How can I stop an NT service before backup?
I have a backup job that backs up several servers during the night. One of these servers has a SQL database that will not back up properly unless the NT SQLBase service is stopped first. I went thru the support docs and they all talk about external scripting? Is there a simple way that I can stop a Windows NT service prior to backup of this server and then start it up again after backup. I know about the "net stop service" command but have no clue how to implement within retrospect. Also, I'm backing up 10 servers in this script so it would best if I could stop this service immediately before backing the SQL server and then start the service immediately after backup of this server is complete. Sometimes my backup jobs run into the morning hours so I can't afford to have this service stopped during the entire script. Any ideas?? TIA!! David -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
RE: How can I stop an NT service before backup?
Thanks Ben but like I mentioned, my backups sometimes start at 7:00PM and are still running the next morning when I come in! I am backing up 10+ servers to a tape library and I can't leave the service down for that long of a time -Original Message- From: Ben Mihailescu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 5:20 PM To: retro-talk Subject:Re: How can I stop an NT service before backup? How about you run an AT job with "net stop service" before your backup starts and then you run an AT job with "net start service" after retrospect is done. HTH, Ben "Kraut, David" wrote: I have a backup job that backs up several servers during the night. One of these servers has a SQL database that will not back up properly unless the NT SQLBase service is stopped first. I went thru the support docs and they all talk about external scripting? Is there a simple way that I can stop a Windows NT service prior to backup of this server and then start it up again after backup. I know about the "net stop service" command but have no clue how to implement within retrospect. Also, I'm backing up 10 servers in this script so it would best if I could stop this service immediately before backing the SQL server and then start the service immediately after backup of this server is complete. Sometimes my backup jobs run into the morning hours so I can't afford to have this service stopped during the entire script. Any ideas?? TIA!! David -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
RE: endless locating
Have you tried cleaning the DLT drive with a cleaning tape? -Original Message- From: Shawn Welter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 5:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:endless locating Hello, I have a DLT tape that we were trying to de-archive something from and the drive is just fast forwarding and then rewinding. I just keeps going and never gives an error or makes any progress. Is this a bad tape or is this a corrupt catalog? Any Ideas? I have never seen something like this. Shawn -- Shawn Welter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Information Systems Technician Dark Horse Comics, Inc. Ph: 503-652-8815 x347 http://www.darkhorse.com/ Fax: 503-652-6917 -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Backing up NAS devices with Retrospect?
Is there anyway to backup devices like "Snap Servers" www.snapserver.com http://www.snapserver.com or "MaxAttach" www.maxattach.com http://www.maxattach.com NAS devices using Retrospect? These devices are basically smart hard drives and there is now way to install the Retro Client to them? -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
RE: backing up exchange server?
Yes! Go here and choose Exchange -Original Message- From: andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 1:19 PM To: retro-talk Subject:backing up exchange server? is there any way to do it? -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
RE: backing up exchange server?
Yes! Go here and choose Exchange http://www.dantz.com/index.php3?SCREEN=db_addons#ES -Original Message- From: andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 1:19 PM To: retro-talk Subject:backing up exchange server? is there any way to do it? -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
RE: backing up exchange server?
Yes! Go here and choose Exchange http://www.dantz.com/index.php3?SCREEN=db_addons#ES -Original Message- From: andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 2:44 PM To: retro-talk Subject:Re: backing up exchange server? nt box...i didn't see the exchange agent - Original Message - From: "Stephen Jones" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "'retro-talk'" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 2:08 PM Subject: RE: backing up exchange server? I thought Dantz had an exchange agent? It's on their web site. Are you trying to back it up from a Mac across the network or from an NT box? Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ben Eastwood Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 1:30 PM To: retro-talk Subject: Re: backing up exchange server? Andrew- If the issue is open files not being backed up, you could try Open File Manager from St. Bernard Software, which I use, with some success, to back up a Lotus Notes server. There are issues with Services for Macintosh which I have yet to work out, but other than that it seems pretty cool. --Ben "andrew" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/21/2000 10:19:22 AM Please respond to "retro-talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "retro-talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Ben Eastwood/HMG/Wilson Learning/US) Subject: backing up exchange server? is there any way to do it? -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
RE: Purchasing a new system
Julia, I can't speak for the other tape formats but I have always used DLT as it seems to be the "Industry Standard". I would recommend taking a look at the HP series of Autoloaders. I use an HP SureStore 818 which holds up to (8) 40GB Tapes (80GB compressed) so I can store up to 640GB on a set. In reality I only use 6 tapes in the magazine to keep things more manageable so I can get up to 480GB on a magazine set. We also have lots of single DLT drives around but I only use those for special tasks. So far It's been working out very well . Here's a link to the HP series of products for you http://www.products.storage.hp.com/eprise/main/storage/DisplayPages/storagei ndex.htm David Kraut Alpharetta, GA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office 770-664-4047 Direct 678-228-3109 Fax 770-664-2850 Cell678-570-6831 -Original Message- From: Julia Frizzell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 10:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Purchasing a new system Hello folks! We recently got our funding for another 5 years from the federal government, and including in our first year budgeting is the money for a new backup system. I'm not planning on leaving Retrospect behind, so all I really need help with is a new tape drive system. Currently, we are using one DDS-3 tape drive for our entire local base of about 70 users. About 65 of those are Mac users, and about 5 are Windows NT boxen. We also have 7 Mac machines that are various servers, and 3 NT servers. For the users, we only back up their bookmarks.html file and their Documents folder (using ASR we can restore a desktop in little time, so there's no real need to backup the entire hard drive), and *currently* we only back up the My Documents folder for the NT user boxen, and specific directories for our servers. The desktops are backed up to tape nightly, with the laptops being backed up to tape during the day by a backup server. The servers are backed up weekly to hard drive (only exception being our Staff volume getting backed up nightly). The main reason for the latter is that we don't have anyone to do a tape switch after the Friday backup, I think (this system was in place before I got here). We change the nightly tapes daily, with incrementals M-Th, and a recycle backup on Friday. I alternate tapes weekly, with an A set and a B set. What I would like to do: The backup server system mentioned by Craig last week sounds like it would work great for me. I want to back up the servers nightly as well, which will increase the space each set takes up. I am also interested in doing a remote backup of our NYC office. They have static IPs, and could possibly be added to our backup sets. They have laptops and desktops, and I'm just not sure if I want to go that route, but it's a possibility. But on the other hand, if we do get a new tape drive, we could send them our old one and they could use that to backup. So, should I keep the same tape system (DDS-3) and get a new drive (auto-loader), get an additional drive (poor man's auto-loader), or go with something new? I have the archive of this list from last year, when someone went through and priced the different drives...ah, found it! [see below] DDS-3 was second to Ecrix (oh, it's pronounced ah-kree! Just noticed that on their web page. I'll have to stop calling it eh-cricks :). Oh, Retrospect is running on a Mac vanilla G3. It *could* possibly be run on a MP G4, with a SCSI card or maybe Firewire/USB if that was the way to go. Advice would be appreciated. At 1:36 AM -0700 8/3/00, Larry Acosta Wong wrote: [only part of message enclosed] Tran#Tapes Total True Model (GB) RatePrice Media Req'd Price $/GB --- VXA-1 333MB/s$539 $6712 $1,343 $3.39 DDS-3 121MB/s$777 $1627 $1,209 $3.73 DDS-24 .51MB/s$606 $775 $1,131 $3.77 SC30152MB/s$438 $4121 $1,299 $4.12 ADR50 252MB/s$697 $4612 $1,249 $4.16 VXA-1 333MB/s$939 $6712 $1,743 $4.40 Eliant 820 71MB/s $1,160 $845 $1,520 $4.83 DDS-4 203MB/s $1,072 $3315 $1,567 $5.22 Mammoth-LT 142MB/s $1,193 $3524 $2,033 $6.05 DLT 400020 1.5MB/s $1,352 $6415 $2,312 $7.71 Sony AIT-1 353MB/s $1,913 $88 9 $2,705 $8.59 Mammoth 203MB/s $2,126 $5615 $2,966 $9.89 Exabyte M2 60 12MB/s $3,777 $80 6 $4,257 $11.83 DLT 8000406MB/s $3,915 $64 9 $4,491 $12.48 Sony AIT-2 506MB/s $3,289 $94 6 $3,853 $12.84 For this comparison, I've included the VXA-1 at the promotional price since it's been extended through Aug and is available to everyone. The total cost of DDS-3 is actually $134 cheaper than the VXA-1 but the
RE: Purchasing a new system
Pardon my ignorance but I visited your site and did not see any mention of this M2 format? Where can I get details on it? David -Original Message- From: Stephen Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 11:50 AM To: 'retro-talk' Subject:RE: Purchasing a new system Definitely. Every technology needs streaming data for optimized performance. One cool thing about M2, it has a huge buffer (32MB). AIT-2 has 8MB. M2 uses this larger buffer to help adjust for varying host speeds. M2 can vary its tape speed to match the host. With so much memory, it can cache more files and flush the buffer accordingly. M2 is more expensive than the AIT series, but less expensive than a DLT 8000. I personally don't know why anyone would buy a DLT 8000 knowing M2 is 2x faster, 50% larger per tape and costs less. Only guys who need backward read compatibility have been buying DLT from us these days. Now that they know generation I of the SDLT (SuperDLT) will not be backward compatible with previous DLT formats, many of them have been moving to AIT and M2 (which promise larger capacities with future generations and complete backward compatibility). This explains why you can find so many DLT drives on eBay. Steve Cybernetics www.cybernetics.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Ross Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 11:22 AM To: retro-talk Subject: Re: Purchasing a new system DLT has not addressed that issue. Since linear pulls the tape across the heads at a faster rate (150 inches per second vs helical scan's .5"/second), it requires streaming -- otherwise you end up "shoe-shining". This reposition is very intense on the heads/tape of a linear drive. This applies to more than just DLT. Anything linear can suffer from this. 4mm, AIT and M2 are not plagued with this problem. Not really. AIT and DAT and I assume M2 spin the heads and slow down the tape but the relative speeds are in the same neighborhood. (I assume it's easier to spin the heads faster than move the tape faster which is why DLT appears to be falling behind in the race.) Anyway, you still need to keep the data flowing at the speed of the drive or it will stop streaming and get into tape stuttering or rewinds to reposition. This also causes a large loss in tape capacity as there's a lot of recording overhead in starting or stopping a stream. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
RE: ARCserve vs Retrospect Server Backup
Ben, We're only a Windows shop and do not use the Open File Manager product. My Servers are a mix of Windows NT4 and Windows 2000 and my clients are a mix of Windows 9x, NTW4 and Win2000Pro. Sorry I couldn't be of more assistance David -Original Message- From: Ben Eastwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 5:42 PM To: retro-talk Subject:Re: ARCserve vs Retrospect Server Backup David- Are you also using Open File Manager, and if so does it work OK in Win2k with Services for Mac? ( I know this is not really a retrospect issue, but not totally offtopic..) -- Ben Eastwood IT Manager wilweb.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "Kraut, David" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "retro-talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:11:38 -0500 To: 'retro-talk' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ARCserve vs Retrospect Server Backup I use it to back up a mix of (20) NT4 and Win2000 Servers. The retrospect program is running on a 2000 Server and works fine. I've also used ArcServe in the past and wild horses couldn't drag me back to that nightmare of a product!! :) David Kraut -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 8:53 AM To: retro-talk Subject: ARCserve vs Retrospect Server Backup I've been using ARCserve for many years to backup my NT 4.0 Server and NT Workstations and long time ago to backup a Novell server. For the Mac side of things though I've always preferred and used Retrospect. I prefer Retrospect because it's much easier to install, use and maintain than ARCserve. Both products have been very reliable though I'd have to say that Retrospect has proved to be a little more reliable than ARCserve. Now I'm finding myself needing to upgrade ARCserve to the new ARCserve 2000. However, I'd really rather drop ARCserve and switch to Retrospect Server Backup to perform the NT 4.0 Server (and eventually Windows 200 Server) and NT Workstation backups. Comparing the the two product's features and supported drives looks to be essentially the same. Anyone out there with experience using Retrospect Server Backup on a Windows NT 4.0 Server? I'd love to get some feedback about it. Thanks!! -- Tom Roth * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * tel 336.716.4493 Wake Forest University School of Medicine Dept of Biomedical Communications Medical Center Blvd * Winston-Salem, NC 27157-1011 http://www.wfubmc.edu/biomed/ -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
