RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Audio Distorted

2007-01-27 Thread Gary
Use a sinadder on the receiver when you set the frequency. Then swing the
signal generator from side to side to see if the IF is symmetrical. That way
you know that the frequency is set right to center the carrier in the
receiver pass band properly

 

73

Gary  K4FMX

 

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Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Audio Distorted

 

Thanks I gave that some Thoughts before I posted and someone Please correct
me if I am wrong.


The first thing that comes to mind is receiver drifting off frequency.
Try having someone come in at +1 or -1 kHz, and see if they sound 
better.

---Would that also not be on Stronger Signals? ---

If the TX was off, I'd expect your receiver AFC to follow it up to a 
point. But that would be worth checking too.

-Right on  Freq with Counter and Disc Meter -

COULD be an electrolytic in the audio path that isn't much of a cap 
when it gets cold.

Again would that not be noticed on Strong Signals?

 

I did pay a lot for the $50.00 Each Crystals From International. 

 

I do recall yrs ago having a Micor in the trunk in the Cold Winters around
N/W Indiana it sounded off Freq,  but  after a Few Min of Transmitting  it
Warmed up and sounded Great and Again I am talking about the receive , I
think I will temporally put a 100Watt light in the 4 ft cabinet and see if I
still have the Problem 

Thanks Don KA9QJG  

 



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Audio Distorted

2007-01-27 Thread Nate Duehr

On 1/27/07, Don KA9QJG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



-Right on  Freq with Counter and Disc Meter -



The IF chain could be mistuned while the resulting frequency at the end is
correct, causing problems.

I do recall yrs ago having a Micor in the trunk in the Cold Winters around

N/W Indiana it sounded off Freq,  but  after a Few Min of Transmitting  it
Warmed up and sounded Great and Again I am talking about the receive , I
think I will temporally put a 100Watt light in the 4 ft cabinet and see if I
still have the Problem



Only a temporary fix.  Find the real problem.  A properly tuned radio of
this vintage with no other problems will NOT exhibit the behavior you're
describing.  The one in your trunk unfortunately was also not being
maintained properly, either... making you think this is a normal thing for
Micor's.

I respectfully submit that I know a heck of a lot more about MASTR II's than
I do about Micor's, but even with that in mind... It's not normal behavior.
Something's still wrong.  If the light bulb fixes it, at least you'll know
it's temperature-related, and can easily take it to a workbench or on-site
start spraying things with cold spray to find the real problem.

Nate WY0X


RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Audio Distorted

2007-01-27 Thread Eric Lemmon
Perhaps the receive crystal was changed without having the channel element
temperature compensated with it...?

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 

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Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 3:53 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Audio Distorted

On 1/27/07, Don KA9QJG [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

-Right on  Freq with Counter and Disc Meter
-

The IF chain could be mistuned while the resulting frequency at the end is
correct, causing problems.  

I do recall yrs ago having a Micor in the trunk in the Cold Winters
around N/W Indiana it sounded off Freq,  but  after a Few Min of
Transmitting  it Warmed up and sounded Great and Again I am talking about
the receive , I think I will temporally put a 100Watt light in the 4 ft
cabinet and see if I still have the Problem 


Only a temporary fix.  Find the real problem.  A properly tuned radio of
this vintage with no other problems will NOT exhibit the behavior you're
describing.  The one in your trunk unfortunately was also not being
maintained properly, either... making you think this is a normal thing for
Micor's.  

I respectfully submit that I know a heck of a lot more about MASTR II's than
I do about Micor's, but even with that in mind... It's not normal behavior.
Something's still wrong.  If the light bulb fixes it, at least you'll know
it's temperature-related, and can easily take it to a workbench or on-site
start spraying things with cold spray to find the real problem. 


Nate WY0X




RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Audio Distorted

2007-01-26 Thread Don KA9QJG
Thanks I gave that some Thoughts before I posted and someone Please correct
me if I am wrong.


The first thing that comes to mind is receiver drifting off frequency.
Try having someone come in at +1 or -1 kHz, and see if they sound
better.

---Would that also not be on Stronger Signals? ---

If the TX was off, I'd expect your receiver AFC to follow it up to a
point. But that would be worth checking too.

-Right on  Freq with Counter and Disc Meter -

COULD be an electrolytic in the audio path that isn't much of a cap
when it gets cold.

Again would that not be noticed on Strong Signals?



I did pay a lot for the $50.00 Each Crystals From International.



I do recall yrs ago having a Micor in the trunk in the Cold Winters around
N/W Indiana it sounded off Freq,  but  after a Few Min of Transmitting  it
Warmed up and sounded Great and Again I am talking about the receive , I
think I will temporally put a 100Watt light in the 4 ft cabinet and see if I
still have the Problem

Thanks Don KA9QJG