[Repeater-Builder] RSS for a MSF5000.. Oh Oh Obsolete at Motorola.
I have been through numerous phone calls with Moto to purchase a legal copy of the programming software to program a MSF5000 repeater and after signing up and also signing a software agreement I now discover the software is obsolete and can not be obtained from Motorola. As you can tell I prefer to purchase the software legally to no avail and motorola's suggestion was to ask fellow hams if they have a copy that they can send me because they simply do not offer it or carry a copy! Before everyone jumps on me for trying to ask for a copy of the software please understand I have done everything I could to obtain a copy through legitimate means and now will take Motorola up on their suggestion and ask if anyone out there has a copy of the RSS for the MSF5000 (should be RVN-4077G (I believe the last version was R05.21.00 according to Repeater-builder site)) could they please contact me. Also are fellow hams still using the msf5000 or are they also considering them too old? I sure thought it was a step up compared to my Micor! Any help would surely be appreciated in my quest as well as any suggestions on these repeaters. Model number of the repeater is C44CXB7106BT now on 453.200/458.200 Thanks Steve N4YZA
[Repeater-Builder] Re: RSS for a MSF5000.. Oh Oh Obsolete at Motorola.
It would be interesting! Maybe I will do that just to see what they say. Both employees I talked to suggested the same thing and said they would not support anything that is obsolete. Course it was interesting that they said it was obsolete in 1995 and the date on the repeater was 1994. Well anyway I want to thank those that replied and I have what I need to start work and will put together a rib (may have one) and cable and see how it goes. Again thanks for those willing to help with the problem. At least now I have a Motorola account if I ever need it! 73's Steve N4YZA GREAT! Now get them to give you that in writing and you and everyone else is good to go. Unfortunately that's not likely to happen, but you never know if you don't ask. 73's Skip WB6YMH
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Portable Repeaters
To my knowledge there is no cut and dried FCC mandated coordination group for ham bands other then good practice. IF there is a FCC regulation stating that a particular coordination group is responsible for the ham bands I do not know it. That said here in some parts of Florida there are a number of mobile or portable repeaters that have been built but these repeaters are designed for emergency use so they are usually not heard from except in an emergency. If you were to pick a simplex frequency and it was used in emergencies I would not see any problem and don't see where any one has a right to complain( well there are always some ) . Do not depend on others to push for a statewide pair or frequency and instead try pushing a frequency yourself ! People have a habit of forgetting past history when repeaters in an area are down for any number of reasons and that having the ability to continue to communicate is very important. When the power goes down after storms and it stays down for a month and sometimes more these repeaters come in handy. I have a UHF GMRS mobile repeater just for this purpose. While mine is duplex I see a good need for simplex repeaters as the radios are real cheap! Cross Band as well! A lot of the repeaters are on commercial sites that when the generator runs dry so do the repeaters! Good luck! Steve N4YZA / WQDW656 - Original Message - From: Paul Yonge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 1:20 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Portable Repeaters I've not been too successful in convincing the various Upstate New York Amateur Radio Associations that simplex repeaters are the answer for providing portable repeaters in critical incident response situations. They are relying on the fixed repeaters to provide adequate coverage but there are areas where it would be advantageous to bring the repeater to the incident instead of trying to reach fixed repeaters with hand-held units from some isolated locations. There are, of course, coordination problems with portable duplex repeaters and there is no apparent interest in agreeing on a wide- split pair of odd frequencies to avoid the conventional-frequency pairs. What experience has there been with the use of portable cross-band repeaters to enable hand-held units using a 440 MHz simplex channel to reach the portable repeater that will relay the message through to a two-meter fixed repeater? Paul Yonge, W2ARK MIDLAKES REPEATER [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Pl tone encode decode methods
I have installed tone boards on my micor repeater but had some questions as to what is the best way to handle PL tones. I have at the moment installed 2 TN-34 Standard tone boards(1 for decode and 1 for encode) and it works fine. Encodes as long as the repeater transmitter is up. Do any repeaters only use the 1 board mode and only encode upon decode of a signal? This, of course, would mean that the repeater ID and courtesy tone would not be heard by the stations unless they have PL decode turned off. Anybody think one way is better then another? Seems a waste to use 2 boards when 1 will do. Just curious what others thoughts are regarding this. Thanks Steve Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Cushman CE-5
I am looking for one as well ! Or a schematic as my tone generator stopped on my CE-5. Thanks Steve - Original Message - From: tgundo2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 2:50 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Cushman CE-5 Does anyone have a pdf of the manual for a CE-5? How about a service manual? The signal generator of mine seems to have become sick, the tone audio sounds almost like its motorboating, but the 1k tone is clean coming right out of the unit. The Signal level is way down as well. Any Ideas? Thanks! Tom W9SRV Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] lightning arrestors
Hi all, I had a question that I believe some of you can answer! I have a repeater with an antenna only about 20 feet off the ground here in Florida and am now looking for a budget lightning arrester. I have seen so many different ads I figured I would go to the horses mouth and ask you all if you have to do it on a budget what did you use? Did you mount the arrestor outside with an appropriate ground or inside? By the way the antenna is low because of the community regs. and it does cover the community for GMRS emergency work at that height. Thanks Steve N4YZA Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] lightning arrestors
Thank you for the reply but it was not helpful in that it did not offer an answer to the question. I was asking for suggestions of equipment on a budget and not snide remarks. Steve - Original Message - From: Kevin King [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 9:59 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] lightning arrestors Only rich people can afford low cost/budget lightning protection! Kevin King SCSA BSCIS ARS KC6OVD GMRS KAG0378 EIEIO 2722 Acworth Georgia -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stephen Rice Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 9:51 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] lightning arrestors Hi all, I had a question that I believe some of you can answer! I have a repeater with an antenna only about 20 feet off the ground here in Florida and am now looking for a budget lightning arrester. I have seen so many different ads I figured I would go to the horses mouth and ask you all if you have to do it on a budget what did you use? Did you mount the arrestor outside with an appropriate ground or inside? By the way the antenna is low because of the community regs. and it does cover the community for GMRS emergency work at that height. Thanks Steve N4YZA Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] lightning arrestors
Thank you Mark. I will look up the Polyphaser arrestors so that I can price them . I have been looking at a number of GAS type arrestors but since my experience was lacking in this area I felt that your answer was very helpful. Steve - Original Message - From: N9WYS [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 10:03 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] lightning arrestors Steve, I use Polyphaser arresters for my repeater system... I prefer not to think of any lightning protection system or component as budget - all you need is to take one lightning strike, and budget goes right out the window!! I planned for expenses related to lightning protection when I started my project, and budgeted accordingly. My arrestors are at the point where the cabling comes into the building... single point ground. I believe you'll find almost everyone here does the same. Save yourself the heartache and get good lightning protection at the get-go. Even an antenna 20 ft up can get bit! My 2¢ worth, anyway... Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen Rice Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 8:51 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] lightning arrestors Hi all, I had a question that I believe some of you can answer! I have a repeater with an antenna only about 20 feet off the ground here in Florida and am now looking for a budget lightning arrester. I have seen so many different ads I figured I would go to the horses mouth and ask you all if you have to do it on a budget what did you use? Did you mount the arrestor outside with an appropriate ground or inside? By the way the antenna is low because of the community regs. and it does cover the community for GMRS emergency work at that height. Thanks Steve N4YZA Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] lightning arrestors
Thanks Jim and I am in the process of looking at the Polyphasers as Mark had recommennded them and the name was also in the repeater builder check list. I will check EBAY as well . Thanks Again ! Steve N4YZA - Original Message - From: Jim Cicirello [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 10:39 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] lightning arrestors The going price for Polyphasers are about $65.00 wholesale. They are available with UHF and N Type Connectors. When I use my spare, I go to E-Bay and start watching. I buy them for about $25.00 IN THE BOX. Make sure you check the frequencies that you bid on. They come in different frequency ranges and power. Again I get them in the Box or take a sellers word that they are new as I don't want one that has been zapped a number of times. Good Luck! 73 JIM KA2AJH Wellsville, NY Jim KA2AJH Wellsville, N.Y. -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin King Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 10:00 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] lightning arrestors Only rich people can afford low cost/budget lightning protection! Kevin King SCSA BSCIS ARS KC6OVD GMRS KAG0378 EIEIO 2722 Acworth Georgia -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stephen Rice Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 9:51 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] lightning arrestors Hi all, I had a question that I believe some of you can answer! I have a repeater with an antenna only about 20 feet off the ground here in Florida and am now looking for a budget lightning arrester. I have seen so many different ads I figured I would go to the horses mouth and ask you all if you have to do it on a budget what did you use? Did you mount the arrestor outside with an appropriate ground or inside? By the way the antenna is low because of the community regs. and it does cover the community for GMRS emergency work at that height. Thanks Steve N4YZA Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] lightning arrestors
Kevin, I owe you an apology as I have been a little short lately! I think not smoking the last 4 or 5 months got to me! You were correct to question the budget Lightning remark and I should of been more explicit. I have been looking on the web and have found so many arresters from 30-400 dollars and figured that someone on a budget would be able to get something reasonably good for a median price. I was not clear and did not have the expertise to determine which would work without pouring out 400 dollars if 50 or 80 or whatever would do as good of a job. I do realize I was short and I now have 2 or 3 brands to look at that I can compare knowing that others have had success with them. Again Kevin I should not of been that sharp and I should of accepted it in the way you intended. Steve N4YZA - Original Message - From: Kevin King [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 12:36 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] lightning arrestors I am sorry it was not meant as a snide remark. It was a truism or pearl of wisdom. I also knew that many folks would respond with information to get equipment. It was an attempt to help you not loose your valuable investment by shortcutting quality or budget for protection. My sincere apology for offending you. Kevin King SCSA BSCIS ARS KC6OVD GMRS KAG0378 EIEIO 2722 Acworth Georgia -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stephen Rice Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 10:45 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] lightning arrestors Thank you for the reply but it was not helpful in that it did not offer an answer to the question. I was asking for suggestions of equipment on a budget and not snide remarks. Steve - Original Message - From: Kevin King [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 9:59 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] lightning arrestors Only rich people can afford low cost/budget lightning protection! Kevin King SCSA BSCIS ARS KC6OVD GMRS KAG0378 EIEIO 2722 Acworth Georgia -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stephen Rice Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 9:51 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] lightning arrestors Hi all, I had a question that I believe some of you can answer! I have a repeater with an antenna only about 20 feet off the ground here in Florida and am now looking for a budget lightning arrester. I have seen so many different ads I figured I would go to the horses mouth and ask you all if you have to do it on a budget what did you use? Did you mount the arrestor outside with an appropriate ground or inside? By the way the antenna is low because of the community regs. and it does cover the community for GMRS emergency work at that height. Thanks Steve N4YZA Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Praise for the hams!!!! - Public Information
Well since I have been through the hurricanes of 2004 where I suffered multiple hits I can personally say that the ONLY organization that had it all together was the Red Cross! I saw a community of 5000 homes where the average age is over 61 become devastated. My home for one, was so badly damaged that my house was considered a constructive total loss. The Red cross not only cooked meals but also drove through the community delivering food and water to all the people along with the local sheriffs! Sure FEMA, President Bush, Governor Bush and their merry crowd showed up and said oh we are so sorry and took the fast plane out! All they did was cause services to cease for security until they left! FEMA was a loss then as well as any of the other so called organizations that are based around here! We were lucky in some ways because we happen to be under the 60 mark and only had one choice; Rebuild by ourselves! As people are finding out all over there is no golden charity except the Governments favorite Business Charities! FEMA arranged to remove the debris from the community and paid large amounts to some . I drove this community for weeks fixing phones in peoples homes for free! We even drove up 30 miles to a Walgreen's and bought dozens of cheap $5.00 phones to give people because many older (and younger) people did not understand that wireless and many fancy phones don't work without power! Hmm Bell South could not get anyone out for at least 1 to 2 months! What was payment to be ? Make a donation to the Red Cross because they were feeding us as I drove around fixing tires on my car as I went! My other half was handling calls in from the community office where people would call in about a phone out as well as performing ring back tests! Was I alone? No! A bunch of people did all sorts of things that helped in one way or another! Sheriffs driving to certain homes that they knew of people with no power or car bringing water! I ran out of phone wire and someone heard about it and within 3 hours a 1000' box of wire appeared! (I did not ask from where) A lot of people survived because of the Red Cross bringing in food for those 3 or 4 weeks of no power. No power translates to no food, water, No Air, No refrigeration, No Gasoline! No Stores! Ever seen a 80 year old try to figure out how to use a MRE? I have! That was our Governments answer to feed people! We can criticize all we want, but what remedy do you have? Government talks about how we need all sorts of faith based and other agencies and that simply means everyone has a hand out for the money! So why should the Red Cross be any different? Be happy that one of those older couples here in Barefoot Bay , Florida was not your Grandfather,Grandmother,Father, or Mother! Criticism is good as long as it is constructive ! If it is broke, help fix it ! Yes sometimes management changes are good and can be done! Hope you never have to go through something like this and we, myself and my significant other, feel very lucky because we had some insurance and even though we are both disabled: we were able to rebuild in a year and a half! Over 400 homes have been removed! Many of the people dealing with the aftermath of Katrina have nothing! No insurance to help rebuild, No FEMA, and an overtaxed charity system! To them our hearts go out to! Want to see what a hurricane does then go to http://cus2.net/steve and you will see what a hurricane and tornados do! I guess I went way over board here and I apologize to the moderator in advance but I have been there ! AND BACK! Be part of the solution not part of the problem! Oh and I am very happy to say I now have some time for ham radio again! It will take some time as a lot of my equipment was destroyed. But you know we are happy to have a home with hot food and running water! Steve N4YZA - Original Message - From: Mike Perryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 8:08 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Praise for the hams - Public Information Yep, if you read the appendices, there was one shelter that the red cross refused to man because it didn't have a dehumidifier... pretty sad when there are lives on the line and yes, I am tired of the ads as well.. 73 Mike Perryman www.k5jmp.us -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of mch Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 5:45 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Praise for the hams - Public Information This is a little off topic, but with all the money spend on the Red Cross ads with respect to Katrina (is anyone NOT tired of those?), I asked my local ARRL Division Director why the ARRL is not spending the money promoting Ham Radio at least in less expensive print form (newspapers, magazines, Etc.). You want a way to increase the
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Virus infection!!!
Well just a quick comment. Who in Peru doesn't like Kevin. Maybe wrong but the IP for the sender was through TELEFONICA.NET.PEwhich is shown to be Lima Peru. Steve - Original Message - From: N9WYS To: 'Kevin Custer' Cc: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 11:11 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Virus infection!!! Kevin, Someone has spoofed your e-mail address!! I just received a message with the subject You must see this video. It was infected with [EMAIL PROTECTED] Im sure you would want to know this. 73 de Mark N9WYS YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
OT Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate.....
I guess I will have to say something on this subject as it is coming down to the same arguments! Everyone in ham radio has an interest and for some that interest is CW, some it is SSB,FM,RTTY,PACTOR, Building, Operating, contesting, Sat work, Volunteers, and the list goes on and on! Stop beating a dead horse! If someone gets a license they at least had to put an effort forward and should be applauded for that! When it comes to jerks there are jerks in every walk of life. You ignore them and move on! Heck, I seldom pick up a microphone as I like to build and Repeaters is something I enjoy building and learning from other builders. I could care less how long someone is a ham or what class they are as its their actions that count! Oh that's right this is the repeater builders group isn't it? hmm , Guess I will have to go back to trying to get these darn M/A Panthers to work on 440 so I can make a mobile repeater ! 73's Steve N4YZA K - Original Message - From: mch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate. Actually, that's how I passed my tests (which was in front of the FCC - pre VEC days). I knew the test would be nothing to do with the 'small words', so when they sent My name is Henry and I'm in Grand Forks, SD. The temperature is 78 degrees and sunny. ... My paper had the following: Henry Grand Forks, SD 78 sunny And I had all the answers for the test. After all, how important is exact copy? I can even mis-spell wodrs and you can still understnad the meaning of waht I said. (did you catch all three 'typos'?) Why should the code be any different? As long as the message is understood, who cares about the medium? Joe M. numberone5call wrote: As the VEC for the local ARRL affiliated VE team. All we are required to grade is the written test of ten questions given to the applicant. You cannot grade someones test by what they have on their copy sheet unless the failed the test and your are looking for 1 minute of solid copy. I've had people copy it in their head and pass the test. Nowhere is it required that you have to write something down on the copy sheet. All you have to do is get 7 or more of the 10 questions on the exam correct. Doesn't matter what is on the answer sheet. You can set a time limit for completing the exam once it is passed out. A hour is plenty of time. Some of these folks sound like they are wanting to be BIG BROTHER!! Dennis no5c ( former ki5fw ) --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Bob M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure the FCC regs require 100% solid copy, but that's how I had to earn my code test, and I think it was done by listening to a 7.5 wpm ARRL transmission too. The transmitting portion is optional and I haven't heard of anyone doing a transmit test in a long while. Bob M. == --- Mike Perryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have a local examiner who not only requires 100% solid copy... he also requires you to send as well. The part 97 reg regarding this is pretty vague... so I guess it is open to interpretation. mike -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob M. Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:30 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate. I do believe it IS an area that a local VE group can control, as long as they state that before the test begins, which was not done in the particular cases I was at. VEs can over-rule an answer sheet on a written test, and they can interpret some other things as well. If a potential test taker doesn't like the rules set up by the VEs, that person can choose to go elsewhere. It IS probably legal per the FCC, but do you think they'd give you all that time to decipher the dots and dashes if you went to an FCC office 30 years ago for a code test? They'd laugh you right out of your chair. If the intent is to show knowledge of the code, and/or fluency in using it, then you can't copy dots and dashes for 5 minutes and spend the next hour decoding it. Bob M. == --- Dave VanHorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yup, a sheet full of dots and dashes. Then she went back and translated each Morse character to it's appropriate letter, number, or punctuation. As far as I'm aware that's legal per the FCC. It's not up to the VE groups to arbitrarily tighten the requirements or change the testing procedures. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links
[Repeater-Builder] Ge M/A-Com Panther 300M to 440
Anybody tried to put a UHF Panther 300m on the 440 Ham Band? I have been looking at the files and was able to locate the frequency parameters for it so it allows you to enter in the software 440 frequencies. I modified it so I am able to enter the 440 band frequencies now but still need to know if there is a way to overide the internal radio flash that says the radio is only 450 to 488. Not sure if the radio has a factory flash or not for its frequency split?. When it tries to upload it sees the radio still as a 450-488 in the radio per. I try to override but no go. Anybody else working on the Panthers for 440 repeaters? Seems like they would be good for it. Thanks Steve Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Micor Base Power Supply
Has anybody built their own battery powered power supply for the Micor Repeater? I am now at the stage I would like to remove the original Micor repeater power supply and build a new one that is a 12 Volt system. If anyone has built one with the 10 volt regulator etc can you contact me direct with problems and ideas. I am trying to decide if I should run the repeater constantly from batteries, like almost all Alarm systems do, or have it switch over. I did get the ICS controller installed in the cage on a spare card so that it hinges out if I need to get to the jumpers on the back side. It simply plugs in the old squelch card slot. This way to revert to standard repeater all that is required is to remove the card plug in the squelch card and line card and remove one jumper on the backplane(local audio) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] M/A-COM Panther 300M UHF 450-488mhz
Anybody here familiar with these radios? I have someone offering to sell me some new ones very nicely priced. I thought they might make for a small repeater since they have the connections on the back like the motorola radios. Or could use stand alone. Still have to find a programming cable or schematic and software as he only had a cloning cable. Thanks Steve N4YZA Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help / suggestion needed...feedback? on Mitrek
Scott this may have nothing to do with it but I have a similar problem with a micor repeater and ICS M controller. It caused me to keep checking audio circuits etc looking for the problem. I then discovered that when I turned the power control down to a certain spot the problem would start and when I increased power it went away. Seems that the power control being at a point caused oscillation. Like I say made a heck of a noise and would stop and start whenever it wanted( usually when it IDed). I have yet not been able to figure why it does it as I retuned the final. I will be watching to see what others might have for suggestions to. Steve - Original Message - From: Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 12:52 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Help / suggestion needed...feedback? on Mitrek I have a UHF repeater built out of a trunk mount Mitrek (Motrek), has CAT 250 controller, 3 can duplexer rated around 300W. Current output is about 23-25W into duplexer. No external amp. Control head is on radio, mic disconnected. Factory tone reed board for RX tone, TS32 for TX tone. Antenna good swr and condition at 150 ft feed with 1 1/4 heliax. 15 amp switching power supply. All controller to radio cabling is done inside the radio with highly sheilded cable with shield grounded to 12- buss inside radio. Controller is in a factory metal rack case. With RX tone ON (in CAT), repeater will key up and start some God awful squawl for about 5 seconds then unkey. Repeater is almost unusable when this happens, continuing to squawl when anyone tries to use it. Squawl continues until squelch tail ends. Sometimes a cycle off / on fixes it. With RX tone OFF (in CAT) the squawl usually only happens when the repeater kys up with voice ID, starting at the second letter of call and ending when ID finishes. Repeater can then be talked on immediately, and usually will function properly (sometimes still does glitch, but only for a second or two. When working properly, has one of the best RF and audio signals I have ever heard on a machine. Suggestions? Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Mobile Micor - T43RTN3190B Need Repairs
If you still need help I am located in Florida but I am 18 miles South of Melbourne. Not sure if you are still having trouble ! I am quite a ways away but if you want to make a day of it to check them then let me know. Steve N4YZA - Original Message - From: Tim Horvath [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:08 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Mobile Micor - T43RTN3190B Need Repairs I have 2 of these units converted for 2 meter repeater use and both have problems. I'm located near Daytona Beach Florida. Is there anyone near this area that repair these radios? #1 unit, has static noise when in transmit with nothing connected (audio, contoller). #2 unit, when it unkeys it pulls about 4 Amps, sometime for 10 seconds or maybe 30 min. as if a relay is sticking?? Any Ideas. I would like to find someone near me to take it to for repair. Thanks, Tim Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor and ICS SingleM Controller
Hi Kevin, Yes I did remove the transistor and go directly to the controller from pin 8 and this seems to work ok. I am going to have to order a new plug and pins for the controller since moving the controller around caused the wires to break off in the connector. I guess I should move this to the ICS group since most of the other stuff I have deals with the Controller. I was aware of the mods that you suggested and while some like the squelch I like there are a few that i prefer not to do. If you on the ICS group then maybe I will see you over there. Again Thanks Steve - Original Message - From: Kevin Custer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor and ICS SingleM Controller Ronnie Steve Rice wrote: I do have the ICS controller connected but added a npn transistor between the squelch shunt and the controller as a follower. I have a voltage swing of 1 to 10 volts with the squelch. I notice that the controller does not respond every time when the squelch breaks and am still looking as to the reason. just stops seeing the voltage swing. I check with a meter and it is swinging fine. No additional transistor is required with the SingleM, and may be part of the problem. Realize that this board was really designed for the Micor Mobile, and a Station COS is generated a bit different. My suggestion is to do the following modification to your Station Audio and Squelch Board so the Micor delivers the Active Low squelch logic that the SingleM is looking for: http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/station-a-s.html Even if all you wanted to do was the COS part of the mod (and not the muting mod) that will be fine. This will effectively give you the same squelch logic as a Micor Mobile, and the SingleM will operate correctly as designed. COS Pot doesn't seem to make much difference where I set it. That pot only controls the Control Receiver COS logic, not the main receiver port. Well let me double check later this evening as I stared at the project so long I was overlooking an obvious diode. Glad you mentioned it sounded like it needed to be converted so I double checked the receiver diode first thing! Thanks Steve That's why I started at the beginning... Please do the AS mod above and drive the controller from pin 8 of the AS board, and all will be fine. After you get it going, consider the following modification for the Unified Chassis: http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/stationmod.html This conversion will even allow you to eliminate the FET you added for enabling the exciter channel element, if you do the mods to the Station Control Module as outlined, plus, have nice controls for desense testing. Kevin Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor and ICS SingleM Controller
Well Kevin I sent some questions to the ICS group but pretty much got all the answers by playing with a touch tone pad and some wires so I could program using the Cntrl input. Messages aren't approved yet so don't show up on the group ! What I found is there are 2 errors on page 10 regarding Pin description on PL1. Pin4 is not audio for the Cntrl Rec(it is gnd according to schematic) and pin 7 which is labeled Cntrl rec cos input(schematic says it is the squelch wiper) . That was for my book that just arrived a week ago. As for the connector I also used a 10 conductor stranded hard drive ribbon cable. I figured it would look nice and neat when in the cage. All my connections are from a blank micor card plugged into the old Squelch/gate slot. I had planned on mounting the controller board to this blank(except for the Mosfet for transmitter on it).. This way I can just pull out the controller and plug original boards in and the repeater should come back on line. All the connections come to the backplane at that point. (Does require removal of the audio jumper wire on the receiver pins.) As far as some of the mods that you linked I meant that some of them I liked and will probably do but some that require major changes I probably would not only because I like the idea of being able to plug any station card in,receiver,etc. and be back up. I will be doing the squelch mod for sure! Not that it is better or not just a different way. I did notice that a resistor was required on the cos input to a+ because when the line card and gate card are out voltage dissappears from the pin 8 of the receiver. The resistor just gives some voltage for the pin 8 to sink on squelch or not. Again the resistor is also on the blank card so when the card is pulled it can revert back to original. ( not that I would) I see where the controller will probably be great for the mobile version! It has the squelch pot and controls right there! I will call digikey this week (well maybe mouser) and order new connectors and pins. I did comment to Brian that they should ship the controller with all the connectors so that no mater what the configuration the connectors would be there. Like when I hook up the tn34 ctcss module. No connector so have to wait until I can order one. Brian said he would send one but also gave me the part number. All in all with your help I do have a repeater ready for testing. Just have to turn off the ID every 5 minutes or so. More reading. Thanks for the suggestions and help and maybe I won't use ribbon cable on the connector next time! Time for me to take a break and watch so TV! Thanks Steve - Original Message - From: Kevin Custer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 7:30 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor and ICS SingleM Controller Stephen Rice wrote: Hi Kevin, Yes I did remove the transistor and go directly to the controller from pin 8 and this seems to work ok. Great. I am going to have to order a new plug and pins for the controller since moving the controller around caused the wires to break off in the connector. What kind of wires are you using? I had one of these controllers tagged into a Micor mobile for testing and literally drug it across the bench, upside down and sideways and didn't have any connector failure, but I used real small stranded wire, and I don't have a crimper; I just use small pliers then solder the connection carefully. If you are using solid wires, consider using stranded. I guess I should move this to the ICS group since most of the other stuff I have deals with the Controller. You can, or we can stay here. I think Brian is still subscribed to this list, but it makes no matter to me. I was aware of the mods that you suggested and while some like the squelch I like there are a few that i prefer not to do. I have read this sentence several times, but I don't understand your intended meaning. Please restate. If you on the ICS group then maybe I will see you over there. Again Thanks Steve I am. Kevin Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
