Re: [Reproducible-builds] Building packages in the *past* (!!)

2015-09-30 Thread Chris Lamb
> I would not find it unreasonable if a build would fail if some of the > software that is run either during compilation or testing stages detects > that some of the files they are working on have a timestamp from the future. I didn't consider the mtime case carefully enough. I agree with you. (I

Re: [Reproducible-builds] Building packages in the *past* (!!)

2015-09-30 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 12:25:10PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > it has been reverted. Thanks a lot. Would there be an easy way to discard all the tests which have been made with a timestamp in the past? I guess nearly 100% of them are going to be false positives (I first noticed about this in a

Re: [Reproducible-builds] Building packages in the *past* (!!)

2015-09-30 Thread Johannes Schauer
Hi, Quoting Chris Lamb (2015-09-30 11:57:20) > > There is a minimum of sanity that we should assume on the autobuilders, > > Agree in principle.. > > > namely, that packages are built on a date which is later than the one > > in the last changelog entry. > > .. but why should this matter? In fa

Re: [Reproducible-builds] Building packages in the *past* (!!)

2015-09-30 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, thanks for bringing this up here. it has been reverted. building in the past is just easier than in the futureā€¦ thats why. cheers, Holger, with fever signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Reproducible-b

Re: [Reproducible-builds] Building packages in the *past* (!!)

2015-09-30 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 10:57:20AM +0100, Chris Lamb wrote: > > There is a minimum of sanity that we should assume on the autobuilders, > > Agree in principle.. > > > namely, that packages are built on a date which is later than the one > > in the last changelog entry. > > .. but why should this

Re: [Reproducible-builds] Building packages in the *past* (!!)

2015-09-30 Thread Chris Lamb
> There is a minimum of sanity that we should assume on the autobuilders, Agree in principle.. > namely, that packages are built on a date which is later than the one > in the last changelog entry. .. but why should this matter? In fact, there's a fairly strong argument to be made that if the pa

[Reproducible-builds] Building packages in the *past* (!!)

2015-09-30 Thread Santiago Vila
Hi. Are we building packages in the *past* now?: https://reproducible.debian.net/rb-pkg/unstable/amd64/base-files.html There is a minimum of sanity that we should assume on the autobuilders, namely, that packages are built on a date which is later than the one in the last changelog entry. So pl