Hi Rasa,

Apologies, we were traveling and just got back to the office. We are very
glad to be of help!

We let the users packing experiments to edit the yml file before the final
packing step, and for those secondary users who unpack, we let them
download and view the yml file. We certainly *could* automatically extract
categories of information for the user. It bears more thinking about,
especially since there are a few ways that unpacking users interface with
ReproUnzip.

Best,
Vicky

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On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 4:46 AM, Rasa Bočytė <rboc...@beeldengeluid.nl>
wrote:

> Hi Remi,
>
> In terms of migration, originally my institute planned to acquire files
> from the creators and then figure out what to do with them, most likely
> migrate individual files to updated versions when needed. Which I think is
> not a helpful approach since you need to start at the server and capture
> the environment and software that manipulates those files to create a
> website. Especially, if you want to be able to reproduce it.
>
> I am definitely leaning towards the idea that virtualisation of a web
> server would be the best approach for us. I will try to test out the
> examples that you have on your website and see if I can run some tests with
> my own case studies (of course, it depends if the creators will allow us to
> do it).
>
> I promise I won't bother you too much but my last question is about the
> metadata captured on the yml file. It is machine and human readable, but
> the question is what do you with it and how you present it once you have it
> so it becomes a valuable resource for those using the preserved object.
> Have you thought about automatically extracting some categories of
> information from that file in a user-friendly format or do you think it is
> enough as it is?
>
> Just wanted to say a massive thank you for your feedback. It has been
> incredibly helpful!
>
> Rasa
>
> On 6 April 2018 at 19:53, Rémi Rampin <remi.ram...@nyu.edu> wrote:
>
>> Rasa,
>>
>> 2018-04-04 08:03 EDT, Rasa Bočytė <rboc...@beeldengeluid.nl>:
>>
>>> In our case, we are getting all the source files directly from content
>>> creators and we are looking for a way to record and store all the
>>> technical, administrative and descriptive metadata, and visualise
>>> dependencies on software/hardware/file formats/ etc. (similar to what
>>> Binder does).
>>>
>>
>> I didn't think Binder did that (this binder?
>> <https://github.com/jupyterhub/binderhub>). It is certainly a good
>> resource for reproducing environments already described as a Docker image
>> or Conda YaML, but I am not aware of ways to use it to track or visualize
>> dependencies or any metadata.
>>
>> We have been mostly considering migration as it is a more scalable
>>> approach and less technically demanding. Do you find that virtualisation is
>>> a better strategy for website preservation? At least from the archival
>>> community, we have heard some reservations about using Docker since it is
>>> not considered a stable platform.
>>>
>>
>> When you talk of migration, do you mean to new hardware? What would you
>> be migrating to? Or do you mean upgrading underlying software/frameworks?
>> The way I see it, virtualization (sometimes referred to as "preserving
>> the mess") is definitely less technically demanding than migration. Could
>> you share a bit more about what you mean by this?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> PS: Please make sure you keep us...@reprozip.org in the recipients list.
>> --
>> Rémi Rampin
>> ReproZip Developer
>> Center for Data Science, New York University
>>
>
>
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