Re: Mac Client Uptdate - for Irena
Hi James, I completely understand the Windows side of the client update. If you run the update with the manual reboot client the old version will still be active until after the first reboot. I've updated 59 clients last night before my nightly backup with the manual reboot client (Win) and they have all been backed up correctly over night. So, Dantz, it would be nice to put the Mac Client Update software in a "Macintosh Manual Reboot" folder, rather then just "Macintosh". Essentially it would have avoided us having this discussion, and therefore be more efficient. Cheers, Ben James Keagan wrote: I think what Irena was trying to say is that you must manually restart the Mac clients before the change takes effect. The Windows clients have two separate .rcu files: one that will automatically restart the computer and one that requires a manual reboot. And correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the Windows client service completely stop until reboot, while the Mac client can continue operating even if there has not been a reboot (it will still be the same version, though)? J. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ben Mihailescu Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 2:26 PM To: retro-talk Subject: Re: Mac Client Uptdate - for Irena Hi Irena, Will they reboot automatically upon installation of the update, or they can be restarted manually? We are talking about Mac clients only. Your answer was great, but ambiguous. Sorry :-( Thanks again, Ben Irena Solomon wrote: Hi Ben, Yes, Mac clients must be restarted for the updated client software to load and run. Irena Solomon Dantz Development Corporation 925.253.3050 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Ben Mihailescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: McGill University Reply-To: "retro-talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 12:43:39 -0400 To: Retrospect List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mac Client Uptdate Hi all, If I embark on updating all the Mac clients over the network, do the Mac clients need to be restarted, like the Windoz ones? Ben -- Ben Mihailescu System Administrator Electrical and Computer Engineering, McGill University -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- Ben Mihailescu System Administrator Electrical and Computer Engineering, McGill University 514.398.7467 -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- Ben Mihailescu System Administrator Electrical and Computer Engineering, McGill University 514.398.7467 -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: Mac Client Uptdate
Hi all, If I embark on updating all the Mac clients over the network, do the Mac clients need to be restarted, like the Windoz ones? No, the backups will continue under the old client until the computer reboots, at which time the new client kicks in. However, be aware that if any of your computers run Norton Anti-Virus' Auto-Protect extension, your Macs will crash when the server tries to update them. I found this out the hard way. Chris -- _ Chris Freemesser, University of Rochester Department of Brain Cognitive Sciences / Center for Visual Science Meliora Hall, Room 244 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (716)275-0786 _ -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: Mac Client Uptdate
Hi Ben, Yes, Mac clients must be restarted for the updated client software to load and run. Irena Solomon Dantz Development Corporation 925.253.3050 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Ben Mihailescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: McGill University Reply-To: "retro-talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 12:43:39 -0400 To: Retrospect List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mac Client Uptdate Hi all, If I embark on updating all the Mac clients over the network, do the Mac clients need to be restarted, like the Windoz ones? Ben -- Ben Mihailescu System Administrator Electrical and Computer Engineering, McGill University -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: Mac Client Uptdate
Does this happens automatically, or can I have an option to restart manually like the Win boxes? Thanks, Ben Irena Solomon wrote: Hi Ben, Yes, Mac clients must be restarted for the updated client software to load and run. Irena Solomon Dantz Development Corporation 925.253.3050 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Ben Mihailescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: McGill University Reply-To: "retro-talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 12:43:39 -0400 To: Retrospect List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mac Client Uptdate Hi all, If I embark on updating all the Mac clients over the network, do the Mac clients need to be restarted, like the Windoz ones? Ben -- Ben Mihailescu System Administrator Electrical and Computer Engineering, McGill University -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- Ben Mihailescu System Administrator Electrical and Computer Engineering, McGill University 514.398.7467 -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: Mac Client Uptdate
side note, from what I understand, your Mac backups will continue to run on the old client. That won't you won't miss any backups if computers have not been restarted. Ben Mihailescu wrote: Does this happens automatically, or can I have an option to restart manually like the Win boxes? Thanks, Ben Irena Solomon wrote: Hi Ben, Yes, Mac clients must be restarted for the updated client software to load and run. Irena Solomon Dantz Development Corporation 925.253.3050 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Ben Mihailescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: McGill University Reply-To: "retro-talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 12:43:39 -0400 To: Retrospect List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mac Client Uptdate Hi all, If I embark on updating all the Mac clients over the network, do the Mac clients need to be restarted, like the Windoz ones? Ben -- Ben Mihailescu System Administrator Electrical and Computer Engineering, McGill University -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- Ben Mihailescu System Administrator Electrical and Computer Engineering, McGill University 514.398.7467 -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
RE: Mac Client Uptdate
Ideally, I'd like to know what files get updated, where the files go, and any changes made to the registry. That way, I could update their client software (by copying files and importing registry keys) when the user logs into my NT domain. Then, I just stop and restart the Retrospect Client service and voila! Or, I'd like a silent (minimized is OK) and unattended (user has no control) installer/updater. These ways, I don't tie up a server, trying to update workstations that may or may not: Be Powered On Be On the Network Even Exist This is how I'm keeping McAfee VirusScan virus signatures AND software up-to-date on my NT workstations. I test for the existence of some things. If they're not there, then I do a complete unattended and silent install of VirusScan, import registry entries to config the installation, and apply a superdat (engine update and DAT update). All this is done silently, via my logon script, while the user is logging on to the domain. Hint, hint, hint. Brad. -Original Message- From: Wade Masshardt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 12:24 PM To: retro-talk Subject: Re: Mac Client Uptdate At 10:13 -0700 10/18/00, Irena Solomon wrote: Hi Ben, Yes, Mac clients must be restarted for the updated client software to load and run. Unless I'm wrong, the Windows clients will restart the client computer immediately after they are updated, whereas the Macintosh clients require a manual restart. For fun and games, do a mass update of all your Windows clients during the middle of the day, when the users are logged on working. Laugh yourself silly behind the locked door bulletproof glass of your system's room. -- +--+--+ |Wade Masshardt| The Wisconsin Alumni Association | | Tech Support Coordinator | 1-888-WIS-ALUM (1-888-947-2586) | | 608-265-8766 | http://uwalumni.com/ | +--+--+ | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | +-+ -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: Mac Client Uptdate - for Irena
Hi Irena, Will they reboot automatically upon installation of the update, or they can be restarted manually? We are talking about Mac clients only. Your answer was great, but ambiguous. Sorry :-( Thanks again, Ben Irena Solomon wrote: Hi Ben, Yes, Mac clients must be restarted for the updated client software to load and run. Irena Solomon Dantz Development Corporation 925.253.3050 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Ben Mihailescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: McGill University Reply-To: "retro-talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 12:43:39 -0400 To: Retrospect List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mac Client Uptdate Hi all, If I embark on updating all the Mac clients over the network, do the Mac clients need to be restarted, like the Windoz ones? Ben -- Ben Mihailescu System Administrator Electrical and Computer Engineering, McGill University -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- Ben Mihailescu System Administrator Electrical and Computer Engineering, McGill University 514.398.7467 -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: Mac Client Uptdate - for Irena
Hi Ben, They will require a manual reboot; Retrospect won't automatically reboot a Mac client after updating. Thanks for keeping me in check ;) Irena From: Ben Mihailescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: McGill University Reply-To: "retro-talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 17:26:16 -0400 To: retro-talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Mac Client Uptdate - for Irena Hi Irena, Will they reboot automatically upon installation of the update, or they can be restarted manually? We are talking about Mac clients only. Your answer was great, but ambiguous. Sorry :-( Thanks again, Ben Irena Solomon wrote: Hi Ben, Yes, Mac clients must be restarted for the updated client software to load and run. Irena Solomon Dantz Development Corporation 925.253.3050 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Ben Mihailescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: McGill University Reply-To: "retro-talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 12:43:39 -0400 To: Retrospect List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mac Client Uptdate Hi all, If I embark on updating all the Mac clients over the network, do the Mac clients need to be restarted, like the Windoz ones? Ben -- Ben Mihailescu System Administrator Electrical and Computer Engineering, McGill University -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- Ben Mihailescu System Administrator Electrical and Computer Engineering, McGill University 514.398.7467 -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: Mac Client Uptdate - for Irena
Hi Irena, Thanks, that's good news. Sorry if I seemed harsh. It's better to be clear than sorry. Cheers, Ben Irena Solomon wrote: Hi Ben, They will require a manual reboot; Retrospect won't automatically reboot a Mac client after updating. Thanks for keeping me in check ;) Irena From: Ben Mihailescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: McGill University Reply-To: "retro-talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 17:26:16 -0400 To: retro-talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Mac Client Uptdate - for Irena Hi Irena, Will they reboot automatically upon installation of the update, or they can be restarted manually? We are talking about Mac clients only. Your answer was great, but ambiguous. Sorry :-( Thanks again, Ben Irena Solomon wrote: Hi Ben, Yes, Mac clients must be restarted for the updated client software to load and run. Irena Solomon Dantz Development Corporation 925.253.3050 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Ben Mihailescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: McGill University Reply-To: "retro-talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 12:43:39 -0400 To: Retrospect List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mac Client Uptdate Hi all, If I embark on updating all the Mac clients over the network, do the Mac clients need to be restarted, like the Windoz ones? Ben -- Ben Mihailescu System Administrator Electrical and Computer Engineering, McGill University -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- Ben Mihailescu System Administrator Electrical and Computer Engineering, McGill University 514.398.7467 -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- Ben Mihailescu System Administrator Electrical and Computer Engineering, McGill University 514.398.7467 -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
RE: Mac Client Uptdate - for Irena
I think what Irena was trying to say is that you must manually restart the Mac clients before the change takes effect. The Windows clients have two separate .rcu files: one that will automatically restart the computer and one that requires a manual reboot. And correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the Windows client service completely stop until reboot, while the Mac client can continue operating even if there has not been a reboot (it will still be the same version, though)? J. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ben Mihailescu Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 2:26 PM To: retro-talk Subject: Re: Mac Client Uptdate - for Irena Hi Irena, Will they reboot automatically upon installation of the update, or they can be restarted manually? We are talking about Mac clients only. Your answer was great, but ambiguous. Sorry :-( Thanks again, Ben Irena Solomon wrote: Hi Ben, Yes, Mac clients must be restarted for the updated client software to load and run. Irena Solomon Dantz Development Corporation 925.253.3050 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Ben Mihailescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: McGill University Reply-To: "retro-talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 12:43:39 -0400 To: Retrospect List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mac Client Uptdate Hi all, If I embark on updating all the Mac clients over the network, do the Mac clients need to be restarted, like the Windoz ones? Ben -- Ben Mihailescu System Administrator Electrical and Computer Engineering, McGill University -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- Ben Mihailescu System Administrator Electrical and Computer Engineering, McGill University 514.398.7467 -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
