RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Circular polarization for VHF repeaters?

2010-09-04 Thread Jeff DePolo
It looks like the FCC rules give you extra power when opting for dual polarization. No, they don't give you extra power. For commercial stations, horizontal polarization is the standard. You can supplement it with vertical, either as cross-polarized linear, or as elliptial/circular, but that

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Interference on VHF repeater

2010-09-04 Thread Paul Plack
Brett, How did you determine it's an IM product? What repeater/controller combination are you using? I'd try powering down the controller and manually keying the transmitter. If that solves it, it could be the controller's reference oscillator or divider outputs leaking onto the PTT line or

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Interference on VHF repeater

2010-09-04 Thread John J. Riddell
Bret, you might have your PA going in to oscillation creating the spurs due to a highly reactive duplexer. We had a similar problem here many years ago and fixed it with a simple tuner on the TX similar ot the GE Z matcher . The one that we used was Home Brew. When the tuner was adjusted for

Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Circulator

2010-09-04 Thread no6b
At 9/3/2010 18:56, you wrote: I'm looking for a UHF circulator to buy (or borrow). I have a mix that involves our transmitter but I'm not sure it's in our transmitter. We have a Micor repeater with the built in circulator but some feel an outboard two port is required for our nasty hill. It

[Repeater-Builder] Pyramid SVR200 programming cable

2010-09-04 Thread tait700
Hello, Was wondering if anyone happened to know how the programming cable is wired for the above pyramid in vehicle repeater ? Cable has a part No. of FY-1 I don't know if the Genuine version has some electronics inside the DB9 plug cover as with the T800 SII that changes levels, etc. The

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Interference on VHF repeater

2010-09-04 Thread Eric Lemmon
Brett, Some additional information will be helpful. What makes/models of equipment are in your repeater? Are all jumper cables and the antenna feedline double-shielded? Are any of the connectors nickel-plated? Are there any barrels or adapters in your jumpers? Is there an isolator/circulator

Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Circulator

2010-09-04 Thread Will Gwin
Tim Sawyer wrote: :wq try: :x Bob N06B wrote: A vi command? That old text editor will never go away! Absolutely! Isn't a recurring theme of this list to keep the old tools that work very well in service and don't replace that which isn't broken? Will Gwin www.N5KH.org

[Repeater-Builder] Micor Pin Gunk

2010-09-04 Thread w9srv
Hi Guys! I am in the middle of rebuilding a receive site for one of the area repeaters and have come across some interesting Pin Gunk. I've been told that Motorola techs years ago used to apply some kind of goo to help with the connection on all the backplane pins, etc, but I don't know if

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Pin Gunk

2010-09-04 Thread Chuck Kelsey
The station ID adds some real class to the video. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: w9srv tgundo2...@yahoo.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 1:27 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Pin Gunk Hi Guys! I am in the middle of rebuilding

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Interference on VHF repeater

2010-09-04 Thread wb8vlc
I have inserted a 6dB pad in the antenna port of the duplexer and found that the IM products drop 12dB, and also curiously, the frequency of the products change. Removing the pad reverses this effect. The above says that it's a 2nd order mix, F1+F2, F1-F2, 2F1 or 2F2. Since it looks to be

Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Circulator

2010-09-04 Thread Tim Sawyer
Indeed, long live vi. I do have a pass cavity between the Micor circulator and the duplexer. I'm not sure where the other IM products are just yet. I'm sometimes hearing a pager. Once I heard what I suspect is Orange County Red Cross on 462.9875... still confirming this. I hear the drip from

Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Circulator

2010-09-04 Thread Tim Sawyer
Same thing but my fingers learned :wq too many years ago to retrain I even type it in my GUI editors... duh! -- Tim :wq On Sep 4, 2010, at 10:10 AM, Will Gwin wrote: try: :x

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Pin Gunk

2010-09-04 Thread Eric Lemmon
Tom, Motorola does not now, and never has, recommended DeOxit or any other contact enhancer gunk besides Stabilant 22. Up until just a few years ago, Motorola specified Stabilant 22A, under part number 1180369E78, which is a mixture of pure Stabilant 22 and isopropyl alcohol. Today, Motorola

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Pin Gunk

2010-09-04 Thread John J. Riddell
Eric, you're singing my tune ! I've used that stuff for many years now and it is really great. It was developed here in Richmond Hill, Ontario, Canada by DW Electrochemicals. As you know only a very small amount is needed on the surface to be effective. The last bottle that I purchased here in

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Msf5000 Low Power alarms

2010-09-04 Thread MCH
You enter that code to get rid of the alarms. I was just wondering how you set them again should you want/need to do that. Joe M. Richard wrote: I'm not quite sure I understand your question. The procedure puts it into normal condition. Nothing further to do. For a conventional MSF5000

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Pin Gunk

2010-09-04 Thread Eric Lemmon
John, I did not find Stabilant listed in the Electro-Sonic online catalog, but I did find the identical kit at Micro-Tools for only $38, here: www.micro-tools.com/store/P-22/Stabilant-22-5ml-Kit-Makes-30ml-Of-22a.aspx I also found that Amazon sells the same kit as Micro-Tools, and for the same

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Interference on VHF repeater

2010-09-04 Thread DCFluX
Look around for a switch mode power supply that uses 600kHz as the switch frequency. SMPS Battery Chargers are popular for causing this. Also florescent twist lights are really good for making desense on VHF.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Pin Gunk

2010-09-04 Thread John J. Riddell
Eric, I checked the web site for DW Electrochemicals and they mention that Electro-Sonic no longer carries their productwe'll have to ask Marty VE3MR what the problem is (he's the owner) Primespec here in Waterloo is where I get mine but shipping might be quite expensive to the USA.

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Pyramid SVR200 programming cable

2010-09-04 Thread niteviser
This what you are looking for? http://www.batlabs.com/svr200.html niteviser --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, tait700 cscan...@... wrote: Hello, Was wondering if anyone happened to know how the programming cable is wired for the above pyramid in vehicle repeater ? Cable has a

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Pin Gunk

2010-09-04 Thread no6b
At 9/4/2010 11:13, you wrote: Tom, Motorola does not now, and never has, recommended DeOxit or any other contact enhancer gunk besides Stabilant 22. Up until just a few years ago, Motorola specified Stabilant 22A, under part number 1180369E78, which is a mixture of pure Stabilant 22 and

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Interference on VHF repeater

2010-09-04 Thread brett
Hi Mike, thanks for your post - I'll think about this a bit more. There is no isolator on the TX - will add one (and BP filter) when I next go to site this week. The radio is synthesised. Regards, Brett --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, wb8vlc mas...@... wrote: I have inserted a

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Interference on VHF repeater

2010-09-04 Thread brett
Hi John, I thought we may have a dubious TX issue - either spurs or as you say something unstable or oscillating. I replaced the TX. It had no impact on the problem. The issue appears to be external to the TX. Also I have terminated the duplexer into a 50ohm load and looked at the RX port

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Interference on VHF repeater

2010-09-04 Thread brett
Paul, no fluro lights on site. Actually no lighting at all - the site is solar powered so little capacity for lighting. No repeater ocntroller - the RX is directly connected to TX via a very simple (passive) audio and PTT circuit. I believe it is an IM product because the RX requires a CTCSS

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Interference on VHF repeater

2010-09-04 Thread brett
Eric, all cables are double shielded. No adaptors are used. There is no isolator on the TX side. Connectors are silver plated, with gold pins. Antenna is a single folded dipole mounted about 15m above the equipment shelter. TX power into the antenna is approximately 15W. There are solar

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Interference on VHF repeater

2010-09-04 Thread brett
Thanks - no battery chargers on site as all solar powered. There are solar charge controllers, though I think I have discounted these. No fluros either. All equipment was switched off for a test, so any SMPS should have been off. Cheers, Brett --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, DCFluX

[Repeater-Builder] master 3 narowband?

2010-09-04 Thread wb5oxq
can the uhf master 3 radios be programmed narrowband in compliance with the new fcc rules or should I take it to a ham swapmeet? wb5oxq

Re: [Repeater-Builder] master 3 narowband?

2010-09-04 Thread Mike Morris
At 05:47 PM 09/04/10, you wrote: can the uhf master 3 radios be programmed narrowband in compliance with the new fcc rules or should I take it to a ham swapmeet? wb5oxq Depends on the vintage of the receiver and exciter modules. Are there any numbers on them? Mike

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Pyramid SVR200 programming cable

2010-09-04 Thread tait700
Thanks Niteviser, Will examine further, looking at the board it appears that there is only one data line plus ground so that rules out the normal type level converter circuit. Thanks again for the link. Regards, Chris S. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, niteviser nitevi...@... wrote:

[Repeater-Builder] Re: S-Com 7330 Controller

2010-09-04 Thread k2wd
Be sure to join the 7330 Beta Yahoo Group, and search earlier messages in that group. Also look in the FILES section in the Yahoo Group site. About a year ago, I took the entire 7K vocabulary (same as the ACC and Link Comm) vocabulary, sampled it, and converted it all into a custom

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor Pin Gunk

2010-09-04 Thread wa6epd
Bob, NO6B, wrote:- This looks like the same stuff: http://www.micro-tools.com/store/P-22/Stabilant-22-5ml-Kit-Makes-30ml-Of-22a.aspx The description of how Stabilant 22 works reads very similar to the Caig Labs DeOxIt products. A performance comparison between the 2 products would be

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor Pin Gunk

2010-09-04 Thread TGundo 2003
Thanks Lou, Bob, Eric, John and the rest! I have a bunch of techs around here that all swear by Deox-it as long as its used sparangily, and Caig seems to hit all concern points in their website vs.22. Has anyone had any specific issues directly related to using Deox-it? I want to do the right

[Repeater-Builder] Mitrek lowband PTT questions

2010-09-04 Thread KP3FT
Hi all, Thanks for the previous advice on the Mitrek lockout key; I ordered one off Ebay and it worked fine. Opened the radio up and everything looks visually OK, all the channel elements are there, no burned components, etc. I read through the Repeater-Builder's Mitrek webpages and figured out

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mitrek lowband PTT questions

2010-09-04 Thread x.tait.tech
what would it take short of some cash to have one sent to me here in New Zealand as a one off key, not that i need one, i am told i am a Hoarder Marcus On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 4:38 PM, KP3FT kp...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi all, Thanks for the previous advice on the Mitrek lockout key; I ordered