05-28 Thread Ron Wright
Mike and Mark, I use a Radio Shack SAME receiver on my repeater. I have it remoted using a simple VOX circuit to key the remote transmitting to the repeater. Not the best, but does work. The Radio Shack unit comes up on an NWS alert and stays open for a fixed 5 minutes. The NWS alert

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Simulating a weather alert

2008-05-28 Thread Ron Wright
Our NWS here in Ruskin near Tampa, Florida, sends a test message each Wednesday between 1100-1200 and 1800-1900 hrs. I thought all NWS stations ran a weekly test. I would think a recording could be made for doing ones own testing. If your NWS gives a test find the times. Might have to do

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Weather Receivers - follow up

2008-05-28 Thread Daron Wilson
We tried a variety of off the shelf receivers, the WX-100 doesn't go off on tests so that was worthless. We tried a couple others and finally spend the money on the Cat WX-200 and just standardized on that. It does real well, it's a bit more spendy, but it does a regular drop and insert

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

2008-05-28 Thread Mung Bungholio
On GMRS they have another function. You can give the family a blister pack radio and they can use it on the repeater. It's not perfect but it is a way to get people to learn more about radio. From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Gomberg Sent:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

2008-05-28 Thread Ron Wright
It does state in the regs one cannot put on a repeater for FRS. One can for GMRS that allows for higher power and requires a license, but not FRS. As for allowing simplex repeater on GMRS I could not find a restriction, but also did not find a reg allowing it. One point in the following:

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Simulating a weather alert

2008-05-28 Thread ka9qjg
This is What I have used for about 3 Yrs Now it will Come on When the NWS Sends the Sig and Will Close a Relay at the End of Transmission Automatically , Now with the You can use Design Your own Connection to Your repeater Sense Line, Timer Etc . Great Tech Support and I even had them

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Simulating a weather alert

2008-05-28 Thread Ron Wright
From the lit it appears one has to have it pre-programed. Wonder who and how this is done. Most off the shelf SAME receivers have user keyboard entry programming and can handle up to 16 SAME codes. Looks like this unit has 4. 73, ron, n9ee/r Ron Wright, N9EE 727-376-6575 MICRO

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Weather Receivers - follow up

2008-05-28 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
Daron, Obviously, we're trying to do this on-the-cheap (since my research and labor doesn't cost the club anything. although it does get me in trouble with the XYL more often than not!). Actually, I don't want our receiver to respond to tests. Although it'd be nice to know that the

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Weather Receivers - follow up

2008-05-28 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
Ron, Do you have a copy of the VOX circuit you use? No point in reinventing the wheel if you’ve already invented it! Any problem with falsing? I was considering using the VOX running that output to an AND gate along with the Aux Alert signal. That way, both would have to be present

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Simulating a weather alert

2008-05-28 Thread Scott Berry
Here's a question. Can one if he wanted to put his/her own weather station on a repeater? I have a Davis Weather Station which has a capability for a card which would normally be used for a telephone. I wonder if that can be used as a controller to link in to the repeater. It would give local

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Simulating a weather alert

2008-05-28 Thread Robert Pease
Yes the cat 200 and probably others in the series can connect to a WX station and do all kinds of reporting. They can be put at the site as the main repeater controller or connected to a radio and be operated remotely Rob Sent by Good Messaging (www.good.com) -Original Message-

[Repeater-Builder] NHRC-2 PC Board Art

2008-05-28 Thread Keith Dobbins
I'd like to build the NHRC-2 repeater controller, I have all the parts except for a PC board, before I try and do my own board, is the mask to make your own anywhere? I'd do the kit from NHRC but I already got all the parts I need in stock vs getting the parts in the kit.I dunno if the board

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Simulating a weather alert

2008-05-28 Thread Robert Pease
I am using a RS model now with vox, it works great and mutes at the end of message signal. I have the audio coming in an aux port and the vox triggering an alarm input. When it recieves an alert it says Weather Alert at the end of month it says Weather alert clear and sends a CW Ident. I

RE: [Repeater-Builder] R100 Programming

2008-05-28 Thread Eric Lemmon
David, You cannot program or change the CTCSS (PL) tone unless your R100 is equipped with the PL Command Board. If your unit is equipped with the CDCSS (DPL) or the carrier squelch command board, you're out of luck. The R100 service manual is here:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] NHRC-2 PC Board Art

2008-05-28 Thread Paul Guello
You used to be able to get just the board with the programmed PIC from NHRC. I think FAR cicuits also used to have the boards. It might be worth checking. The websites are NHRC.net and farcircuits.net. Paul, kb9wlc - Original Message From: Keith Dobbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Earthquake Resistant

2008-05-28 Thread Eric Lemmon
Roger, Perhaps the best reference on the topic is the Uniform Building Code, available in most libraries. Another source is seismic bracing on the Internet. However, there are many common sense precautions that can be taken, among them: 1. Mount heavy and/or dense objects (power supplies and

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Dayton 2008 Chuckle (Tac-Tec - humor)

2008-05-28 Thread George Henry
Maybe I could help you clean out YOUR garage after one of your field trips? George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413 (on the other side of Chicago from you...) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 2:54 PM Subject:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] NHRC-2 PC Board Art

2008-05-28 Thread rb_n3dab
The kit is available for about $40 from NHRC and contains the Bd the programmed PIC and i think 2 other chips. The voice chip is not included and if you want it and they have it it's about $10 more Dend them a email with any questions, they are pretty quick to respond. All the info. about

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sunday at Dayton - Part Deux

2008-05-28 Thread Wayne
You seem to have some misinformation on this thread. Nowhere did anyone say anything about a password. Only about user names and email names. On Ebay, I use the same name that I started with a good time ago. My password is my business, and nobody gets it, period. Wayne WA2YNE

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Weather Receivers - follow up

2008-05-28 Thread Paul Plack
Guys, In normal consumer use, letting the receiver stay on indefinitely would be a good thing. If you were away from home, and arrived home to find the receiver squawking, you'd know you missed an alert. I wonder if we could define a standard DTMF sequence, and have NOAA send it at the end of

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Weather Receivers - follow up

2008-05-28 Thread Thomas Kinard
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