[Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola radios and Zetron 37 (reset timers for frozen controllers)

2010-06-24 Thread tracomm
MTR-2000 repeaters are notorious for issues that require a power reset, less 
often with the latest version of firmware, but still require reset, there is a 
service bulletin on this.

CJD


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, skipp025 skipp...@... wrote:
 Re: Motorola radios and Zetron 37  
 (reset timers for frozen controllers)
 
   tracomm tracomm@ wrote:
   This is a regular issue with many controllers, especially Trident
   Raiders  several Comm Spec units, and Motorola MTR-2000 repeaters.
 
 I have yet to find any type of relatively complex software driven 
 uP in controller operation that didn't freeze or fart (lock) up at 
 some point in time. One would hope the mfgr hopefully included some 
 type of dead-man or equivalent software-hardware reset timer. 
  
   Years ago Comm Spec supplied a small board that reset power 
   to the controller to eliminate the problem.
 
 For the TP-3200 Tone/DCS Panel... and they were smart/nice enough 
 to provide the timer daughter-board as a free retrofit. 
 
   We installed power reset modules on all our repeaters, every 
   24 hours,
 
 The Comm Spec supplied timer cycled more frequent. 
 
   power is reset to the entire repeater, usually about 3:00 am.
 
 Is/was there any reason to cycle power to other portions of the 
 repeater hardware? 
 
 
  Joel ag4qc@ wrote:
  We have 2 repeaters that are more or less the same. One is 
  on 2 meters and the other is on 440.  They both exhibit the 
  same problem, they lockup after a while and then need to be 
  power cycled. 
 
 Q: The repeater hardware (radios)? the Zetron Controller? both? 
 Did/do you test to find out what is locked up (not working)? 
 
  They ran for years without issue.
  We have the Instruction manual for the Zentron controller, but 
  nothing on the radios. 
  Joe Loucka -- AG4QC
 
 You shouldn't need much in the way of manuals to do the basic go, 
 no-go testing.  A received signal should indicate on both the RX 
 Radio and the Zetron front panels.  The Zetron should indicate 
 valid tone/dcs codes and the Tx activity should be indicated on 
 both the Zetron and TX Radio front panels. 
 
 Step two depends on the answer(s) to the above question. 
 
 s.





[Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola radios and Zetron 37 (reset timers for frozen controllers)

2010-06-23 Thread skipp025


Re: Motorola radios and Zetron 37  
(reset timers for frozen controllers)

  tracomm trac...@... wrote:
  This is a regular issue with many controllers, especially Trident
  Raiders  several Comm Spec units, and Motorola MTR-2000 repeaters.

I have yet to find any type of relatively complex software driven 
uP in controller operation that didn't freeze or fart (lock) up at 
some point in time. One would hope the mfgr hopefully included some 
type of dead-man or equivalent software-hardware reset timer. 
 
  Years ago Comm Spec supplied a small board that reset power 
  to the controller to eliminate the problem.

For the TP-3200 Tone/DCS Panel... and they were smart/nice enough 
to provide the timer daughter-board as a free retrofit. 

  We installed power reset modules on all our repeaters, every 
  24 hours,

The Comm Spec supplied timer cycled more frequent. 

  power is reset to the entire repeater, usually about 3:00 am.

Is/was there any reason to cycle power to other portions of the 
repeater hardware? 


 Joel ag4qc@ wrote:
 We have 2 repeaters that are more or less the same. One is 
 on 2 meters and the other is on 440.  They both exhibit the 
 same problem, they lockup after a while and then need to be 
 power cycled. 

Q: The repeater hardware (radios)? the Zetron Controller? both? 
Did/do you test to find out what is locked up (not working)? 

 They ran for years without issue.
 We have the Instruction manual for the Zentron controller, but 
 nothing on the radios. 
 Joe Loucka -- AG4QC

You shouldn't need much in the way of manuals to do the basic go, 
no-go testing.  A received signal should indicate on both the RX 
Radio and the Zetron front panels.  The Zetron should indicate 
valid tone/dcs codes and the Tx activity should be indicated on 
both the Zetron and TX Radio front panels. 

Step two depends on the answer(s) to the above question. 

s.