Re: [Resin-interest] Why Apache?

2009-03-13 Thread Daniel J. Doughty
If you have the money, you can alleviate that at another OSI level. Ronan Lucio wrote: there's more than one reason. Serving different sites/services on the same server, not all can be served by resin for various reasons: These are the typical reasons. If you're running a specific

Re: [Resin-interest] Why Apache?

2009-03-11 Thread Frederick Cooper
: 646.613.7860 M: 917.673.4559 F: 212.925.6471 -Original Message- From: resin-interest-boun...@caucho.com [mailto:resin-interest-boun...@caucho.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Dane Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 2:30 PM To: General Discussion for the Resin application server Subject: Re: [Resin-interest

[Resin-interest] Why Apache?

2009-03-10 Thread Aaron Freeman
After watching a few of these threads about people using mod_caucho with Apache, it dawned on me to ask an open-ended question: Why use Apache at all? I am sure there are good reasons for it out there, so I am just curious what the use-case is for using Apache plus Resin instead of using

Re: [Resin-interest] Why Apache?

2009-03-10 Thread Daniel J. Doughty
Apparently they prefer the log output. I'll try to get you more specifics if I can. Scott Ferguson wrote: On Mar 10, 2009, at 10:19 AM, Daniel J. Doughty wrote: Some of my developers prefer how Apache logs activity. Can you give some more details? The Apache /server-status or

Re: [Resin-interest] Why Apache?

2009-03-10 Thread Jan Kriesten
Hi, Why use Apache at all? there's more than one reason. Serving different sites/services on the same server, not all can be served by resin for various reasons: a) Rewriting Service: mod_rewrite has no real pendent b) Different Servlet-Containers on port 80: There are a couple of

Re: [Resin-interest] Why Apache?

2009-03-10 Thread Rachel McConnell
Static file serving, perhaps? I don't know the current benchmarks but Apache has always had the reputation of being very fast for static files, whereas that's not what resin is optimized for. I say this from the POV of not using Apache at all, though: we use resin behind HAProxy for load

Re: [Resin-interest] Why Apache?

2009-03-10 Thread Andrea Sodomaco
I like very mych Resin as app. server. but if we talk about http servers I think apache is more reliable, more documented, more flexible and faster. e.g. LocationMatch \.gif$ Header set Cache-Control post-check=36000,pre-check=99 /LocationMatch Scott Ferguson wrote: On Mar

Re: [Resin-interest] Why Apache?

2009-03-10 Thread jkowall
I don't agree with part 1 even, with the advent of vmware/xen/virtualbox there is no reason to cram a bunch of stuff on a single server. It makes your infrastructure way less upgradable, reliable, and testable. a) The rewriting in resin is pretty good, its all regex, just like any other

Re: [Resin-interest] Why Apache?

2009-03-10 Thread Scott Ferguson
On Mar 10, 2009, at 10:44 AM, Rachel McConnell wrote: Static file serving, perhaps? I don't know the current benchmarks but Apache has always had the reputation of being very fast for static files, whereas that's not what resin is optimized for. I say this from the POV of not using Apache

Re: [Resin-interest] Why Apache?

2009-03-10 Thread Emil Ong
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 12:14:36PM -0500, Aaron Freeman wrote: After watching a few of these threads about people using mod_caucho with Apache, it dawned on me to ask an open-ended question: Why use Apache at all? I am sure there are good reasons for it out there, so I am just curious

Re: [Resin-interest] Why Apache?

2009-03-10 Thread jkowall
I actually love IIS for static content, its very fast and the caching is great. It can beat apache hands down, but not sure on light ot ng. On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Scott Ferguson f...@caucho.com wrote: On Mar 10, 2009, at 10:44 AM, Rachel McConnell wrote: Static file serving,

Re: [Resin-interest] Why Apache?

2009-03-10 Thread wesley
Subject: Re: [Resin-interest] Why Apache? On Mar 10, 2009, at 10:44 AM, Rachel McConnell wrote: Static file serving, perhaps? I don't know the current benchmarks but Apache has always had the reputation of being very fast for static files, whereas that's not what resin is optimized for. I

Re: [Resin-interest] Why Apache?

2009-03-10 Thread Joseph Dane
On Mar 10, 2009, at 7:14 AM, Aaron Freeman wrote: Why use Apache at all? you may have a situation where you haven't got a single webapp, but many webapps and other creatures living under a single host. in that case apache makes a nice top-level dispatcher, proxying requests to the

Re: [Resin-interest] Why Apache?

2009-03-10 Thread Jan Kriesten
Hi, a) The rewriting in resin is pretty good, its all regex, just like any other rewrite. You may have to learn some new stuff, but that kind of how IT works :) the rewriting in resin has it's limits - at least the last time I tried (I actually wrote to this list to get a replacement in

Re: [Resin-interest] Why Apache?

2009-03-10 Thread Stargazer
I would dearly love to ditch Apache! The answer for us is our dedicated hoster uses Plesk, so as there are other users/apps on it who use the Plesk PHP panel for their regular admin we have to keep that. After watching a few of these threads about people using mod_caucho with Apache, it