Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Can the 4th harmonic of 1250 AM keep UHF repeaters locked up?

2010-02-24 Thread Nate Duehr
On 2/23/2010 3:11 PM, Jim WB5OXQ inb Waco, TX wrote: Is it possible the AM signal is getting into an audio stage instead of the receiver front end? I had that happen once. Same here. All audio inteconnects are now tiny coax cables at that site now, installed with shield grounded at ONE

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Can the 4th harmonic of 1250 AM keep UHF repeaters locked up?

2010-02-24 Thread Jeff DePolo
On 2/23/2010 3:11 PM, Jim WB5OXQ inb Waco, TX wrote: Is it possible the AM signal is getting into an audio stage instead of the receiver front end? I had that happen once. Same here. All audio inteconnects are now tiny coax cables at that site now, installed with shield

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Can the 4th harmonic of 1250 AM keep UHF repeaters locked up?

2010-02-24 Thread KT9AC
If it was just audio then there would be no feedback of the PL/DPL tones, keeping the repeater locked up. Good advice though. Jeff DePolo wrote: On 2/23/2010 3:11 PM, Jim WB5OXQ inb Waco, TX wrote: Is it possible the AM signal is getting into an audio stage instead of the receiver

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Can the 4th harmonic of 1250 AM keep UHF repeaters locked up?

2010-02-24 Thread Gary Schafer
...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of KT9AC Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 4:42 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Can the 4th harmonic of 1250 AM keep UHF repeaters locked up? If it was just audio then there would be no feedback of the PL/DPL tones

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Can the 4th harmonic of 1250 AM keep UHF repeaters locked up?

2010-02-24 Thread no6b
At 2/23/2010 17:16, you wrote: Mark et al, Yes, this repeater is using the Motorola T1500 series bandpass cavities (two each for rx and tx). I've tried running rx and tx both duplex and seperate (borrowing a nearby antenna with permission). I can hear the interference underneath my signal when I'm

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Can the 4th harmonic of 1250 AM keep UHF repeaters locked up?

2010-02-23 Thread KT9AC
I was able to match up the audio coming through the repeater and the local AM station. My latest theory is that their signal is so strong that its blowing into the receiver's front end and multiplying/mixing there (past the bandpass filters and all). They are heterodyne receivers after all.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Can the 4th harmonic of 1250 AM keep UHF repeaters locked up?

2010-02-23 Thread Jim WB5OXQ inb Waco, TX
: Can the 4th harmonic of 1250 AM keep UHF repeaters locked up? I was able to match up the audio coming through the repeater and the local AM station. My latest theory is that their signal is so strong that its blowing into the receiver's front end and multiplying/mixing there (past the bandpass

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Can the 4th harmonic of 1250 AM keep UHF repeaters locked up?

2010-02-23 Thread Jeff DePolo
I'm considering an ICE broadcast high-pass filter that cuts off at 1.8Mhz (model 402). I have an email into them to see how well it might work at 448 Mhz. Tony Before you spend any real money, you might just try a shorted quarterwave stub. If you want, I can make one up quick and see

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Can the 4th harmonic of 1250 AM keep UHF repeaters locked up?

2010-02-23 Thread DCFluX
How about 1.25 MHz RF coming down the outer jacket of the UHF antenna and into the ground of the system? You have about 200 ft or so of coax? Try a mag mount antenna temporarily. Not really sure how you'd cure that though. Not sure if snap on RF beads would work on coax with a signal going in

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Can the 4th harmonic of 1250 AM keep UHF repeaters locked up?

2010-02-23 Thread Mark HARRISON
Of DCFluX Sent: Wednesday, 24 February 2010 09:35 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Can the 4th harmonic of 1250 AM keep UHF repeaters locked up? How about 1.25 MHz RF coming down the outer jacket of the UHF antenna and into the ground of the system? You

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Can the 4th harmonic of 1250 AM keep UHF repeaters locked up?

2010-02-23 Thread Mark HARRISON
Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of KT9AC Sent: Wednesday, 24 February 2010 09:02 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Can the 4th harmonic of 1250 AM keep UHF repeaters locked up? I

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Can the 4th harmonic of 1250 AM keep UHF repeaters locked up?

2010-02-23 Thread KT9AC
If you wouldn't mind...that would be interesting to see how it works. DCFluX wrote: How about 1.25 MHz RF coming down the outer jacket of the UHF antenna and into the ground of the system? You have about 200 ft or so of coax? Try a mag mount antenna temporarily. Not really sure how you'd

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Can the 4th harmonic of 1250 AM keep UHF repeaters locked up?

2010-02-23 Thread KT9AC
%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Can the 4th harmonic of 1250 AM keep UHF repeaters locked up? I was able to match up the audio coming through the repeater and the local AM station. My latest theory is that their signal is so strong that its blowing into the receiver's

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Can the 4th harmonic of 1250 AM keep UHF repeaters locked up?

2010-02-23 Thread daniel haines
How long is your feed line? Do you have any toriods on your feed line, where it comes in your shack? To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: kt...@ameritech.net Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 16:01:45 -0600 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Can the 4th harmonic of 1250 AM keep UHF

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Can the 4th harmonic of 1250 AM keep UHF repeaters locked up?

2010-02-22 Thread Chuck Kelsey
@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:41 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Can the 4th harmonic of 1250 AM keep UHF repeaters locked up? Had a similiar situation at our site, a station on 106.7 MHz, music on hang time on many repeaters, intermod runs gave no clue to reason, did all