Re: DDS-3 or DDS-4?
Ever tried DLT tapes? it's expensive but I NEVER had a damaged tape in 5 years. On the contrary, ± 50 DAT tapes (120m) are damaged (after incremental backups, never reusing a tape) in my archives of ±250 tapes... -- Serge Paulus Helpdesk Microscript s.a. 51 rue du Poinçon B-1000 Brussels 322/213.00.96 On mardi 7 mars 2000, Robin Bateman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All Don't want to be too contentious but Tape is NOT a good medium for archiving see note below for reason why CD is much better Also has the benefit that all Macs (OK OK Unless v old!) most peecees have CD so v easy for users to get archived data back ie: no dat drive (etc) no multi copies of retrospect ( training etc) Just a thought. Over to you -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 4.2 update and DHCP problems
I had the same problem and solved it by forgetting the client and then reinstalling it in the client database. On mardi 7 mars 2000, Todd Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm having trouble keeping my DHCP clients activated with Retrospect 4.2 for Mac. The clients, on a 10Bt hub, were all connecting fine via Appletalk and Retrospect 4.1 I began by updating the application to 4.2. Then I went into the client database and began switching client protocol to TCP/IP. After switching, they disappeared from the network. So we began updating the clients by going from system to system and running the updater. The next day I noticed that the clients were inactive in the client database. After looking at the clients in the network window, the systems also were active in the client database. We updated a couple of systems again that day to get them to 4.2. Next day, again all the clients in the database are inactive. Nothing got backed up the night before. I know at least one of the clients got a full install of 4.2 from scratch, not an update. I could use some suggestions as to why this is happening. Todd Reed Infoasis Internet Services534 4th St., Ste. 2San Rafael, CA 94901 (415) 459-7991 FAX: (415) 459-7992 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.infoasis.com -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Retrospect and Microsoft Exchange
Has anyone used Retroscpect to back up the mail store on a Microsoft Exchange 5.5 server? How does it handle this? Does the backup actually work? Can you recover email from the backed-up mail store? Feel free to email me directly if this has already been covered on the list. Aaron -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Retrospect and Microsoft Exchange
You're gonna have to stop the Exchange services, I'm certain. But, like anything, if you did perform a "cold" backup of Exchange/SQL/Oracle/etc, you would be able to back it up successfully. Mind you, I have not done this, since BackupExec lets me do a "hot" backup of Exchange and SQL. Brad. -Original Message- From: Aaron Golub [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 12:09 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Retrospect and Microsoft Exchange Has anyone used Retroscpect to back up the mail store on a Microsoft Exchange 5.5 server? How does it handle this? Does the backup actually work? Can you recover email from the backed-up mail store? Feel free to email me directly if this has already been covered on the list. Aaron -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Retrospect and Microsoft Exchange
Retrospect cannot back up live Exchange servers. Nor can you restore individual mailboxes or messages from a full Exchange backup. We are looking into offering an "agent" to back up live Exchange servers (as I suspect Brad must be using with ArcServe) some time in the future. Before this, though, I expect we'll have a way for you to make a "hot" Exchange server "cold" just for backup, then start it up again when it's finished. Stay tuned... Matthew Matthew Tevenan Technical Support Specialist Dantz Development Corporation 925.253.3050 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "Thone, Bradley A (Sbcsi)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "retro-talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 12:27:17 -0600 To: "'retro-talk'" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Retrospect and Microsoft Exchange You're gonna have to stop the Exchange services, I'm certain. But, like anything, if you did perform a "cold" backup of Exchange/SQL/Oracle/etc, you would be able to back it up successfully. Mind you, I have not done this, since BackupExec lets me do a "hot" backup of Exchange and SQL. Brad. -Original Message- From: Aaron Golub [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 12:09 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Retrospect and Microsoft Exchange Has anyone used Retroscpect to back up the mail store on a Microsoft Exchange 5.5 server? How does it handle this? Does the backup actually work? Can you recover email from the backed-up mail store? Feel free to email me directly if this has already been covered on the list. Aaron -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Retrospect and Microsoft Exchange
on 3/8/2000 3:00 PM, Matthew Tevenan at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Retrospect cannot back up live Exchange servers. Nor can you restore individual mailboxes or messages from a full Exchange backup. We are looking into offering an "agent" to back up live Exchange servers (as I suspect Brad must be using with ArcServe) some time in the future. Before this, though, I expect we'll have a way for you to make a "hot" Exchange server "cold" just for backup, then start it up again when it's finished. Stay tuned... Since Exchange Server supports IMAP, what about my previous suggestion about allowing an IMAP backup set in Retrospect, so that you could use Retrospect to backup an entire IMAP server hierarchy. This would eliminate the need to shut down mailservers such as Exchange Server and ASIP Mail, plus it would be a much more functional backup, allowing you to select individual IMAP folders and messages for restore instead of the entire mail database. Jon L. Gardner '89, Computer Systems Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas AM University Dept. of Food Services http://food.tamu.edu/ Tel 979.458.1839 Fax 979.845.2157 ICQ 34792860 PGP public key available at http://food.tamu.edu/pgp/jon.html -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Windows clients not responding after a time
Ben, Another problem, maybe related, is that, often, if I try to do a manual backup of one of our PCs, Retrospect reports that *no* files were copied. And I know that there is new/modified data that needs backing up. I can select files for back up, and they appear to get copied to tape. But a manual, non-selective back up of a PC may very well result in no files backed up. This problem is not related to the sleep issue. Unless you've got different selection criteria in your manual backup than you do in your automated one, Retrospect should select and copy the same files manually as it does automatically. There must be something else going on here. I suggest a QA session with a Dantz tech. I suspect that will clear this up. Please call us. Regards, Matthew Tevenan Technical Support Specialist Dantz Development Corporation 925.253.3050 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "Benjamin L. Jones" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "retro-talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 14:16:41 -0500 To: "retro-talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Paul Hudy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Windows clients not responding after a time I have this problem, also. A lot more than I care for. I suppose that part of the trick is to teach my PC laptop users to disable their sleep mode. Those times the Retrospect Client reports that it does not get loaded on boot up must have been brought about because the PC had gone in sleep/standby mode. Another problem, maybe related, is that, often, if I try to do a manual backup of one of our PCs, Retrospect reports that *no* files were copied. And I know that there is new/modified data that needs backing up. I can select files for back up, and they appear to get copied to tape. But a manual, non-selective back up of a PC may very well result in no files backed up. Ben Reply to: RE: Windows clients not responding after a time Rees, Have you restarted the machine at all between the time the client is visible and the time it's not? If the client PC is using the "Suspend" function (Windows 95), which powers off a computer without shutting it down, it will need to be restarted before Retrospect can access it. Similar behavior occurs with Windows 98 Stand-by mode and laptop sleep mode. We're hoping to change this behavior in a future release. If that's not the problem here, what does the client control panel say in its status window? Consult the Retrospect User's Guide for troubleshooting information or contact us directly if this error stays in the control panel even after restarting. Regards, Matthew Tevenan Technical Support Specialist Dantz Development Corporation 925.253.3050 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- 919.962.4551 -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DDS-3 or DDS-4?
At 10:58 AM +0100 03/08/2000, Serge Paulus wrote: Ever tried DLT tapes? it's expensive but I NEVER had a damaged tape in 5 years. On the contrary, ± 50 DAT tapes (120m) are damaged (after incremental backups, never reusing a tape) in my archives of ±250 tapes... Thanks for all of the responses to date on this thread. The purpose of my original post wasn't to discuss alternatives to DAT such as DLT, AIT, CD-R or VXA. We like DAT, we use DAT and have no plans to discontinue the use of DAT as relatively low-cost archiving of completed digital prepress jobs. Crucial data is sometimes written to other media, but DAT has been our primary archival media since 1993 (with very few mishaps). While appreciating the advantages of AIT (and DLT) for high capacity server backup functions, these newer tape systems aren't ideal for maintaining some backwards compatibility with 60- and 90-metre DAT media from the last half decade. It therefore seems that DDS-4 is the way to go, at least for our requirements. Stephen K. Suh Network RD + Admin Tel 613/228-0250 Studio Colour Group Fax 613/228-0254 6 Gurdwara Rd., Suite 105 Nepean, ON K2E 8A3 Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AIT drives
Yup - we use lots of AITs - not the LaCie ones specifically, but since it's just the SONY mechanism in a LaCIE case it should be representative. Currently we're using the 25/50 tapes but there's very little difference in the new ones. We have over 4,000 AIT tapes in current use over the course of the last year and there have been 8 tapes that had problems which were all mechanical drive issues. So that's a damage rate of .2% on very high usage backup servers. Note that that's stricly the tapes that were 'eaten' as it were. We've never seen an instance where data written to the media was unreadable. I haven't found a tape system that's completely bulletproof since you are dealing with moving physical tapes around a complex path, but the AIT's have been about as close as they get. You might want to look at the VXA tape stuff as well since the media is the same as far as I've been able to determine and I think the drive are marginally less expensive. Cheers, Erik Ableson On Wed, Mar 08, 2000 at 01:17:17PM -0800, Victor Orly wrote: Does anyone have any experience with the LaCie AIT 35 GB/70 GB drives? -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
