Mac OS 9.1 FYI
I upgraded our Retrospect 4.3 server, a G3/300 desktop, to Mac OS 9.1, and everything seems to be working just fine. It's backing up my PowerBook G3, also running Mac OS 9.1, as I type. Jon L. Gardner '89, Computer Systems Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas AM University Dept. of Food Services http://food.tamu.edu/ Tel 979.458.1839 * Fax 979.845.2157 * Hip 979.229.4323 PGP public key available at http://food.tamu.edu/pgp/jon.html -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: Anyone used Retrospect on medium-large systems?
on 12/30/00 7:45 PM, matt barkdull at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dealing with ArcServe, you probably have a good idea of how you want the backups to go. Retrospect is a lot easier to set up to do what you want it to do. I'll second that. I used ArcServe at my last job, and while it did the job, it was kludgy and non-intuitive--especially when it came to recovering files from backup. I use Retrospect on one backup server for about 50-60Gb of data on four Mac OS servers, two Windows NT servers, a half dozen laptops, and a handful of client machines. Writing to a VXA drive, it can backup the whole tomato in one night, and recovery is a piece of cake. The only question I have to ask someone requesting an old file is, "Which day?" Jon L. Gardner '89, Computer Systems Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas AM University Dept. of Food Services http://food.tamu.edu/ Tel 979.458.1839 * Fax 979.845.2157 * Hip 979.229.4323 PGP public key available at http://food.tamu.edu/pgp/jon.html -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: Retrospect clients on an Airport network
on 12/22/00 6:16 PM, Jeffrey Travis at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody know of a workaround for getting Retrospect clients to work on an Apple Airport network that uses a software base station? The Apple Airport site says that Retrospect may not work with NAT, used by the Airport Software base station. It says that port-mapping may work, but doesn't go any further. If the Airport base station is set to act as a DHCP server for the wireless clients, then the IP address of the client will quite possibly change on a fairly regular basis. If you want to do backups of wireless clients, you'd be much better of setting up the AirPort as a bridge instead of a NAT router. We backup several laptops this way, and it works well...though it does hammer the wireless bandwidth pretty hard! Jon L. Gardner '89, Computer Systems Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas AM University Dept. of Food Services http://food.tamu.edu/ Tel 979.458.1839 * Fax 979.845.2157 * Hip 979.229.4323 PGP public key available at http://food.tamu.edu/pgp/jon.html -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: Retrospect Event Handler instability
on 12/22/00 12:21 PM, Steve Axthelm at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I set up a Retrospect Event Handler script, based directly on one of the supplied examples, and the script causes the computer to drop into MacsBug on a regular basis at the end of backups. What is listed as the offending call in MacsBug? You would ask me that. I'll have to check post-Christmas. Jon L. Gardner '89, Computer Systems Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas AM University Dept. of Food Services http://food.tamu.edu/ Tel 979.458.1839 * Fax 979.845.2157 * Hip 979.229.4323 PGP public key available at http://food.tamu.edu/pgp/jon.html -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Retrospect Event Handler instability
I'm running Mac OS 9.0.4, Retrospect 4.3, on a G3/300 desktop dedicated to Retrospect. I set up a Retrospect Event Handler script, based directly on one of the supplied examples, and the script causes the computer to drop into MacsBug on a regular basis at the end of backups. Has anyone else seen this sort of behavior? Sure, I could disable the event handler script, but it's quite nice to have status reports emailed to me. Jon L. Gardner '89, Computer Systems Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas AM University Dept. of Food Services http://food.tamu.edu/ Tel 979.458.1839 * Fax 979.845.2157 * Hip 979.229.4323 PGP public key available at http://food.tamu.edu/pgp/jon.html -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: Macintosh File
on 12/15/00 11:05 AM, Eric Ullman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to Apple's Tech Info Library article #15460, "AppleShare File Sharing: Chart of All Limitations," last modified 11/17/2000, ASIP 6.x still has a 2GB file size limit. http://til.info.apple.com/techinfo.nsf/artnum/n15460 Is this chart in error? The filesystem itself is no longer limited to 2Gb file sizes, but parts of the guts of Mac OS 9 are still limited, which means that Mac OS 9 is effectively limited to 2Gb file sizes. Jon L. Gardner '89, Computer Systems Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas AM University Dept. of Food Services http://food.tamu.edu/ Tel 979.458.1839 * Fax 979.845.2157 * Hip 979.229.4323 PGP public key available at http://food.tamu.edu/pgp/jon.html -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: Suggestions for backup design
on 11/17/00 4:51 AM, Rich Grenyer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got to implement overnight backups for 31 Macs, 5 iBooks and 3 PCs, across a 10MBit LAN on a weekly basis (approximately 22.5 GB storage transferred a night) What am I going to need in the way of server capabilities (I'd like a Mac for security reasons), and will thin ethernet carry this sort of transfer reliably? Does anyone have a recommendation for the sort of storage device for this much stuff? Ethernet will carry the transfer reliably. At optimal speeds, it would take about seven hours to back up 22.5Gb over a 10Mbit line, and that does not include Retrospect's preparation and comparison routines. A more reasonable timespan would probably be more like 15-20 hours, depending on your hardware and overall network utilization. So, you really have to decide *when* to backup rather than *what* or *if* to backup. If all of the computers are unused and running over the weekend, you could do a full (or recycle) backup over the weekend and normal backups each night of the week. Otherwise, you could split your clients into seven groups and each night do a full backup of one group and partials of the rest. For a 10Mbit LAN, just about any PowerPC Mac, preferably PCI, will be plenty of horsepower; just be sure to get a backup device that will hold at least a week's worth of data on one tape/disk. I recommend the Ecrix VXA drive, but there are several good cost-vs.-capacity comparisons in the list archives, so you can make your own call there. Jon L. Gardner '89, Computer Systems Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas AM University Dept. of Food Services http://food.tamu.edu/ Tel 979.458.1839 * Fax 979.845.2157 * Hip 979.229.4323 PGP public key available at http://food.tamu.edu/pgp/jon.html "Republicans may be 'the stupid party,' but at least the average conservative gun-nut can put a nice clean shot through the correct hole on his ballot from 200 yards." (Columnist Mark Steyn, London Daily Telegraph, 10/12/2000) -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
OT Re: Difference Between v4 v5 [addendum]
on 10/25/00 12:12 PM, Thone, Bradley A (Sbcsi) at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hard reality is that the Mac itself is relegated to virtually "niche" utility. Another hard reality is that Mac users are *very much* a minority, compared to Windows users. If you were in a business to market products (and make money), which users would you target I would target the group of users who, per capita, buy more computer gadgets and software, require less technical support, and are more likely to be vocal about their favorite products. In other words, Mac users. In fact, if you will recall, Dantz did rather well even when they were delivering a Mac-only product. That's a hard reality. Mass-marketing has its place, but any second-year marketing major would laugh out loud at the idea of marketing only to the masses. Industrial-strength backup software is not a mass-market commodity. Ten percent of any market is hardly "niche" and I think, were you to compare the number of Mac OS vs. Windows users who understand (and can implement) backup strategies, your "hard reality" would come up a bit soft. So, please, do away with the "Mac users really don't matter" tripe. It's both unfriendly and inaccurate, not to mention off-topic. Jon L. Gardner '89, Computer Systems Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas AM University Dept. of Food Services http://food.tamu.edu/ Tel 979.458.1839 * Fax 979.845.2157 * Hip 979.229.4323 PGP public key available at http://food.tamu.edu/pgp/jon.html -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: dying server
on 10/17/00 11:42 AM, Matt Barkdull at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you have the mail function of ASIP running? Do you have a filter set in Retrospect to not backup the mail folder? I can guaranty that if you are trying to backup that folder, that's where it is locking up. Mine did the same thing. Yes, we're running the mailserver, but we've always backed up that file and it's never caused problems before now. Plus, the log shows 88 files/12Mb remaining to backup, and the mail database is close to 700Mb, so that's not the file that's dying. I suspect it is a preference file, but I'd rather use the sharpshooter approach rather than the shotgun approach. Jon L. Gardner '89, Computer Systems Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas AM University Dept. of Food Services http://food.tamu.edu/ Tel 979.458.1839 * Fax 979.845.2157 * Hip 979.229.4323 PGP public key available at http://food.tamu.edu/pgp/jon.html -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: VXA Mac Tool
on 9/26/00 9:00 PM, Todd Reed at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has any one had any luck using the VXA tool on a Mac? My version just bombs with some cryptic error that it can't find the target. Doesn't crash, but doesn't find the drive either though the drive is listed in the window. Yeah, it works great for me. Be sure that no other programs are running that might be accessing the SCSI devices (like, for example, Retrospect). Jon L. Gardner '89, Computer Systems Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas AM University Dept. of Food Services http://food.tamu.edu/ Tel 979.458.1839 * Fax 979.845.2157 * Hip 979.229.4323 PGP public key available at http://food.tamu.edu/pgp/jon.html -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: VXA Mac Tool
on 9/27/00 4:18 PM, Todd Reed at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ecrix is telling me that the tool has problems running on older Macs. I'm using a beige Power Computer 150 mhz system and the built-in SCSI. The tool is noting that it's using the asynchronous SCSI manager. Anyone having any luck running the tool on beige Macs? I'm running it on a beige G3 300MHz desktop. I wouldn't trust a Power Computing system as a backup server...those are the Packard-Bell of the Mac clone world. Jon L. Gardner '89, Computer Systems Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas AM University Dept. of Food Services http://food.tamu.edu/ Tel 979.458.1839 * Fax 979.845.2157 * Hip 979.229.4323 PGP public key available at http://food.tamu.edu/pgp/jon.html -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: backup strategy - followup
on 9/14/2000 8:49 AM, jakob krabbe at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We use a 13-tape rotation. We swap tapes during the day on Monday, full (recycle) backup on Monday night, normal backups Tue-Sat nights. In addition, we have an FTP server offsite with one FTP backup set on it. Every two weeks we do a recycle backup to it over the weekend (takes anywhere from 24-36 hours, typically) with normal backups every evening. Seems like you're a step ahead of us... Exactley how much data are we refering to here? What bussines are you in, and what type of tapes are we takling about? We're an advertisement agency, backing up clients only (at the moment we have no server) and approximatley 20 - 30 GB as total... Gee, I have no clue! We have a similar amount of data. A full backup plus a week's worth of partials fits on a single VXA tape with room to spare (so far, anyway). FTP:ing stuff off-site seems little overkill for us, but if the VXA we bought was shipped with an autoloader I wouldn't look in to getting a tapedrive with an autoloader...! Actually, I don't like backups that are so much human dependent as the one we use. Changing tapes daily can't be scripted and that's why it sucks... ;-) Exactly, which is why we went to the VXA from our DDS-3. It all needs to fit on one tape in order to be easy. You don't have to FTP offsite necessarily; if you have another building, or even just a server on the other side of the same building, that will get you a little more security. The farther the physical separation, the better. Jon L. Gardner '89, Computer Systems Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas AM University Dept. of Food Services http://food.tamu.edu/ Tel 979.458.1839 * Fax 979.845.2157 * Hip 979.229.4323 PGP public key available at http://food.tamu.edu/pgp/jon.html -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Backing up Citrix MetaFrame server
on 9/18/2000 1:08 PM, Daniel Knight at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We're looking into a Citrix MetaFrame Windows application server for our network. I'd prefer to avoid the DAT backups the bidders are recommending and use Retrospect. Anyone familiar with the MetaFrame application server and how well it would fit? I'm using Retrospect on a Mac to backup a MetaFrame server to VXA tape. Works great. Just be sure to run the registry backup service on the NT box. Jon L. Gardner '89, Computer Systems Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas AM University Dept. of Food Services http://food.tamu.edu/ Tel 979.458.1839 * Fax 979.845.2157 * Hip 979.229.4323 PGP public key available at http://food.tamu.edu/pgp/jon.html -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: backup strategy - followup
on 9/14/2000 7:57 AM, jakob krabbe at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, which tape of the week do you save? I have two "monday tapes" that I cyckle and I'm planning to increase that to four tapes... I'm still in backup-tune-in-mode and I have a feeling mondays are not the best days...?? What day works best for you? We use a 13-tape rotation. We swap tapes during the day on Monday, full (recycle) backup on Monday night, normal backups Tue-Sat nights. In addition, we have an FTP server offsite with one FTP backup set on it. Every two weeks we do a recycle backup to it over the weekend (takes anywhere from 24-36 hours, typically) with normal backups every evening. Jon L. Gardner '89, Computer Systems Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas AM University Dept. of Food Services http://food.tamu.edu/ Tel 979.458.1839 * Fax 979.845.2157 * Hip 979.229.4323 PGP public key available at http://food.tamu.edu/pgp/jon.html -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Retro client on an ASIP server
on 8/17/2000 6:35 AM, Daniel Knight at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By shutting down these programs, we don't have to worry about live databases and other files not getting backed up. (I also have QuicKeys set to relaunch ASIP and FMPro Server at about 7:30 a.m. should something come up and I'm not able to do so manually.) Yeah, except our ASIP server is our main webserver, email server, and fileserver, and it hits our database server using Tango for live info from the database. It all has to be up 24x7. Jon L. Gardner '89, Computer Systems Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas AM University Dept. of Food Services http://food.tamu.edu/ Tel 979.458.1839 * Fax 979.845.2157 * Hip 979.229.4323 PGP public key available at http://food.tamu.edu/pgp/jon.html -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Retro Speed
on 8/16/2000 3:06 PM, Matt Barkdull at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Back up rates differ using: G4/ 400, DDS-4, shared 10Base-T Ethernet. 80 MB/min on first volume, 187 MB/min on second volume, and 93 MB/ min on third. All three volumes on server. What would cause the difference in the speed? 80 to 93 is not much, but the 187 would almost indicate that you have a fast hard drive. Are they three separate disk? If so, are they connected to SCSI card? Since the tape drive is most likely SCSI, I would guess that the drive that got 187MB/min is also SCSI and on the same card. That would account for the speed difference. Actually, the 187Mb/min drive would be on a different controller than the tape drive, and the lower speeds would be on the same controller. If the boot drive is an IDE drive and you only have one SCSI card, then the 187Mb/min is probably the boot drive. Am I right? Jon L. Gardner '89, Computer Systems Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas AM University Dept. of Food Services http://food.tamu.edu/ Tel 979.458.1839 * Fax 979.845.2157 * Hip 979.229.4323 PGP public key available at http://food.tamu.edu/pgp/jon.html -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Retro client on an ASIP server
on 8/16/2000 2:01 PM, jakob krabbe at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We're looking into getting an AppleShare IP server for filesharing and it has brought to my attention that an ASIP server cannot be used as a Retrospect client! Is that true and if so, how have you guys solved that problem? Well, somebody must have forgotten to tell my server about it, 'cuz it works great as a Retrospect client. Now, I wouldn't recommend using an ASIP server as a Retrospect *server* for performance reasons, but some people are even doing that successfully. Jon L. Gardner '89, Computer Systems Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas AM University Dept. of Food Services http://food.tamu.edu/ Tel 979.458.1839 * Fax 979.845.2157 * Hip 979.229.4323 PGP public key available at http://food.tamu.edu/pgp/jon.html -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: backup strategy
on 8/15/2000 7:44 AM, jakob krabbe at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe I don't need five storagesets? I've read somewhere one will do... I use VXA 170 meter tapes. What am I missing?? How much data are you backing up? We use one VXA tape per week. A new tape goes in on Monday, "Recycle" backup on Monday night, and "Normal" backups Tuesday through Saturday nights. We give the tape drive Sunday off. ;) Jon L. Gardner '89, Computer Systems Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas AM University Dept. of Food Services http://food.tamu.edu/ Tel 979.458.1839 * Fax 979.845.2157 * Hip 979.229.4323 PGP public key available at http://food.tamu.edu/pgp/jon.html -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newcomer Questions
on 8/9/2000 9:55 PM, Adrian Smith at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * DAT Tape drive - DDS3 or DDS4 attached to a PowerMac 7300, probably Sony (or LaCie which I think uses a Sony mechanism), no particular reason to go with Sony. * Retrospect 4.3 with clients on each of the Macs. I'd start off with an Ecrix VXA drive instead...it'll easily hold all of your data on one tape with room for the probable expansion you mentioned, and it's cheaper than a DDS4. Jon L. Gardner '89, Computer Systems Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas AM University Dept. of Food Services http://food.tamu.edu/ Tel 979.458.1839 * Fax 979.845.2157 * Hip 979.229.4323 PGP public key available at http://food.tamu.edu/pgp/jon.html -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Retrospect event handler stuff
on 6/2/2000 12:06 PM, Matthew Tevenan at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is possible with both Retrospect for Macintosh and Windows. See p. 193 of the Retrospect 4.2 User's Guide for information on how to do this with AppleScript and Retrospect for Mac. See p. 12 of the Retrospect 5.1 User's Guide Addendum for information on how to do this with a batch file script and Retrospect for Windows. I finally got around to twiddling with the event handler scripts (sure enough, it's all right there in the manual!) and, noticing that all of the email handlers required an email client application, decided to fix up a script to work directly with Stalker Internet Mail Server. SIMS is Macintosh freeware, and will quite happily accept and send a properly formatted text file, so in reality all the script has to do is write to a text file. I started with the Outlook Express script, and replaced the "sendMail" function with the following (be careful of line wraps if you cut/paste): -- sendmail function for Stalker Internet Mail Server. to sendMail given Subject:subj, myMessage:bodyText, recipientsList:reciplist try if reciplist is {} or reciplist is "" or reciplist is {""} or bodyText is "" then return -- Nothing or no one to send to. copy (path to system folder as string) "SIMS Folder:Submitted:" to mailFolder -- Generate an email alert message repeat with x from 1 to the length of reciplist -- Skip blank entries in the recipient list (if any) if item x of reciplist is not "" then copy item x of reciplist to msgTo -- Put the desired return address here copy "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" to msgFrom -- Write a text file that SIMS will pick up and deliver set mailFile to mailFolder (random number) open for access file mailFile with write permission write "To: " msgTo cr "From: " msgFrom cr ¬ "Subject: " subj cr cr bodyText ¬ to file mailFile starting at (get eof file mailFile) close access file mailFile end if end repeat on error errMsg number errNum --Unable to send msg but still continuing backup end try return end sendMail Enjoy! Jon L. Gardner '89, Computer Systems Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas AM University Dept. of Food Services http://food.tamu.edu/ Tel 979.458.1839 * Fax 979.845.2157 * Hip 979.229.4323 PGP public key available at http://food.tamu.edu/pgp/jon.html -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DDS-3 vs DDS-4?
on 8/1/2000 10:32 AM, Steve Rothman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (The only single-tape solution in my price range is VXA, which sounds very nice, but there is NO WAY I will go with a new, single-vendor solution...) You really have to look at risk vs. cost in this case. You can get into a VXA drive with a few tapes for $600-$700 and have an immediate 33-66Gb single-tape backup capacity. You'll pay about twice that much for a DDS equivalent, and more for anything else. Jon L. Gardner '89, Computer Systems Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas AM University Dept. of Food Services http://food.tamu.edu/ Tel 979.458.1839 * Fax 979.845.2157 * Hip 979.229.4323 PGP public key available at http://food.tamu.edu/pgp/jon.html Statistical observation: In 1998, 121 children under the age of 15 died in gun-related accidents. In 1998, 181 children under the age of 15 died in bicycling accidents. http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvs48_11.pdf -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Retrospect and Okey Dokey Pro Problems
on 7/27/2000 10:42 AM, John Mulligan at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okey Dokey has the option of remaining inactive in specific apps I would like to arrange it so that Retrospect Client dialogs are ignored. However, I cannot locate any Retrospect file that Okey Dokey recognizes as an application. The Retrospect client, since it's a control panel, is probably going through the Finder to display the dialog, so you might try disabling Okey Dokey for the Finder. Jon L. Gardner '89, Computer Systems Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas AM University Dept. of Food Services http://food.tamu.edu/ Tel 979.458.1839 * Fax 979.845.2157 * Hip 979.229.4323 PGP public key available at http://food.tamu.edu/pgp/jon.html Statistical observation: In 1998, 121 children under the age of 15 died in gun-related accidents. In 1996, 1.37 million unborn children were killed by abortion. (Planned Parenthood is far more dangerous than any firearm.) http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvs48_11.pdf -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DLT autoloaders?
on 7/25/2000 3:07 AM, Larry Acosta Wong at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, which is the winner? For me, I'm torn between the VXA-1 and AIT-1. The PC Mag article made the VXA-1 look pretty bad but I'm thinking that it's just relative and that the performance numbers for the AIT-1 would be pretty similar. Plus the July Ecrix promo making the VXA 70% cheaper than the AIT forces me to try out the VXA. Even better, I can buy two VXA drives for less than the cost of one AIT drive and make a poor man's autoloader! One last alternative, a friend of mine decided to skip the whole tape drive thing and buy a Quantum Snap Server 4000 ($2,469) instead. The Snap Servers ship with DataKeeper. Anyone have any experience with this? It only works under Windows but it allows "real-time" continuous back-up. On the Snap Server 4000, you get up to 120GB of storage. At 70% cheaper, the VXA is definitely the way to go, especially if most of your backup data is being pulled across the network AND your backup data will fit on one VXA tape (I hate swapping tapes). While backing up the local machine to the VXA drive, Retrospect reported 4Mbps throughput at one point, but the network backups are considerably slower (though still more than twice as fast to the VXA than to a DDS-3). I think that the VXA has allowed us to max out the network bandwidth, so we wouldn't see any real benefit speed-wise by using a higher-dollar AIT. We're actually using your second idea for our offsite backups. I set up an old Motorola PPC clone with Mac OS 9, Rumpus, and a 50Gb LVD drive in another facility...we do a local backup to the VXA, and an offsite backup to an ftp storage set on the clone. So, we never have to shuttle tapes back and forth for the offsite backup, and a week's worth of local backups fits on one VXA tape. It all adds up to a major decrease in the hassle factor of our backup strategy, and it didn't cost much at all. That makes me happy, plus it impresses my boss. :) Jon L. Gardner '89, Computer Systems Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas AM University Dept. of Food Services http://food.tamu.edu/ Tel 979.458.1839 * Fax 979.845.2157 * Hip 979.229.4323 PGP public key available at http://food.tamu.edu/pgp/jon.html -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DLT autoloaders?
on 7/24/2000 1:34 PM, Robert Cooper at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking into DLT vs DDS for a tape library. I went and read the old posts on the Ecrix and Mammoth DLT drives. I was wondering what the user experience has been with them now, since it has been some months since these posts were put up. We have been using an Ecrix unit for about nine weeks now, and it's been performing quite well. It ate a tape last week for some reason (the free one that came with the drive, wouldn't you know), but I haven't seen any other problems and it's more than twice as fast as our DDS-3 drive. Jon L. Gardner '89, Computer Systems Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas AM University Dept. of Food Services http://food.tamu.edu/ Tel 979.458.1839 * Fax 979.845.2157 * Hip 979.229.4323 PGP public key available at http://food.tamu.edu/pgp/jon.html -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ping/page script
on 7/21/2000 4:26 PM, Dan Willson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Head this way and check out Christian Vick's iDisk Mounter v1.7: ftp://io.com/%2Fpub/usr/gregg0/scripts/iDiskMounter1.7.hqx Nope, iDisk Mounter only works with your own iDisk...it won't mount public iDisks. If anyone wants a copy of The Pinger, email me off-list and I'll send it to you. Jon L. Gardner '89, Computer Systems Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas AM University Dept. of Food Services http://food.tamu.edu/ Tel 979.458.1839 * Fax 979.845.2157 * Hip 979.229.4323 PGP public key available at http://food.tamu.edu/pgp/jon.html -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Powerbook dials internet once an hour?
on 7/2/2000 12:50 PM, Ken Gillett at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I still maintain that NO software should cause unrequested dialups, I'm sorry if you don't agree...snip...My original point was that you can stop a Mac from dialing up. Exactly so. It is the PPP client's job to handle the dialup connection settings, including enabling/disabling automatic dialing. The other software on the machine should not have to know or care what sort of Internet connection is available. Jon L. Gardner '89, Computer Systems Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas AM University Dept. of Food Services http://food.tamu.edu/ Tel 979.458.1839 Fax 979.845.2157 ICQ 34792860 PGP public key available at http://food.tamu.edu/pgp/jon.html -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Powerbook dials internet once an hour?
on 6/29/2000 6:26 AM, Ken Gillett at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This seems to be curing the symptom, not the route cause of the problem. Why are they trying to dial out, there must be a reason? This is not normal Mac behaviour, WiNT maybe, but not Mac. Find out what is causing them to attempt the connection. On the contrary; it is absolutely normal behavior for any computer that uses TCP/IP services as part of the core OS. The majority of new Macs being sold are being connected to the Internet, and Apple has taken full advantage of this fact in the feature set of the Mac OS. If the Mac is set to use a network time server, check for software updates, or do any of a myriad of other built-in Internet-based activities, then it will try to establish a connection. That's exactly why the Remote Access setup has the option to force a manual connection. Jon L. Gardner '89, Computer Systems Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas AM University Dept. of Food Services http://food.tamu.edu/ Tel 979.458.1839 Fax 979.845.2157 ICQ 34792860 PGP public key available at http://food.tamu.edu/pgp/jon.html -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Q.. Backup Solution for both Mac NT Servers
on 4/26/2000 6:30 PM, steve menard at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to know what Backup Solutions are available to Backup both Mac ASIP NT servers? Can Retrospect Mac or PC do the job for both? IF so, what is the Disaster Recovery procedure to get up and running? Must we create a separate Backup of the system resources to be able to boot from that have the drivers for the DLT? any suggestions??? There are several backup packages that will work with Macs and PCs, but in my experience Retrospect is the least expensive, most flexible, and most reliable. At a previous job, I used ArcServe, which is a very powerful package but there's no Mac OS version of the server and the Mac client is buggy. Plus, ArcServe is very pricey and the user interface is non-intuitive. I much prefer Retrospect. As far as disaster recovery, the critical thing is to be sure that all critical files are not "in use" at the time of the backup. The Mac client is able to read the system files etc. without a problem, but some database programs might not allow Retrospect to backup open databases...or you run the risk of having an unusable version of the file in the backup. The typical workaround is to setup the database server to dump a static copy of the databases to a backup folder on the drive prior to the Retrospect backup. NT is a little different animal, because NT holds several key system files open and doesn't allow them to be read by any other process. Retrospect has an NT service that is able to create static copies of these files so that the backup process can access "clean" versions of them. The Retrospect documentation details the proper steps necessary for restoring an NT box, but suffice to say that it is very doable. Jon L. Gardner '89, Computer Systems Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas AM University Dept. of Food Services http://food.tamu.edu/ Tel 979.458.1839 Fax 979.845.2157 ICQ 34792860 PGP public key available at http://food.tamu.edu/pgp/jon.html -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New to Rertospect and AppleScript question
on 4/17/2000 1:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I ran a backup on a test database and the backup ran without any errors (while FileMaker was still running). I was then able to restore the database from tape and open it -- no problems, but FileMaker Server was never shutdown during the backup. I just ran a similar test and found that the database was backed up, but some indices had to be rebuilt. Shutting down FileMaker should give more reliable results. I just posted a very similar question to yours, before reading Friday's postings. It would be very nice if the server shutdown script could somehow be triggered by the Retrospect Client, but I don't see a way to do that yet. Just set up a script in FileMaker Pro Server to backup all open databases at a certain time, preferably just before the Retrospect script is set to run. It's all built-in. Ours does it every night at 8:00 or something. Jon L. Gardner '89, Computer Systems Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas AM University Dept. of Food Services http://food.tamu.edu/ Tel 979.458.1839 Fax 979.845.2157 ICQ 34792860 PGP public key available at http://food.tamu.edu/pgp/jon.html -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Retrospect and Microsoft Exchange
on 3/8/2000 3:00 PM, Matthew Tevenan at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Retrospect cannot back up live Exchange servers. Nor can you restore individual mailboxes or messages from a full Exchange backup. We are looking into offering an "agent" to back up live Exchange servers (as I suspect Brad must be using with ArcServe) some time in the future. Before this, though, I expect we'll have a way for you to make a "hot" Exchange server "cold" just for backup, then start it up again when it's finished. Stay tuned... Since Exchange Server supports IMAP, what about my previous suggestion about allowing an IMAP backup set in Retrospect, so that you could use Retrospect to backup an entire IMAP server hierarchy. This would eliminate the need to shut down mailservers such as Exchange Server and ASIP Mail, plus it would be a much more functional backup, allowing you to select individual IMAP folders and messages for restore instead of the entire mail database. Jon L. Gardner '89, Computer Systems Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas AM University Dept. of Food Services http://food.tamu.edu/ Tel 979.458.1839 Fax 979.845.2157 ICQ 34792860 PGP public key available at http://food.tamu.edu/pgp/jon.html -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DLT8000
on 2/29/2000 9:23 AM, Ronnie Livingston at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just found out that the DLT8000 is Ultra2 HVD. Will LVD and HVD not work together? Does anyone know off hand what SCSI card from Adaptec I will need to buy to make this work? I think the 2940U2W card has both a standard and an LVD hookup. You can't mix LVD devices on HVD chains or vice versa. Jon L. Gardner '89, Computer Systems Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas AM University Dept. of Food Services http://food.tamu.edu/ Tel 979.458.1839 Fax 979.845.2157 ICQ 34792860 PGP public key available at http://food.tamu.edu/pgp/jon.html -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sonia's on maternity leave
on 2/28/2000 12:14 PM, Sonia Santana Ford at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you for your message. Please note that I am currently on Maternity Leave and cannot respond to your message. In my absence, you can contact Caroline Cho via phone or e-mail for assistance. Her e-mail address and direct phone number are listed below. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 925.253.3038 Regards, Sonia Hey, Caroline...Sonia's on maternity leave and her auto-responder is flooding our list. Or is this just a subtle hint that we should get her a baby gift? :) Jon L. Gardner '89, Computer Systems Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas AM University Dept. of Food Services http://food.tamu.edu/ Tel 979.458.1839 Fax 979.845.2157 ICQ 34792860 PGP public key available at http://food.tamu.edu/pgp/jon.html -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Backing up FileMaker Pro 5 on a PC
on 2/25/2000 4:33 PM, Aaron Kopel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am wanting to back up FileMaker Pro 5 databases that are hosted on a WINNT machine. I was curious as to some other people's strategies. I am running into the "file open" problem. We are using retrospect 4.2 Set up a server script in FileMaker Pro to backup the databases just before the Retrospect backup is supposed to happen. Retro will be able to read the backup files, since they won't be open. Jon L. Gardner '89, Computer Systems Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas AM University Dept. of Food Services http://food.tamu.edu/ Tel 979.458.1839 Fax 979.845.2157 ICQ 34792860 PGP public key available at http://food.tamu.edu/pgp/jon.html -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Retrospect forgets normal backups!?
on 2/22/2000 5:23 AM, Robert Staflin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, every Friday I've set up a recycle backup, spanning four sets of tapes (for four weeks between recycling of one set), and then I do normal backups Saturday through Thursday. I set the normal backups as starting the same day (Friday) as the recycle backup, but setup to run on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Saturday, Sunday. The problem may be that Retrospect runs on a Sunday-to-Saturday schedule, which means that if you try to run a schedule for MTWThFSaSu it will actually try to run SuMTWThFSa. This has bitten me several times, to the point that my weekend backups don't go to tapes anymore, but only to FTP backup sets. Jon L. Gardner '89, Computer Systems Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas AM University Dept. of Food Services http://food.tamu.edu/ Tel 979.458.1839 Fax 979.845.2157 ICQ 34792860 PGP public key available at http://food.tamu.edu/pgp/jon.html -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Are the hog dialogs ever going to go away?
I have to revisit this topic on a regular basis, because it bites me on a very frequent basis. Retrospect's error dialogs, such as "lost access to media" or "storage set out of sync", just stop Retrospect dead in its tracks. OkeyDokey won't dismiss the dialogs, and Retrospect has no "dismiss dialogs after x minutes" option in the preferences. So, if I have two or three scripts that are supposed to run overnight, and the first one has a tape error of some sort, none of the rest of the scripts are executed even if they're using different media. This is a royal pain in the neck, Dantz! Please, PLEASE give us some relief here. Optimally, it would be nice to have Retro simply send an email to a designated address upon script failure, log it, and then keep on trucking. At a minimum, we need a "dismiss dialogs after x minutes" option in the prefs. As it stands now, I have to babysit the backup server, and I shouldn't have to do that with an enterprise-level product. Jon L. Gardner '89, Computer Systems Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas AM University Dept. of Food Services http://food.tamu.edu/ Tel 409.458.1839 Fax 409.845.2157 ICQ 34792860 PGP public key available at http://food.tamu.edu/pgp/jon.html -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]