Re: [Resin-interest] Resin V Glassfish
Hi, From my personal point of view, I prefer Resin because its philosophy suits me better as it is more open and flexible, meaning it usually accomodates different ways of doing things. OTOH, GlassFish is for me more opinionated and it tries to guide you on how you should do things, so if you deviate from the norm you are usually on your own with scarce documentation and no support because nobody tried that. Similarly, Resin's community of users is smaller but they are usually more hardcore and knowledgeable, as they have to survive Resin's documentation ;) and have to choose their own path from the multiple ones allowed by Resin, but GlassFish is more popular which makes it easier for newcomers to start with, as they have more basic guides, it integrates transparently with IDES (meaning they don't have to have a clue about what's going on) etc. With that I don't want to imply that users of one server are better/smarter/whatever than users of the other, just that I think they are geared towards different markets, with both its benefits and drawbacks. S! D. Wesley Wu escribió: Yes, congratulations to Gavin King. Competition is a good thing. I think Scott will produce products with less bugs or we'll change to Weld :) 2009/11/28 Kai Virkki kai.vir...@gmail.com mailto:kai.vir...@gmail.com Well, JBoss already has a CDI implementation called Weld, so Resin really isn't exceptional in this account. CDI is actually based on JBoss Seam and Google Guice. Cheers, -Kai On 27.11.2009, at 12.10, Wesley Wu wumen...@gmail.com mailto:wumen...@gmail.com wrote: As long as Scott continue to work for the Resin's future I'll never switch to other platform. I loved the WebBeans so much from December 2007, now called CDI. I don't think other vendors could produce a competitive implementation of CDI versus Resin, in at least next 12 months. They have to throw in lots of labor and money to keep up with the more than two years hard work of Scott and his stuff. The forthcoming failure of OpenJPA is an example, which can nowhere compete with Hibernate EclipseLink in every aspect. -Wesley ___ resin-interest mailing list resin-interest@caucho.com http://maillist.caucho.com/mailman/listinfo/resin-interest
Re: [Resin-interest] Resin V Glassfish
Well, JBoss already has a CDI implementation called Weld, so Resin really isn't exceptional in this account. CDI is actually based on JBoss Seam and Google Guice. Cheers, -Kai On 27.11.2009, at 12.10, Wesley Wu wumen...@gmail.com wrote: As long as Scott continue to work for the Resin's future I'll never switch to other platform. I loved the WebBeans so much from December 2007, now called CDI. I don't think other vendors could produce a competitive implementation of CDI versus Resin, in at least next 12 months. They have to throw in lots of labor and money to keep up with the more than two years hard work of Scott and his stuff. The forthcoming failure of OpenJPA is an example, which can nowhere compete with Hibernate EclipseLink in every aspect. -Wesley ___ resin-interest mailing list resin-interest@caucho.com http://maillist.caucho.com/mailman/listinfo/resin-interest ___ resin-interest mailing list resin-interest@caucho.com http://maillist.caucho.com/mailman/listinfo/resin-interest
Re: [Resin-interest] Resin V Glassfish
Yes, congratulations to Gavin King. Competition is a good thing. I think Scott will produce products with less bugs or we'll change to Weld :) 2009/11/28 Kai Virkki kai.vir...@gmail.com Well, JBoss already has a CDI implementation called Weld, so Resin really isn't exceptional in this account. CDI is actually based on JBoss Seam and Google Guice. Cheers, -Kai On 27.11.2009, at 12.10, Wesley Wu wumen...@gmail.com wrote: As long as Scott continue to work for the Resin's future I'll never switch to other platform. I loved the WebBeans so much from December 2007, now called CDI. I don't think other vendors could produce a competitive implementation of CDI versus Resin, in at least next 12 months. They have to throw in lots of labor and money to keep up with the more than two years hard work of Scott and his stuff. The forthcoming failure of OpenJPA is an example, which can nowhere compete with Hibernate EclipseLink in every aspect. -Wesley ___ resin-interest mailing list resin-interest@caucho.com http://maillist.caucho.com/mailman/listinfo/resin-interest ___ resin-interest mailing list resin-interest@caucho.com http://maillist.caucho.com/mailman/listinfo/resin-interest ___ resin-interest mailing list resin-interest@caucho.com http://maillist.caucho.com/mailman/listinfo/resin-interest
Re: [Resin-interest] Resin V Glassfish
Hi Stavros Glassfish may be great - but even if it was technically and performance comparable to Resin I would be wary about adopting it as a free alternative because I am reassured to know that Resin is Caucho's bread and butter core business. Scott and his team will stand behind it but I would feel a whole lot less certain that Glassfish will have a guaranteed future as one of many projects competing for corporate resources in an Oracle universe with multiple overlapping products. Just my opinion from a human corporate behaviour / commercial risk perspective Regards Alan Wright Athene Systems - UK Stavros Stavrakis wrote: Hi All, We have had in-house Java based systems running on resin for many years now (since 2001). A few newer developers have thrown out the suggestion to switch to Glassfish V3. I am looking for justifications of why we should remain with Resin or switch to Glassfish. Is there anyone out there that has used both web containers? Regards Stavros Stavrakis Web: http://www.astasolutions.com.au http://www.astasolutions.com.au/ Address: Level 3, 420 St Kilda Road, Melbourne 3004 Tel: + 61 3 9644 3700 Fax: + 61 3 9820 9266 Mob: + 61 409 055 403 ___ resin-interest mailing list resin-interest@caucho.com http://maillist.caucho.com/mailman/listinfo/resin-interest -- Alan Wright Athene Systems tel 0845 230 9803 Athene Systems Limited Registered Office: Shieling House Invincible Road Farnborough GU14 7QU Registered in England and Wales No. 3156080 ___ resin-interest mailing list resin-interest@caucho.com http://maillist.caucho.com/mailman/listinfo/resin-interest
