RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band

2010-03-05 Thread David Jordan
...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Walter H Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 4:34 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band And what happens if they deploy it in a municipality where there's a 4.9 GHz mesh network [like Phoenix, AZ

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band

2010-03-04 Thread George Henry
@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 10:40:10 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band   180455347338 Just sent some pointed questions to the seller. Hope this is NOT the device. --- In Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com, DCFluX dcf...@... wrote: Got

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band

2010-03-04 Thread David Jordan
@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band That IS the item... ReconRobotics' website has the disclaimer that the device has not received FCC authorization may not be sold.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band

2010-03-04 Thread MCH
:44 PM *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band That IS the item... ReconRobotics' website has the disclaimer that the device has not received FCC authorization may not be sold

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band

2010-03-04 Thread David Jordan
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band What are you missing? The fact that it should be in bands where TV is authorized, and not in a band where it will be subject to random instances of interference from a service that has

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band

2010-03-04 Thread Richard
...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Jordan Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 10:55 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band I just read the FCC order.I don't see a significant threat to amateur radio UHF

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band

2010-03-04 Thread David Jordan
] On Behalf Of Richard Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 2:15 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band In my view this opens the door to other encroachments on our frequency allocations.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band

2010-03-04 Thread MCH
The premise is common sense, but, as you say, this is the government. Where would *you* put TV transmitters if not in the TV bands? Joe M. David Jordan wrote: I don't think there is any premise or as you say, ...fact that it should be in the bands where TV is authorized... is relevant.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band

2010-03-04 Thread Michael Ryan
@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band Richard, The FCC has always had that option to re-assign spectrum.you use the term our frequency which implies you think we have some implied rights to utilize the spectrum. We have no rights, just

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band

2010-03-04 Thread wd8chl
On 3/4/2010 1:54 PM, David Jordan wrote: I just read the FCC order.I don't see a significant threat to amateur radio UHF communications from this device. It's operating on a ham band at more than flea power-maybe as much as several watts. How can it NOT interfere? Trust me, it WILL! It

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band

2010-03-04 Thread David Jordan
] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band The premise is common sense, but, as you say, this is the government. Where would *you* put TV transmitters if not in the TV bands? Joe M. David Jordan wrote: I don't think there is any premise or as you say, ...fact that it should

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band

2010-03-04 Thread David Jordan
I'm an HFer.Interference doesn't bother me ;-) _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wd8chl Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 2:53 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band

2010-03-04 Thread David Struebel
: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band Dave, You speak exactly what I would have said here. I recall the same angst and irritation when the lower end of 220 was lost to United Parcel Service and other entities if there were any. That turned out to be much

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band

2010-03-04 Thread DCFluX
2.4 GHz, there are numorous TV transmitters already designed that operate here, 2 of the 4 channels common channels fall on the ham band and are often converted for ATV use. On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 12:42 PM, MCH m...@nb.net wrote: The premise is common sense, but, as you say, this is the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band

2010-03-04 Thread MCH
It suffices to say there are lots of good answers, and none of them are the 440 band. And, there is obviously existing spectrum for these devices, so their waiver should have never been granted. As far as the eBay auction, there ARE legal users of these devices - US! (hams) I can see it now -

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band

2010-03-04 Thread Kris Kirby
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, David Jordan wrote: My guess is the manufacturer doesn?t have the technology or funding needed to build the cheaply made, significantly over priced crawling camera to operate in the GHz ranges. My bet is that the manufacturer got a deal on some 433MHz camera modules from

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band

2010-03-04 Thread WA3GIN
@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 4:45 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, David Jordan wrote: My guess is the manufacturer doesn?t have the technology or funding needed to build the cheaply made

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band

2010-03-04 Thread Nate Duehr
On 3/4/2010 11:54 AM, David Jordan wrote: What am I missing? That there are other bands specifically set aside for this business purpose, perhaps? :-) Nate WY0X

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band

2010-03-04 Thread Nate Duehr
On 3/4/2010 1:58 PM, David Jordan wrote: I'm an HFer...Interference doesn't bother me ;-) We'll notify your local power company that they can fire up BPL on your block, effective immediately. :-) (GRIN!) Nate WY0X

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band

2010-03-04 Thread no6b
At 3/4/2010 13:45, you wrote: It suffices to say there are lots of good answers, and none of them are the 440 band. And, there is obviously existing spectrum for these devices, so their waiver should have never been granted. As far as the eBay auction, there ARE legal users of these devices - US!

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band

2010-03-04 Thread WA3GIN
, 2010 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band On 3/4/2010 1:58 PM, David Jordan wrote: I'm an HFer.Interference doesn't bother me ;-) We'll notify your local power company that they can fire up BPL on your block, effective immediately

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band

2010-03-04 Thread Don Kupferschmidt
Not to mention the local CB'ers running a killowatt near your home! LOL! Don, KD9PT - Original Message - From: Nate Duehr To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 5:18 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band

2010-03-04 Thread no6b
At 3/4/2010 13:45, you wrote: Doesn't matter; the legal world is ruled by precedents. This sets an unhealthy one. And NTIA/Military has spoken up on the matter -- did you see the section in the order where the device would not be operated within so many miles of several AFBs, which are known to

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band

2010-03-04 Thread DCFluX
Until they start bringing up ATV repeaters, The common input frequencies are 439.25, 434.0, 433.25, 427.25 and 421.25. Now, see the channel assignments for the analog video?  Since the video carrier is 1.25 MHz above the bottom of each channel, we can predict where most of the energy is going

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band

2010-03-04 Thread David Struebel
: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band Laryn and others, Here is the link to the RO #08-63 . Please notice the dates on this-it was in 2008... I do not think that the FCC should grant this at all, but we need to let our representatives know both at the ARRL

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band

2010-03-04 Thread Richard
...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Struebel Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 7:31 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band Regarding the orginal RO, does anyone have access to the comments that were received by the FCC

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band

2010-03-03 Thread Richard
...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of larynl2 Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 1:48 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band Anyone have a real link to this? Those of us on the Web do not get attachments... Laryn K8TVZ --- In Repeater

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band

2010-03-03 Thread DCFluX
Got the auction number? On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:30 PM, wa1nh wa...@arrl.net wrote: UMM.. Was just perusing eBay.  Guess what I found Search on Recon Scout in cameras an photos! Is this the same device? So much for part 90 licensing. Jason, WA1NH --- In

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band

2010-03-03 Thread ka9qjg
Well if this is it I had guessed on the Price But close I will Get that little Sucker with My 440 HT http://tinyurl.com/yeyccyk Who will be the First do get the WARA Award Worked all Robot Award 73 De Don KA9QJG Got the auction number? On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:30 PM,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band

2010-03-03 Thread DCFluX
On that note I should point out that most explosives devices don't like being exposed to RF. And AM NTSC video tends to get into a bunch of stuff with the sync pulses. I think this warning appears in most mobile radio manuals and is posted around blasting sites. On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 10:12 PM,