[Repeater-Builder] L1159A pinout
does anyone have the pinout for this unit. i truly need your help!
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Split site link via IP
I've tried several iterations of Linux and have YET to get SvxLink working Can't seem to find all the pieces and parts needed to get it installed... Is there a trick to Linux I don't get? -Jon -WB0VTM - Original Message - From: Gunnar Widell To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Split site link via IP Hi Brian. The software you need is SvxLink. It is FREE to download and has all the features you need, and a lot more. In SvxLink you can use the remotetrx function to split RX's and TX's (yes multiple!) between different QTH's. The built in voter can select the best RX. Several codecs are available if you have limited bandwidth to you internet. Dont be afraid that it is running under Linux. To kick start your repeater system: Find two computers with soundcards. Install Linux, most linux distribution work fine. (Fedora prefered) Install SvxLink, http://svxlink.sourceforge.net/install.php (If there are questions, see below for support!) Play with it! You can use a PC speaker as the TX and a microphone as RX to start with. Warning! You will probably get hooked by this impressive software. Find more information here: http://svxlink.sf.net There is also a Live CD that you can download to test svxlink. Burn this .iso and boot the computer with Linux and SvxLink. NO Install needed to test! http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_name=6c9ade2f0812130617u1bbabcc0q7057d8ee23346650%40mail.gmail.com When you get stuck, this is the place to go: http://svxlink.sourceforge.net/support.php 73 de Gus, SG3P http://sk0ct.se/ Brian; In general VOIP as an audio link is not very stable if you do not control the bandwidth loading of the Link. There are technologies like TDM over IP that have much less jitter and dropout issues.. but it still is reliant on the IP link being stable and not overloaded as well as not interfered with. VOIP is essential not going to be very real time and as a udp protocol is not very error correcting...The delays and dropouts may or may not be worth your effort... http://allstarlink.org/ these folks have a network application which could serve your needs.. but inherent system delays may still be more than you are willing to use on a repeater.. There generally is no provision for voting multiple receivers in any technology based on IP besides TDM over IP.. and that requires good link bandwidth controls.. The allstarlink IP based repeater controller is pretty cool. I am building a node at one of my sites.. but linking is subject to network delays.. Doug KD8B At 10:42 AM 3/9/2009, you wrote: My repeater group is considering building split-site 6m machine. As an inter-site link, I was thinking of using some sort of VOIP arrangement via the internet. I'm curious if anyone has tried something like this: My idea is to use a point-to-point, private link (i.e. not IRLP or Echo) to pump audio and maybe even some signaling between sites. The receive site would consist of the receive radio, controller (most likely an Arcom), and a PC to do the encoding/streaming. The transmit site would consist of a PC to decode the audio stream, a PL decoder for TX logic, and the TX radio. The basic premise would be to take audio from the RX (PL filtered), fed thru the controller, mixed with link PL, and fed to the PC's audio input. The PC then streams the audio over the internet to the RX site PC, where it is decoded and fed to the TX radio, which will be keyed by a PL decoder (provided the IP encode/decode process hasn't mangled the PL). Whew... Now, question is: will it work? Or more properly, has anyone made this work? I'm going to try it on a small scale just to prove concept, but I'm curious if anyone has tried this already. My intention is to use something along the lines of Winamp with Shoutcast or Windows Media Encoder to stream the audio. I'd rather find a Linux-based CLI encoder if such an animal exists. I had thought about using IRLP nodes as endpoints, but IRLP policy would preclude that. Thoughts? Encouragement? FTW is he THINKING?!?! ;) I'd be interested in the group's thoughts, and I'll report the results of my experiments. Thanks 73, Brian, N4BWP
RE: [Repeater-Builder] L1159A pinout
Hello, Just to make sure my memory is good, is it a Motorola Phone Patch ? If yes, I think I have the manual Eric VE2VXT _ De : Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] De la part de gueorgui2 Envoyé : 9 mars 2009 14:24 À : Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Objet : [Repeater-Builder] L1159A pinout does anyone have the pinout for this unit. i truly need your help!
[Repeater-Builder] GE mastr II station PA
I am looking for some help with a UHF GE Mastr II base I just acquired. I've never worked on one of these before and have no knowledge as to what mods need to be done. My unit currently is on 416.550 and I need to move it up to 444.425 but have some questions before I begin. My biggest concern is about the Power Amp. I have a 19D321347 G5 Rev N PA board which according to LBI-30213E is a 406-420 Mhz 40 watt PA. There seems to be another version of the same board number except it is a G9 and the LBI says it is for 420-450 Mhz but I can't find a listing with the differences between them. The LBI shows both G5 and G9 range boards with the same components listed as the (LL) designation supposedly covering the entire 406-450 range. Can anyone enlighten me as to the difference between the G5 and G9 version of the 40 watt PA?. Will the 406-420 PA board work in the 444 range? If not can anyone advise what mods need to be done so it will? My PA also has a 19D327024 G1 filter which shows it is used in both the 406-420 range as well as 420-450 range. However when the G9 version of the PA board is used it shows it covers 420-450 Mhz. Will I need to mod the filter to get the 444 Mhz signal to pass? There again I find no differences to the filter board when used in the different segments. I appreciate any help Larry - N7FM
[Repeater-Builder] db products dealers in the ATL area
Seems to be that Cook Towers is out of business in the ATL area. Are there other dealers in the Atlanta area? Thanks, Robert KD4YDC
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Split site link via IP
In addition to what's already been mentioned, a pure linking box (no ID's etc.) on the commerical side is the JPS NXU2 http://www.jps.com/page/view/89about $750 for each end last time I priced them. Chuck n0nhj Ethercrash wrote: My repeater group is considering building split-site 6m machine. As an inter-site link, I was thinking of using some sort of VOIP arrangement via the internet. I'm curious if anyone has tried something like this: My idea is to use a point-to-point, private link (i.e. not IRLP or Echo) to pump audio and maybe even some signaling between sites. The receive site would consist of the receive radio, controller (most likely an Arcom), and a PC to do the encoding/streaming. The transmit site would consist of a PC to decode the audio stream, a PL decoder for TX logic, and the TX radio. The basic premise would be to take audio from the RX (PL filtered), fed thru the controller, mixed with link PL, and fed to the PC's audio input. The PC then streams the audio over the internet to the RX site PC, where it is decoded and fed to the TX radio, which will be keyed by a PL decoder (provided the IP encode/decode process hasn't mangled the PL). Whew... Now, question is: will it work? Or more properly, has anyone made this work? I'm going to try it on a small scale just to prove concept, but I'm curious if anyone has tried this already. My intention is to use something along the lines of Winamp with Shoutcast or Windows Media Encoder to stream the audio. I'd rather find a Linux-based CLI encoder if such an animal exists. I had thought about using IRLP nodes as endpoints, but IRLP policy would preclude that. Thoughts? Encouragement? FTW is he THINKING?!?! ;) I'd be interested in the group's thoughts, and I'll report the results of my experiments. Thanks 73, Brian, N4BWP Yahoo! Groups Links
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick Mastr2 current draw question...
Why not simplex? Looks like you could cover that area without all the work:-)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE mastr II station PA
My suggestion is to get a different radio with the 88 split. Otherwise you've got a lot of work ahead. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: iamcranked la...@thunderbolt.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 4:55 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] GE mastr II station PA I am looking for some help with a UHF GE Mastr II base I just acquired. I've never worked on one of these before and have no knowledge as to what mods need to be done. My unit currently is on 416.550 and I need to move it up to 444.425 but have some questions before I begin. My biggest concern is about the Power Amp. I have a 19D321347 G5 Rev N PA board which according to LBI-30213E is a 406-420 Mhz 40 watt PA. There seems to be another version of the same board number except it is a G9 and the LBI says it is for 420-450 Mhz but I can't find a listing with the differences between them. The LBI shows both G5 and G9 range boards with the same components listed as the (LL) designation supposedly covering the entire 406-450 range. Can anyone enlighten me as to the difference between the G5 and G9 version of the 40 watt PA?. Will the 406-420 PA board work in the 444 range? If not can anyone advise what mods need to be done so it will? My PA also has a 19D327024 G1 filter which shows it is used in both the 406-420 range as well as 420-450 range. However when the G9 version of the PA board is used it shows it covers 420-450 Mhz. Will I need to mod the filter to get the 444 Mhz signal to pass? There again I find no differences to the filter board when used in the different segments. I appreciate any help Larry - N7FM Yahoo! Groups Links
RE: [Repeater-Builder] GE mastr II station PA
Can anyone enlighten me as to the difference between the G5 and G9 version of the 40 watt PA?. If I remember right, one capacitor is changed, and one is either added or deleted. I have GE's mod sheet that tells you how to convert a 40 watt 406-420 to a 420-450. Email direct if you want a copy. Will the 406-420 PA board work in the 444 range? Only the 40 watt board, and only a couple of components like I mentioned. The PA board (if you had a 100 watt PA) doesn't require modifications. Will I need to mod the filter to get the 444 Mhz signal to pass? I'll have to look at the schematics again; I thought there was a difference between the low-pass filter boards but maybe not. It might be easier just to sub in an LPF out of a 450-470 radio since they're easy to come by. --- Jeff WN3A
RE: [Repeater-Builder] GE mastr II station PA
My biggest concern is about the Power Amp. I meant to comment on this - the power amp is the least of your worries. The exciter and receiver is where you'll likely have bigger problems. Here again, it's probably easier to find 450-470 boards and swap them out. --- Jeff
RE: [Repeater-Builder] GE master II station PA
Hi Larry, I know someone in Hermiston who has stacks of the 420 models. Mike Colorado Telecom, L.L.C Mike Mullarkey 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-954-9695 Home 303-954-9693 Home Office Fax 303-718-8052 Cellular _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of larryjspamme...@teleport.com Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 8:20 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE mastr II station PA Why not just find someone to trade the station for a 450-470 MHz range version? There are loads of them, and the 406-420 units are very desirable (and somewhat scarce) for people who want to make 420 MHz links. -Original Message- From: iamcranked Sent: Mar 10, 2009 1:55 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] GE mastr II station PA I am looking for some help with a UHF GE Mastr II base I just acquired. I've never worked on one of these before and have no knowledge as to what mods need to be done. My unit currently is on 416.550 and I need to move it up to 444.425 but have some questions before I begin. My biggest concern is about the Power Amp. I have a 19D321347 G5 Rev N PA board which according to LBI-30213E is a 406-420 Mhz 40 watt PA. There seems to be another version of the same board number except it is a G9 and the LBI says it is for 420-450 Mhz but I can't find a listing with the differences between them. The LBI shows both G5 and G9 range boards with the same components listed as the (LL) designation supposedly covering the entire 406-450 range. Can anyone enlighten me as to the difference between the G5 and G9 version of the 40 watt PA?. Will the 406-420 PA board work in the 444 range? If not can anyone advise what mods need to be done so it will? My PA also has a 19D327024 G1 filter which shows it is used in both the 406-420 range as well as 420-450 range. However when the G9 version of the PA board is used it shows it covers 420-450 Mhz. Will I need to mod the filter to get the 444 Mhz signal to pass? There again I find no differences to the filter board when used in the different segments. I appreciate any help Larry - N7FM
[Repeater-Builder] FS/FT: 900 MHz Duplexer
I have a friend who has one of these, and is looking to either exchange it for a VHF duplexer (160 MHz, capable of a split of approx. 800 kHz at 50W) or funds in order so he can buy a VHF duplexer. TX-RX http://birdtechnologies.thomasnet.com/item/cavity-filters/vari-notch-174-ca vity-filters/15-88-12?plpver=10origin=keywordby=prodfilter=0 15-88-12 To save time, this is a two-cavity duplexer for approx. 896 - 930 MHz. If you have an interest in it, I can put the two of you in touch with each other. (He is not a subscriber to the list.) Thanks, Mark - N9WYS
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Quick Mastr2 current draw question...
At 3/9/2009 21:20, you wrote: Longest distance is .69 km with an obstruction at .27 km from the repeater. RX sensitivity on both the repeater and the mobile units is set at 1.0 uV. Repeater TX set at 250 mW, 3 dB antenna/feedline/cavity loss, 6 dBi antenna. Mobile unit TX set at 500 mW, -2 dBi antenna, zero feedline loss. On the longest hop, link is calculating 15.4709 uV at the mobile station, 21.8792 uV at the repeater station. Am I too far off base here? Looks good to me. As far as current draw sans RFPA, I've never measured an MVP (similar radio) in that config., but mine draws 0.27 A with the TX unkeyed. I would expect the exciter alone to draw no more than 150 mA @ 10 V (1.5 watts in, 250 mW out). So figure 0.4 to 0.5 A total. You might be able to get that number down if you cut power to the audio PA, as I believe that draws a significant amount of quiescent current. Bob NO6B
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick Mastr2 current draw question...
Tried simplex last year - from the farthest extents of the site, simplex worked less than 25% of the time. The repeater site would be directly above the entire event - this is the traditional text book example used in ham license manuals: users on both sides of a mountain, can't communicate directly, repeater can see both. Thanks to the author of the below linked image: http://9w2bba.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/repeater.gif The terrain could best be described as a high desert canyon with ridges, cliffs and saddles mixed between the various points of the event - perfect for a Scouting invitational :) On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 6:36 AM, Ben b.run...@insightbb.com wrote: Why not simplex? Looks like you could cover that area without all the work:-)
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Setting HT600/P200/MT1000
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, ka1jfy walter.howard...@... wrote: Please, PLEASE, P L E A S E tell me you're NOT trying to use those wideband only radios on a narrowband Part 90 system! They will NOT meet the emission mask for narrowband operation without turning the total deviation below 2 kHz. And the receivers will still be wideband. Bad choice. Bite the bullet and buy some narrow capable radios. Leave those for GMRS or Ham use. WalterH O.k., WalterH, I will tell you I am NOT trying to use those wideband only radios on a narrowband Part 90 system. Thank you for your considerable technical help. 73, Bill, k6whp
[Repeater-Builder] BRAMCO Reeds
I found a couple of BRAMCO reeds in my junque box today, and can't remember if these are VibraSponder or VibraSender compatible reeds. Part number is A01863 (Tone 141.3). Can anyone remember if these -sponders are or -senders?? Thanks! Mark - N9WYS
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick Mastr2 current draw question...
Bob, For receiver, exciter, and 10 volt reg. only Receive squelched 250 ma Transmit 440 ma Receive unsquelched 1.2 A If you can do without speaker audio pull one end of R617 and R618 the class A audio amp is wasteful. Randy KD4RIP
[Repeater-Builder] Controller for 2nd Repeater
Have 2 440 Repeaters. Main one is MastrII, with Zetron Controller. 2nd is 2 Icom Mobile Radios IC-F420 10, and IC420S 10 in Repeater Configuration. Works good as Backup to Main Computer. Would like to know if anyone is using this Method what Controller are you Using? Wesley AB8KD
Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE mastr II station PA
I have moved several GE Mastr II 40 watt units up from the 417 mHz area to the 440 mHz area as repeaters. The exciter tunes up OK to the higher frequency, but the receiver front end and LO multiplier will not tune. I use LOW side injection for the LO string and modify the helical resonators in the front end. I remove all the helical resonator coils and remove one quarter turn from each coil to get it to tune up into the 440 band. The modified receiver will tune from 420 through 450 with this mod. A better approach is to obtain a 450-470 mobile and exchange the LO and front end modules. No modification is required to the helical resonators on the 450 to 470 radios. Be sure to use HIGH side injection for the receiver with the 450-470 front end. On the low pass filter for the transmitter, I paralleled a #20 bare wire with the wire already in place coupling the sections of the filter together and the reduced inductance moves the filter up enough into the band to pass 450 with no problem. I did not change anything else in the amp. 73 - Jim W5ZIT --- On Tue, 3/10/09, iamcranked la...@thunderbolt.net wrote: From: iamcranked la...@thunderbolt.net Subject: [Repeater-Builder] GE mastr II station PA To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, March 10, 2009, 3:55 AM I am looking for some help with a UHF GE Mastr II base I just acquired. I've never worked on one of these before and have no knowledge as to what mods need to be done. My unit currently is on 416.550 and I need to move it up to 444.425 but have some questions before I begin. My biggest concern is about the Power Amp. I have a 19D321347 G5 Rev N PA board which according to LBI-30213E is a 406-420 Mhz 40 watt PA. There seems to be another version of the same board number except it is a G9 and the LBI says it is for 420-450 Mhz but I can't find a listing with the differences between them. The LBI shows both G5 and G9 range boards with the same components listed as the (LL) designation supposedly covering the entire 406-450 range. Can anyone enlighten me as to the difference between the G5 and G9 version of the 40 watt PA?. Will the 406-420 PA board work in the 444 range? If not can anyone advise what mods need to be done so it will? My PA also has a 19D327024 G1 filter which shows it is used in both the 406-420 range as well as 420-450 range. However when the G9 version of the PA board is used it shows it covers 420-450 Mhz. Will I need to mod the filter to get the 444 Mhz signal to pass? There again I find no differences to the filter board when used in the different segments. I appreciate any help Larry - N7FM
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna ID
If it's a DB antenna, it's a 304 - Original Message - From: NORM KNAPP nkn...@twowayradio.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 11:20 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna ID I need help in identifying a VHF antenna. It is pretty old. I would say about 20+ years. It is built the way a DB-408 is, but the folded dipoles are the size of a DB-224. think of it as a DB-208. It has the size mast of a DB-224, but twice as many dipoles. The dipoles attach to the mast differently than the db-224 does however. I do not have any pictures yet. It looks sort of like one of those Cushcraft VHF antennas, but the dipoles are made like the DB-224. I have one of the cushcraft antennas, but it isn't one of them. I have often wanted to take 2 db-224s and put them both on a single mast this way. Seems like it would be a really great antenna. 73 de N5NPO Norm Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick Mastr2 current draw question...
Bob/Randolph/Randy :) : That's what I was looking for! 73s, AJ, K6LOR On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 8:33 AM, Randolph Bennett slrfbenn...@peoplepc.comwrote: Bob, For receiver, exciter, and 10 volt reg. only Receive squelched 250 ma Transmit 440 ma Receive unsquelched 1.2 A If you can do without speaker audio pull one end of R617 and R618 the class A audio amp is wasteful. Randy KD4RIP
Re: [Repeater-Builder] BRAMCO Reeds
I seem to remember the bramco reeds as -sponder units. If you happen to have a -sender, it usually works either way if I remember right. James Mark wrote: I found a couple of BRAMCO reeds in my junque box today, and can't remember if these are VibraSponder or VibraSender compatible reeds. Part number is A01863 (Tone 141.3). Can anyone remember if these -sponders are or -senders?? Thanks! Mark - N9WYS Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] BRAMCO Reeds
Mark, I may be mistaken, but I seem to remember Bramco's as all being senders. de, Lee K4LJP 73 On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 2:21 PM, James Delancy ctra...@gmail.com wrote: I seem to remember the bramco reeds as -sponder units. If you happen to have a -sender, it usually works either way if I remember right. James Mark wrote: I found a couple of BRAMCO reeds in my junque box today, and can't remember if these are VibraSponder or VibraSender compatible reeds. Part number is A01863 (Tone 141.3). Can anyone remember if these -sponders are or -senders?? Thanks! Mark - N9WYS Yahoo! Groups Links -- Smart pills are placebos, you can't fix stupid.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] BRAMCO Reeds
Since we're all pushing our memories - I remember RED ones being sponders, and BLUE ones being senders _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lee Pennington Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 11:46 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] BRAMCO Reeds Mark, I may be mistaken, but I seem to remember Bramco's as all being senders. de, Lee K4LJP 73 On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 2:21 PM, James Delancy ctra...@gmail. mailto:ctra...@gmail.com com wrote: I seem to remember the bramco reeds as -sponder units. If you happen to have a -sender, it usually works either way if I remember right. James Mark wrote: I found a couple of BRAMCO reeds in my junque box today, and can't remember if these are VibraSponder or VibraSender compatible reeds. Part number is A01863 (Tone 141.3). Can anyone remember if these -sponders are or -senders?? Thanks! Mark - N9WYS Yahoo! Groups Links -- Smart pills are placebos, you can't fix stupid.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] BRAMCO Reeds
correct but wrong model. those were the old 7 pin mechanical reeds. Ted Bleiman K9MDM MDM Radio If its in stock...we've got it! P O Box 31353 Chicago, IL 60631-0353 773.631.5130 fax 773.775.8096 web http://www.mdmradio.com email - mdmra...@yahoo.com DIRECT ALL EMAIL --- On Tue, 3/10/09, Bill Hudson w6...@pacbell.net wrote: From: Bill Hudson w6...@pacbell.net Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] BRAMCO Reeds To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, March 10, 2009, 1:58 PM Since we’re all pushing our memories – I remember RED ones being sponders, and BLUE ones being senders From: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Lee Pennington Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 11:46 AM To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] BRAMCO Reeds Mark, I may be mistaken, but I seem to remember Bramco's as all being senders. de, Lee K4LJP 73 On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 2:21 PM, James Delancy ctra...@gmail. com wrote: I seem to remember the bramco reeds as -sponder units. If you happen to have a -sender, it usually works either way if I remember right. James Mark wrote: I found a couple of BRAMCO reeds in my junque box today, and can't remember if these are VibraSponder or VibraSender compatible reeds. Part number is A01863 (Tone 141.3). Can anyone remember if these -sponders are or -senders?? Thanks! Mark - N9WYS - - -- Yahoo! Groups Links -- Smart pills are placebos, you can't fix stupid.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] BRAMCO Reeds
I've only seen BLUE ones, I'm presently holding a 127.3 in my hand. Lee On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Bill Hudson w6...@pacbell.net wrote: Since we’re all pushing our memories – I remember RED ones being sponders, and BLUE ones being senders -- *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto: repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Lee Pennington *Sent:* Tuesday, March 10, 2009 11:46 AM *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] BRAMCO Reeds Mark, I may be mistaken, but I seem to remember Bramco's as all being senders. de, Lee K4LJP 73 On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 2:21 PM, James Delancy ctra...@gmail.com wrote: I seem to remember the bramco reeds as -sponder units. If you happen to have a -sender, it usually works either way if I remember right. James Mark wrote: I found a couple of BRAMCO reeds in my junque box today, and can't remember if these are VibraSponder or VibraSender compatible reeds. Part number is A01863 (Tone 141.3). Can anyone remember if these -sponders are or -senders?? Thanks! Mark - N9WYS Yahoo! Groups Links -- Smart pills are placebos, you can't fix stupid. -- Smart pills are placebos, you can't fix stupid.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] BRAMCO Reeds
Yep - mine has a blue label, too. Mark - N9WYS From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Lee Pennington I've only seen BLUE ones, I'm presently holding a 127.3 in my hand. Lee On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Bill Hudson w6...@pacbell.net wrote: Since we're all pushing our memories - I remember RED ones being sponders, and BLUE ones being senders._,_.___ Image removed by sender. Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/join;_ylc=X3oDMTJlcnFoamNpBF 9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBGdycElkAzEwNDE2OARncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjMxMDgEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDc3 RuZ3MEc3RpbWUDMTIzNjcxMzk3Ng-- settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch mailto:repeater-builder-dig...@yahoogroups.com?subject=email%20delivery:%20 Digest delivery to Daily Digest | Switch mailto:repeater-builder-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com?subject=change%20deliv ery%20Format:%20Fully%20Featured to Fully Featured Visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder;_ylc=X3oDMTJjYWVwbzhsBF9TAzk 3NDc2NTkwBGdycElkAzEwNDE2OARncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjMxMDgEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDaHBmBHN 0aW1lAzEyMzY3MTM5NzY- Your Group | Yahoo! Groups http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Terms of Use | Unsubscribe mailto:repeater-builder-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com?subject=unsubscribe No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.9/1992 - Release Date: 03/10/09 07:19:00 image001.jpg
RE: [Repeater-Builder] BRAMCO Reeds
So if I understand this correctly, they will work both ways? BTW Lee, you're the second one today (one via private e-mail) who has told me this. (Bramco's are senders and they'll work both ways) wink Mark - N9WYS From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Lee Pennington Mark, I may be mistaken, but I seem to remember Bramco's as all being senders. de, Lee K4LJP 73 On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 2:21 PM, James Delancy ctra...@gmail.com wrote: I seem to remember the bramco reeds as -sponder units. If you happen to have a -sender, it usually works either way if I remember right. James Mark wrote: I found a couple of BRAMCO reeds in my junque box today, and can't remember if these are VibraSponder or VibraSender compatible reeds. Part number is A01863 (Tone 141.3). Can anyone remember if these -sponders are or -senders?? Thanks! Mark - N9WYS Yahoo! Groups Links -- Smart pills are placebos, you can't fix stupid. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.9/1992 - Release Date: 03/10/09 07:19:00 image001.jpg
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Setting HT600/P200/MT1000
Don't ya just love it. You ask for some technical advice and immediately the Wanna be radio police assume you are doing something wrong! From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of W. H. Phinizy Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 12:31 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Setting HT600/P200/MT1000 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com , ka1jfy walter.howard...@... wrote: Please, PLEASE, P L E A S E tell me you're NOT trying to use those wideband only radios on a narrowband Part 90 system! They will NOT meet the emission mask for narrowband operation without turning the total deviation below 2 kHz. And the receivers will still be wideband. Bad choice. Bite the bullet and buy some narrow capable radios. Leave those for GMRS or Ham use. WalterH O.k., WalterH, I will tell you I am NOT trying to use those wideband only radios on a narrowband Part 90 system. Thank you for your considerable technical help. 73, Bill, k6whp
Re: [Repeater-Builder] BRAMCO Reeds
BRAMCO reeds were made for a number of 2-way companies over the years, the color of the reed in meaningless. Each manufacturer selected what they wanted, light blue, dark blue, red, silver, bronze, etc. likewise, coil impedances were variable as well, from 500 to 5K ohms. if you have the stock number, usually beginning with an A0, I can probably tell you what you have. Decoders can be used as senders, however the drive is higher to get them to fire off reliably. note too that the Bramco reeds are position sensitive... especially below 100 hz...if you are going to use mechanical reeds for an application, try to get old Motorola gold reeds, TU217 sender and TU333 sponder, they were better in all aspects, especially sensitivity to close in the sponder reeds. Lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: Lee Pennington To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] BRAMCO Reeds I've only seen BLUE ones, I'm presently holding a 127.3 in my hand. Lee On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Bill Hudson w6...@pacbell.net wrote: Since we’re all pushing our memories – I remember RED ones being sponders, and BLUE ones being senders From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lee Pennington Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 11:46 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] BRAMCO Reeds Mark, I may be mistaken, but I seem to remember Bramco's as all being senders. de, Lee K4LJP 73 On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 2:21 PM, James Delancy ctra...@gmail.com wrote: I seem to remember the bramco reeds as -sponder units. If you happen to have a -sender, it usually works either way if I remember right. James Mark wrote: I found a couple of BRAMCO reeds in my junque box today, and can't remember if these are VibraSponder or VibraSender compatible reeds. Part number is A01863 (Tone 141.3). Can anyone remember if these -sponders are or -senders?? Thanks! Mark - N9WYS Yahoo! Groups Links -- Smart pills are placebos, you can't fix stupid. -- Smart pills are placebos, you can't fix stupid. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.9/1993 - Release Date: 03/10/09 07:19:00
RE: [Repeater-Builder] BRAMCO Reeds
Lance, The reed number was contained in my first message - but I'll repost it here in order to overcome some of the background. wink/grin It is A01863 - 141.3 Hz (4A) Thanks in advance, Mark - N9WYS From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Captainlance BRAMCO reeds were made for a number of 2-way companies over the years, the color of the reed in meaningless. Each manufacturer selected what they wanted, light blue, dark blue, red, silver, bronze, etc. likewise, coil impedances were variable as well, from 500 to 5K ohms. if you have the stock number, usually beginning with an A0, I can probably tell you what you have. Decoders can be used as senders, however the drive is higher to get them to fire off reliably. note too that the Bramco reeds are position sensitive... especially below 100 hz...if you are going to use mechanical reeds for an application, try to get old Motorola gold reeds, TU217 sender and TU333 sponder, they were better in all aspects, especially sensitivity to close in the sponder reeds. Lance N2HBA - Original Message - Mark wrote: I found a couple of BRAMCO reeds in my junque box today, and can't remember if these are VibraSponder or VibraSender compatible reeds. Part number is A01863 (Tone 141.3). Can anyone remember if these are -sponders or -senders?? Thanks! Mark - N9WYS
[Repeater-Builder] Re: BRAMCO Reeds
Didn't 'sponders have contacts on them. Or am I confusing them with other vibrating devices found in radios that are my age...?? GeorgeC W2DB --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mark n9...@... wrote: Lance, The reed number was contained in my first message - but I'll repost it here in order to overcome some of the background. wink/grin It is A01863 - 141.3 Hz (4A) Thanks in advance, Mark - N9WYS From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Captainlance BRAMCO reeds were made for a number of 2-way companies over the years, the color of the reed in meaningless. Each manufacturer selected what they wanted, light blue, dark blue, red, silver, bronze, etc. likewise, coil impedances were variable as well, from 500 to 5K ohms. if you have the stock number, usually beginning with an A0, I can probably tell you what you have. Decoders can be used as senders, however the drive is higher to get them to fire off reliably. note too that the Bramco reeds are position sensitive... especially below 100 hz...if you are going to use mechanical reeds for an application, try to get old Motorola gold reeds, TU217 sender and TU333 sponder, they were better in all aspects, especially sensitivity to close in the sponder reeds. Lance N2HBA - Original Message - Mark wrote: I found a couple of BRAMCO reeds in my junque box today, and can't remember if these are VibraSponder or VibraSender compatible reeds. Part number is A01863 (Tone 141.3). Can anyone remember if these are -sponders or -senders?? Thanks! Mark - N9WYS
[Repeater-Builder] Anyone have this happen?
Hello, Hello I have a Micor UHF repeater station on amateur. I have had it tuned and tested perfect since last fall. I sent my elements to Bomar and had them temperature compensated and all that good stuff. After the repeater has set out in the garage all winter, (unheated, in Indiana) I powered it up today to find that the transmitter didn't appear to be working. After some tests I found that the element was off frequency. I tuned back to frequency and tested. It stayed on frequency for about 2 minutes and then drifted off about 40 Kc. From that point on it would not tune up. I installed the crystal in another element and it tuned right up and stayed that way for the hour that I left it running before I had to leave. I am wondering if it was as simple as the element being bad or maybe something else going on. If it is just the element, I wonder why it just decided to take a dump??? Any thoughts? Thanks -Jordan
[Repeater-Builder] looking for an Untenna (or two)
I'm looking for an Untenna (or two) Anyone got what I think is called an Untenna they'd like to sell, trade, swap or otherwise part with? Actually doesn't matter what band... I'm interested in measuring the radiation angle and related performance. I might not have the name/brand exactly right... It's an open round (fairly large tube diameter) coil with one or two taps. The low band version fits under a radome about the size of a small cake pan and I've not seen a vhf or uhf version up close yet. I'd also be interested in your opinions if you own or have used one. If you've got one you'd part with, please drop me a note. thanks in advance for your replies. skipp skipp...@yahoo.com skipp025 at yahoo.com
Re: [Repeater-Builder] looking for an Untenna (or two)
On Tuesday 10 March 2009 23:07:37 skipp025 wrote: I'm looking for an Untenna (or two) Anyone got what I think is called an Untenna they'd like to sell, trade, swap or otherwise part with? Actually doesn't matter what band... I'm interested in measuring the radiation angle and related performance. I might not have the name/brand exactly right... It's an open round (fairly large tube diameter) coil with one or two taps. The low band version fits under a radome about the size of a small cake pan and I've not seen a vhf or uhf version up close yet. I'd also be interested in your opinions if you own or have used one. If you've got one you'd part with, please drop me a note. thanks in advance for your replies. skipp Thats the direct driven ring radiator, right? I remember when they came out in the 70's or 80's for 2M use. They wern't very good as I remember them, about on par with a 1/4 wave antenna. They did look neat though, and sparked questions from people who saw them. Look at http://www.orionmicro.com/ant/ddrr/ddrr1.htm for more information. --STeve Andre' wb8wsf en82
Re: [Repeater-Builder] BRAMCO Reeds
Wa back when (~25 yrs.), I picked up a Bramco 2+2 decoder at a hamfest for $2.00. Jumpered around the second decoder chain to make it a plain 2-tone sequential decoder and used it with a R/S scanner for my local FD dispatch tones. Seems to me I used Motorola 'sponder reeds from a Pageboy in it, and it worked FB Memories. George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413 - Original Message - From: Captainlance captainla...@optonline.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 4:38 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] BRAMCO Reeds BRAMCO reeds were made for a number of 2-way companies over the years, the color of the reed in meaningless. Each manufacturer selected what they wanted, light blue, dark blue, red, silver, bronze, etc. likewise, coil impedances were variable as well, from 500 to 5K ohms. if you have the stock number, usually beginning with an A0, I can probably tell you what you have. Decoders can be used as senders, however the drive is higher to get them to fire off reliably. note too that the Bramco reeds are position sensitive... especially below 100 hz...if you are going to use mechanical reeds for an application, try to get old Motorola gold reeds, TU217 sender and TU333 sponder, they were better in all aspects, especially sensitivity to close in the sponder reeds. Lance N2HBA Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:repeater-builder-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:repeater-builder-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: repeater-builder-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] SALE - New In-The-Box DB Products Antennas
Our local radio club, the Palm Beach Packet Group(PBPG), was donated several new in-the-box DB Products antennas. These include DB-364B, DB-364C,and DB-304L antennas. Pricing starts at $300.00 with discounts for additional antennas. For more info ask for Doug at (561) 686-3747 or email me (wb4kgy //at// bellsouth //dot// net).
Re: [Repeater-Builder] BRAMCO Reeds
Try to even find a 2+2 decoder today they are no longer even in production. I believe Bramco was the last to produce them and they don't anymore. Our county switched to 5/6 tone for the new weather sirens. Daniel L. Fargo KB3EMH General Class Amateur radio operator -- George Henry wrote: Wa back when (~25 yrs.), I picked up a Bramco 2+2 decoder at a hamfest for $2.00. Jumpered around the second decoder chain to make it a plain 2-tone sequential decoder and used it with a R/S scanner for my local FD dispatch tones. Seems to me I used Motorola 'sponder reeds from a Pageboy in it, and it worked FB Memories. George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413 - Original Message - From: Captainlance captainla...@optonline.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 4:38 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] BRAMCO Reeds BRAMCO reeds were made for a number of 2-way companies over the years, the color of the reed in meaningless. Each manufacturer selected what they wanted, light blue, dark blue, red, silver, bronze, etc. likewise, coil impedances were variable as well, from 500 to 5K ohms. if you have the stock number, usually beginning with an A0, I can probably tell you what you have. Decoders can be used as senders, however the drive is higher to get them to fire off reliably. note too that the Bramco reeds are position sensitive... especially below 100 hz...if you are going to use mechanical reeds for an application, try to get old Motorola gold reeds, TU217 sender and TU333 sponder, they were better in all aspects, especially sensitivity to close in the sponder reeds. Lance N2HBA Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:repeater-builder-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:repeater-builder-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: repeater-builder-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
