Hi both,

I presented ReproZip to other researchers in my institution and everyone
seems quite excited to see if it would work for us! I still need to discuss
it with a couple of other colleagues but I think we will try to test it.

One of the things that I am trying to figure out is how to include
client-side software, i.e. web browser, into the equation. Would you have
to create a separate container for that? I deally, we would like to package
everything, source files, server-side dependencies and client-side
dependencies, into one place, but I don't know if that is feasible.

Regards,
Rasa

On 18 April 2018 at 18:27, Vicky Steeves <vicky.stee...@nyu.edu> wrote:

> Hi Rasa,
>
> Apologies, we were traveling and just got back to the office. We are very
> glad to be of help!
>
> We let the users packing experiments to edit the yml file before the final
> packing step, and for those secondary users who unpack, we let them
> download and view the yml file. We certainly *could* automatically
> extract categories of information for the user. It bears more thinking
> about, especially since there are a few ways that unpacking users interface
> with ReproUnzip.
>
> Best,
> Vicky
>
> Vicky Steeves
> Research Data Management and Reproducibility Librarian
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>
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 4:46 AM, Rasa Bočytė <rboc...@beeldengeluid.nl>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Remi,
>>
>> In terms of migration, originally my institute planned to acquire files
>> from the creators and then figure out what to do with them, most likely
>> migrate individual files to updated versions when needed. Which I think is
>> not a helpful approach since you need to start at the server and capture
>> the environment and software that manipulates those files to create a
>> website. Especially, if you want to be able to reproduce it.
>>
>> I am definitely leaning towards the idea that virtualisation of a web
>> server would be the best approach for us. I will try to test out the
>> examples that you have on your website and see if I can run some tests with
>> my own case studies (of course, it depends if the creators will allow us to
>> do it).
>>
>> I promise I won't bother you too much but my last question is about the
>> metadata captured on the yml file. It is machine and human readable, but
>> the question is what do you with it and how you present it once you have it
>> so it becomes a valuable resource for those using the preserved object.
>> Have you thought about automatically extracting some categories of
>> information from that file in a user-friendly format or do you think it is
>> enough as it is?
>>
>> Just wanted to say a massive thank you for your feedback. It has been
>> incredibly helpful!
>>
>> Rasa
>>
>> On 6 April 2018 at 19:53, Rémi Rampin <remi.ram...@nyu.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Rasa,
>>>
>>> 2018-04-04 08:03 EDT, Rasa Bočytė <rboc...@beeldengeluid.nl>:
>>>
>>>> In our case, we are getting all the source files directly from content
>>>> creators and we are looking for a way to record and store all the
>>>> technical, administrative and descriptive metadata, and visualise
>>>> dependencies on software/hardware/file formats/ etc. (similar to what
>>>> Binder does).
>>>>
>>>
>>> I didn't think Binder did that (this binder?
>>> <https://github.com/jupyterhub/binderhub>). It is certainly a good
>>> resource for reproducing environments already described as a Docker image
>>> or Conda YaML, but I am not aware of ways to use it to track or visualize
>>> dependencies or any metadata.
>>>
>>> We have been mostly considering migration as it is a more scalable
>>>> approach and less technically demanding. Do you find that virtualisation is
>>>> a better strategy for website preservation? At least from the archival
>>>> community, we have heard some reservations about using Docker since it is
>>>> not considered a stable platform.
>>>>
>>>
>>> When you talk of migration, do you mean to new hardware? What would you
>>> be migrating to? Or do you mean upgrading underlying software/frameworks?
>>> The way I see it, virtualization (sometimes referred to as "preserving
>>> the mess") is definitely less technically demanding than migration. Could
>>> you share a bit more about what you mean by this?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> PS: Please make sure you keep us...@reprozip.org in the recipients list.
>>> --
>>> Rémi Rampin
>>> ReproZip Developer
>>> Center for Data Science, New York University
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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