Re: broken DDPO by not-so-broken reproducible-tracker.json

2016-11-10 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Thu, Nov 03, 2016 at 05:47:17PM +, Mattia Rizzolo wrote: > This thread doesn't seem to make progress, anyway: (it was still on my to-reply list…) > On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 09:54:39PM +, Mattia Rizzolo wrote: > > 4. figure out why the hell DDPO doesn't deal with that edit in the j

Re: broken DDPO by not-so-broken reproducible-tracker.json

2016-11-03 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
This thread doesn't seem to make progress, anyway: On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 09:54:39PM +, Mattia Rizzolo wrote: > 4. figure out why the hell DDPO doesn't deal with that edit in the json, >see the code⁵ in Debian's QA Team SVN repo, and leave the json to >display testing data as it is no

Re: broken DDPO by not-so-broken reproducible-tracker.json

2016-10-19 Thread Holger Levsen
On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 03:38:29PM +0100, Chris Lamb wrote: > (Just out of interest, are the same infrastucture, etc. filters used for > the opt-in "reproducible → unreproducible" emails we send out?) no. there the assumption is: the maintainers wants to be notified about changes. we just send ou

Re: broken DDPO by not-so-broken reproducible-tracker.json

2016-10-19 Thread Chris Lamb
Stuart Prescott wrote: > > I read a really good book once that made a very convincing argument that > > dashboards and metrics become subtly undermined once you introduce > > exceptions or you make them even slightly opaque. > > By way of contrast, warnings on my maintainer dashboard should be ac

Re: broken DDPO by not-so-broken reproducible-tracker.json

2016-10-19 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 10:09:29PM +1100, Stuart Prescott wrote: > (There's also a 5th option -- include the build-path in the definition of > the build environment in the same way as the version of the compiler and > various other bits of the build environment are mandated. Then there's > nothi

Re: broken DDPO by not-so-broken reproducible-tracker.json

2016-10-19 Thread Stuart Prescott
>> 2. revert to unstable, but filter out packages tagged >>captures_build_path and friends (DDPO/tracker will just show no data >>about those packages) > > I read a really good book once that made a very convincing argument that > dashboards and metrics become subtly undermined once you in

Re: broken DDPO by not-so-broken reproducible-tracker.json

2016-10-19 Thread Holger Levsen
On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 09:51:24AM +0100, Chris Lamb wrote: > That, combined with my preference for simplicity, would actually make me > advocate for no filtering whatsoever (!) I'm strongly against pushing _noise_ to 25% of our package maintainers. -- cheers, Holger signature.asc Des

Re: broken DDPO by not-so-broken reproducible-tracker.json

2016-10-19 Thread Chris Lamb
Hi Mattia, Thanks for starting this thread. > 2. revert to unstable, but filter out packages tagged >captures_build_path and friends (DDPO/tracker will just show no data >about those packages) I read a really good book once that made a very convincing argument that dashboards and metrics

broken DDPO by not-so-broken reproducible-tracker.json

2016-10-18 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
Last night we held a short meeting, where one of the item in agenda was reproducible-tracker.json¹ and how a recentish commit to jenkins² broke one of its consumers, namely DDPO; after a bit of a discussion³ I oh-so-happily volunteered⁴ to bring the issue in ML. One of the purpose of reproducible-