Re: [Repeater-Builder] Moisture/condensation (was: Duplexers)

2010-08-31 Thread N1BUG
Condensation and moisture can be a strange thing...

I have 2 meter and 440 repeaters in my own unheated building on a 
local hill. Several years ago in the middle of a cold Maine winter, 
both repeaters started having assorted audio problems and controller 
glitches. Upon arriving at the site I was horrified to find a thick 
layer of white frost completely covering every surface inside the 
building. Floor, walls, ceiling, every bit of equipment, cables, 
everything pure white and hairy with frost. I scraped away some 
frost and removed the cover from the repeater controller cabinet... 
and was even more horrified to find the controller PCB completely 
covered in frost! Couldn't even recognize the larger individual 
components on the board...

What to do? I VERY slowly brought up the building temperature with a 
temporary heater over a period of a few days. The frost slowly 
vanished, not so much by melting and forming water but by 
dissipating into the air. Everything returned to functioning normally.

The funny thing is, it never happened before or since. Just that one 
time. I never did figure out exactly what conditions caused it.

Paul N1BUG



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Moisture/condensation (was: Duplexers)

2010-08-31 Thread Paul Plack
Wow...sounds like somehow, moisture was released inside the building.

If it's 20ºF outside the building, and 22ºF inside the building, it's hard to 
imagine how frost could form on the equipment, since the relative humidity 
indors would have to be lower, unless...there was water forced up through a 
crack in the floor, etc.

73,
Paul, AE4KR

  - Original Message - 
  From: N1BUG 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 4:52 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Moisture/condensation (was: Duplexers)



  Condensation and moisture can be a strange thing...

  I have 2 meter and 440 repeaters in my own unheated building on a 
  local hill. Several years ago in the middle of a cold Maine winter, 
  both repeaters started having assorted audio problems and controller 
  glitches. Upon arriving at the site I was horrified to find a thick 
  layer of white frost completely covering every surface inside the 
  building. Floor, walls, ceiling, every bit of equipment, cables, 
  everything pure white and hairy with frost. I scraped away some 
  frost and removed the cover from the repeater controller cabinet... 
  and was even more horrified to find the controller PCB completely 
  covered in frost! Couldn't even recognize the larger individual 
  components on the board...

  What to do? I VERY slowly brought up the building temperature with a 
  temporary heater over a period of a few days. The frost slowly 
  vanished, not so much by melting and forming water but by 
  dissipating into the air. Everything returned to functioning normally.

  The funny thing is, it never happened before or since. Just that one 
  time. I never did figure out exactly what conditions caused it.

  Paul N1BUG