RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10 and RICK
Quite a number of years ago, I knew of an FCC inspection of a repeater site in southern California - apparently the inspector didn't know what he was looking at. As the story went, he removed the output of the exciter to measure the RF power there ... The exciter consisted of a rack mounted Motorola U44BBT. I don't remember the rest of the story but the system owner got cited for excessive deviation - was running +/- 10 kHz or so. This was in the amateur band ... before most of the systems had gone to +/- 5 kHz. Neil - WA6KLA Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10 and RICK Date: Sun, 28 May 2006 16:10:36 - I know a lot of you guys dance and sing the Type Accepted or Certificated requirement, but in the real world it's mostly a popcorn fart. If the FCC should ever come to inspect your radio site, most any radio type properly operating is not going to be on their list of things to worry about. They are probably not going to be asking you to remove radios from repeater racks to ensure they are currently type accepted. It's the responsibility of the equipment owner operator to ensure the equipment operates without causing problems. If there are no reported problems you will probably never see or hear from the FCC. If you use an M10 for a GMRS Repeater Tx, chances are it will not be a real problem in 99.7% of the cases. An inspector will be more interested in a current license for the frequencies and power levels used. cheers, skipp sgreact47 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry but the M10 transmitter is NOT type F. C. C. accepted or certificated for use as a repeater in the GMRS. N6YV jsluchak@ wrote: Greetings to the group. I want to construct a quick GMRS repeater with two Radius m10 radios and a Rick unit snip Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10 and RICK
The technical requirements for a transmitter useable for GMRS service ARE: 1. FCC part 95 type acceptance. 2. Transmitter frequency stability of .00025% To check if the equipment you want to use meets the technical specifications for use as a GMRS repeater transmitter. Use the FCC ID number on the transmitter equipment and search at this link: https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/cf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm?calledFr omFrame=N The information on how to setup the Rick and the radios can be found on the repeater builder web site, possibly the batwings site, And most assuredly someone on this list that has set one up will respond with helpful information. I have not used a Rick but have built and serviced may GMRS repeaters. I wanted to make the original poster had the proper information regarding the equipment he wanted to use. Kevin King SCSA BSCIS ARS KC6OVD GMRS KAG0378 EIEIO 2722 Acworth Georgia -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of sgreact47 Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 3:49 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10 and RICK N6YV jsluchak@ wrote: Greetings to the group. I want to construct a quick GMRS repeater with two Radius m10 radios and a Rick unit snip Sorry but the M10 transmitter is NOT type F. C. C. accepted or certificated for use as a repeater in the GMRS. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10 and RICK
1190 total radios with Part 95 listing. Neat listing. I asked for this info 4 times on the GMRS list before and no one could or would mention this. Thanks! Kevin King wrote: The technical requirements for a transmitter useable for GMRS service ARE: 1. FCC part 95 type acceptance. 2. Transmitter frequency stability of .00025% To check if the equipment you want to use meets the technical specifications for use as a GMRS repeater transmitter. Use the FCC ID number on the transmitter equipment and search at this link: https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/cf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm?calledFr omFrame=N The information on how to setup the Rick and the radios can be found on the repeater builder web site, possibly the batwings site, And most assuredly someone on this list that has set one up will respond with helpful information. I have not used a Rick but have built and serviced may GMRS repeaters. I wanted to make the original poster had the proper information regarding the equipment he wanted to use. Kevin King SCSA BSCIS ARS KC6OVD GMRS KAG0378 EIEIO 2722 Acworth Georgia -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of sgreact47 Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 3:49 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10 and RICK N6YV jsluchak@ wrote: Greetings to the group. I want to construct a quick GMRS repeater with two Radius m10 radios and a Rick unit snip Sorry but the M10 transmitter is NOT type F. C. C. accepted or certificated for use as a repeater in the GMRS. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10 and RICK
Does that 0.00025% apply to mobiles as well? Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10 and RICK Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 09:11:43 -0400 The technical requirements for a transmitter useable for GMRS service ARE: 1. FCC part 95 type acceptance. 2. Transmitter frequency stability of .00025% To check if the equipment you want to use meets the technical specifications for use as a GMRS repeater transmitter. Use the FCC ID number on the transmitter equipment and search at this link: https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/cf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm?c alledFr omFrame=N The information on how to setup the Rick and the radios can be found on the repeater builder web site, possibly the batwings site, And most assuredly someone on this list that has set one up will respond with helpful information. I have not used a Rick but have built and serviced may GMRS repeaters. I wanted to make the original poster had the proper information regarding the equipment he wanted to use. Kevin King SCSA BSCIS ARS KC6OVD GMRS KAG0378 EIEIO 2722 Acworth Georgia -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of sgreact47 Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 3:49 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10 and RICK N6YV jsluchak@ wrote: Greetings to the group. I want to construct a quick GMRS repeater with two Radius m10 radios and a Rick unit snip Sorry but the M10 transmitter is NOT type F. C. C. accepted or certificated for use as a repeater in the GMRS. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10 and RICK
mobiles are .0005% Kevin King SCSA BSCIS ARS KC6OVD GMRS KAG0378 EIEIO 2722 Acworth Georgia -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 10:50 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10 and RICK Does that 0.00025% apply to mobiles as well? Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10 and RICK Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 09:11:43 -0400 The technical requirements for a transmitter useable for GMRS service ARE: 1. FCC part 95 type acceptance. 2. Transmitter frequency stability of .00025% To check if the equipment you want to use meets the technical specifications for use as a GMRS repeater transmitter. Use the FCC ID number on the transmitter equipment and search at this link: https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/cf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm?c alledFr omFrame=N The information on how to setup the Rick and the radios can be found on the repeater builder web site, possibly the batwings site, And most assuredly someone on this list that has set one up will respond with helpful information. I have not used a Rick but have built and serviced may GMRS repeaters. I wanted to make the original poster had the proper information regarding the equipment he wanted to use. Kevin King SCSA BSCIS ARS KC6OVD GMRS KAG0378 EIEIO 2722 Acworth Georgia -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of sgreact47 Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 3:49 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10 and RICK N6YV jsluchak@ wrote: Greetings to the group. I want to construct a quick GMRS repeater with two Radius m10 radios and a Rick unit snip Sorry but the M10 transmitter is NOT type F. C. C. accepted or certificated for use as a repeater in the GMRS. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10 and RICK
That's what I thought ... after someone stated all GMRS transmitters must be 0.00025% tolerance ... Thanks, Neil - WA6KLA Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10 and RICK Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 13:44:10 -0400 mobiles are .0005% Kevin King SCSA BSCIS ARS KC6OVD GMRS KAG0378 EIEIO 2722 Acworth Georgia -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 10:50 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10 and RICK Does that 0.00025% apply to mobiles as well? Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10 and RICK Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 09:11:43 -0400 The technical requirements for a transmitter useable for GMRS service ARE: 1. FCC part 95 type acceptance. 2. Transmitter frequency stability of .00025% To check if the equipment you want to use meets the technical specifications for use as a GMRS repeater transmitter. Use the FCC ID number on the transmitter equipment and search at this link: https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/cf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm? c alledFr omFrame=N The information on how to setup the Rick and the radios can be found on the repeater builder web site, possibly the batwings site, And most assuredly someone on this list that has set one up will respond with helpful information. I have not used a Rick but have built and serviced may GMRS repeaters. I wanted to make the original poster had the proper information regarding the equipment he wanted to use. Kevin King SCSA BSCIS ARS KC6OVD GMRS KAG0378 EIEIO 2722 Acworth Georgia -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of sgreact47 Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 3:49 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10 and RICK N6YV jsluchak@ wrote: Greetings to the group. I want to construct a quick GMRS repeater with two Radius m10 radios and a Rick unit snip Sorry but the M10 transmitter is NOT type F. C. C. accepted or certificated for use as a repeater in the GMRS. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10 and RICK
If you search for .00025 on the part 95 doc at the fcc site you will find the info in black and white. Kevin King SCSA BSCIS ARS KC6OVD GMRS KAG0378 EIEIO 2722 Acworth Georgia -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 3:09 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10 and RICK That's what I thought ... after someone stated all GMRS transmitters must be 0.00025% tolerance ... Thanks, Neil - WA6KLA Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10 and RICK Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 13:44:10 -0400 mobiles are .0005% Kevin King SCSA BSCIS ARS KC6OVD GMRS KAG0378 EIEIO 2722 Acworth Georgia -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 10:50 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10 and RICK Does that 0.00025% apply to mobiles as well? Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10 and RICK Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 09:11:43 -0400 The technical requirements for a transmitter useable for GMRS service ARE: 1. FCC part 95 type acceptance. 2. Transmitter frequency stability of .00025% To check if the equipment you want to use meets the technical specifications for use as a GMRS repeater transmitter. Use the FCC ID number on the transmitter equipment and search at this link: https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/cf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm? c alledFr omFrame=N The information on how to setup the Rick and the radios can be found on the repeater builder web site, possibly the batwings site, And most assuredly someone on this list that has set one up will respond with helpful information. I have not used a Rick but have built and serviced may GMRS repeaters. I wanted to make the original poster had the proper information regarding the equipment he wanted to use. Kevin King SCSA BSCIS ARS KC6OVD GMRS KAG0378 EIEIO 2722 Acworth Georgia -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of sgreact47 Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 3:49 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick GMRS repeater w/ Radius m10 and RICK N6YV jsluchak@ wrote: Greetings to the group. I want to construct a quick GMRS repeater with two Radius m10 radios and a Rick unit snip Sorry but the M10 transmitter is NOT type F. C. C. accepted or certificated for use as a repeater in the GMRS. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/