Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Circular polarization for VHF repeaters?

2010-09-05 Thread no6b
At 9/5/2010 08:23, you wrote: In my experience, cross-polarized antenna systems (those with simultaneous in-phase vertical and horizontal components) Isn't that just diagonal polarization? You can't have multiple linear polarization orientations; that's the whole point of circular

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Circular polarization for VHF repeaters?

2010-09-04 Thread Jeff DePolo
It looks like the FCC rules give you extra power when opting for dual polarization. No, they don't give you extra power. For commercial stations, horizontal polarization is the standard. You can supplement it with vertical, either as cross-polarized linear, or as elliptial/circular, but that

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Circular polarization for VHF repeaters?

2010-09-03 Thread Mark
Gary, Once you get it figured out, PLEASE write up an article for Repeater-Builder for the rest of us!! Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Gary - K7EK Thanks to all that replied. I appreciate your input. I'm still looking for answers,

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Circular polarization for VHF repeaters?

2010-09-03 Thread Kris Kirby
On Fri, 3 Sep 2010, Mark wrote: Once you get it figured out, PLEASE write up an article for Repeater-Builder for the rest of us!! Make an X with dipole elements, and connect the feed harness to one side, and connect the left and right sides together with 1/4-wavelength of coax, wire, or

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Circular polarization for VHF repeaters?

2010-09-03 Thread Kris Kirby
On Fri, 3 Sep 2010, Kris Kirby wrote: Once you get it figured out, PLEASE write up an article for Repeater-Builder for the rest of us!! Make an X with dipole elements, and connect the feed harness to one side, and connect the left and right sides together with 1/4-wavelength of coax,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Circular polarization for VHF repeaters?

2010-09-02 Thread DCFluX
FM Broadcast started out Horizontally polarized. Circular polarization was later authorized under 2 stipulations. The vertical plane power can not exceed the horizontal power ERP, and the horizontal plane ERP is used for the stations ERP. So a station with a horizontal antenna can effectively

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Circular polarization for VHF repeaters?

2010-09-02 Thread Gordon Cooper
HI to all, I guess that I do not have much to contribute on this thread but to me it is very interesting reading. Gary has my sympathy, his problem is duplicated here. Much of my repeater work relates to a low power portable repeater on 141 MHz. We live near a medium sized mountain

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Circular polarization for VHF repeaters?

2010-09-02 Thread Paul Plack
: Circular polarization for VHF repeaters? Our repeater runs 5 watts output, needs to run three or four days off a gelcell, and most importantly has to fit into a backpack to be carried to a convenient hilltop. Fortunately, the split is 3 MHz so that the duplexer is of a reasonable size

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Circular polarization for VHF repeaters?

2010-09-02 Thread Chuck Kelsey
] Re: Circular polarization for VHF repeaters? It looks like the FCC rules give you extra power when opting for dual polarization. Doesn't mean the circular antenna contributes to extra coverage, in fact it looks like the extra RF power allowed for the two polarities is giving you more

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Circular polarization for VHF repeaters?

2010-09-02 Thread Mike Morris
to be crossband, but worth a shot. 73, Paul, AE4KR - Original Message - From: mailto:zl...@nzart.org.nzGordon Cooper To: mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 1:51 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Circular polarization

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Circular polarization for VHF repeaters?

2010-09-02 Thread Kris Kirby
On Thu, 2 Sep 2010, Gordon Cooper wrote: I guess that I do not have much to contribute on this thread but to me it is very interesting reading. Gary has my sympathy, his problem is duplicated here. Much of my repeater work relates to a low power portable repeater on 141 MHz. We

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Circular polarization for VHF repeaters?

2010-09-02 Thread Kris Kirby
On Thu, 2 Sep 2010, Paul Plack wrote: Gordon, something worth trying might be low-band. About 20 years ago, I lived in an area where hams did course communications for rally events in very mountainous terrain. I remember experimenting one night about 2am with my partner at the other end of

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Circular polarization for VHF repeaters?

2010-09-02 Thread Eric Lemmon
coverage. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sbjohns...@aol.com Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 6:48 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Circular

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Circular polarization for VHF repeaters?

2010-09-02 Thread Kris Kirby
On Fri, 3 Sep 2010, Gary - K7EK wrote: Thanks to all that replied. I appreciate your input. I'm still looking for answers, but may be onto something. I have emailed Bill Pasternak, the author of that Cushcraft 4-pole conversion article. I re-read his original article and may have figured

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Circular polarization for VHF repeaters?

2010-09-01 Thread petedcurtis
Hi, I remembered circular polarization was used for FM broadcast due to FM car radios, but when I looked it up I found out some interesting facts, see the link below,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Circular polarization for VHF repeaters?

2010-09-01 Thread JOHN MACKEY
To: Repeater-Builder Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Circular polarization for VHF repeaters? Hi, I remembered circular polarization was used for FM broadcast due to FM car radios, but when I looked it up I found out some interesting facts, see the link below