[Reproducible-builds] Build environment changes between build1 and build2

2015-10-08 Thread Santiago Vila
Hi. I've seen several cases where a package is considered not reproducible just because the build environment changed between build1 and build2. It would be great if, by design, this did never happen, but I understand this will not be easy to implement. However, I can think of some workarounds:

Re: [Reproducible-builds] Build environment changes between build1 and build2

2015-10-08 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Donnerstag, 8. Oktober 2015, Santiago Vila wrote: > If we are unable to reproduce the environment to begin with, i.e. if > we don't even give the package the opportunity to show that it's > reproducible, then it is not the package's fault, and I see no reason > to mark it as

Re: [Reproducible-builds] Build environment changes between build1 and build2

2015-10-08 Thread Holger Levsen
On Donnerstag, 8. Oktober 2015, Holger Levsen wrote: > btw, the build results today are also still broken: seems I've fixed this by now. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Reproducible-builds mailing list

Re: [Reproducible-builds] Build environment changes between build1 and build2

2015-10-08 Thread Santiago Vila
On Thu, Oct 08, 2015 at 03:25:38PM +, Santiago Vila wrote: > under the "same" environment (build-depends) Sorry, I really meant "installed packages and their versions" here. ___ Reproducible-builds mailing list

Re: [Reproducible-builds] Build environment changes between build1 and build2

2015-10-08 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Donnerstag, 8. Oktober 2015, Santiago Vila wrote: > I've seen several cases where a package is considered not reproducible > just because the build environment changed between build1 and build2. this should not happen… end of the story. If it happens, its a bug in the CI. and today it

Re: [Reproducible-builds] Build environment changes between build1 and build2

2015-10-08 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
On Thu, Oct 08, 2015 at 04:55:35PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi, > > On Donnerstag, 8. Oktober 2015, Santiago Vila wrote: > > I've seen several cases where a package is considered not reproducible > > just because the build environment changed between build1 and build2. > > this should not

Re: [Reproducible-builds] Build environment changes between build1 and build2

2015-10-08 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, btw, the build results today are also still broken: context: https://reproducible.debian.net/unstable/amd64/sagasu [16:23] < h01ger> | something looks very fishy here [16:24] < h01ger> | but i dont get what [16:25] < h01ger> | the diffoscope diff of the unreproducible builds

Re: [Reproducible-builds] Build environment changes between build1 and build2

2015-10-08 Thread Santiago Vila
On Thu, Oct 08, 2015 at 03:01:34PM +, Mattia Rizzolo wrote: > If that fields differs again [...] it just gives up and mark the > package as unreproducible The last item (mark as unreproducible) does not seem right to me. A package is said to be reproducible when you build it two times under