RE: verify media
What options do us NT Backup Server users have for email notification? adam... -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: verify media
I also wished Dantz included a small email client in the retro server so that the log could easilly be mailed to the administrator. I've tried to get the thirdparty thing to work twize but it fails each time. I've got the e-mail feature working to e-mail me logs and everything else and to page me if there is an error or for tape requests. (my alpha/numeric pager has an e-mail address). It works great. I love this feature, because I don't have to constantly check the server. I have it working with Outlook Express 4.0 (the script with Retrospect 4.2 doesn't apparently work with Outlook Express 5 or at least I couldn't get it to work). I just followed the instructions in the manual. Let me know if you still can't get it to work. I haven't tried it with other e-mail programs. -- Jeff Johnson System Administrator Just Partners 1710 East Franklin Street, Suite 150 Richmond, VA 23223 (804) 698-6309 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eric Zylstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "retro-talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 14:41:41 -0500 To: "retro-talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: verify media I'm talking about byte-by-byte comparison. If you do no comparison, do you check to see that your data is restorable? If you don't check it, you must not have heard the common stories about having no useable backup after a major crash. I've heard many. What do you do when you get a bad byte-by-byte comparison? I monitor by backups daily. If I see a media failure, I give the drive another shot with the tape cleaner, try the tape immediately for another backup and if it fails, throw it into the garbage. I also wished Dantz included a small email client in the retro server so that the log could easilly be mailed to the administrator. I've tried to get the thirdparty thing to work twize but it fails each time. There is a way you can manage this with AppleScript, but I've not implemented it myself. I plan to use Luke Jaegers suggestion of one tape each day, wouldn't that be secure enough?? I mean, if the byte-to-byte comparisson fails it nly matters if it fails on the single files the client were just working with or did I miss something... The key is that you need to know the media -or- the drive has failed. Otherwise, you experience a silent failure--the write to tape failed, but you have no idea until you attempt to do a critical restore. Then you are screwed. Now, if you have sufficient funding for a new tape every day (365 1/4 tapes a year), then you probably could find a faster and better backup apparatus (i. e., a bunch of IDE drives). Hope you enjoy your holiday. Eric Zylstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: verify media
Please, WHERE is that automatic e-mail feature in retrospect? On lundi 17 juillet 2000, Jeff Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also wished Dantz included a small email client in the retro server so that the log could easilly be mailed to the administrator. I've tried to get the thirdparty thing to work twize but it fails each time. I've got the e-mail feature working to e-mail me logs and everything else and to page me if there is an error or for tape requests. (my alpha/numeric pager has an e-mail address). It works great. I love this feature, because I don't have to constantly check the server. I have it working with Outlook Express 4.0 (the script with Retrospect 4.2 doesn't apparently work with Outlook Express 5 or at least I couldn't get it to work). I just followed the instructions in the manual. Let me know if you still can't get it to work. I haven't tried it with other e-mail programs. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: verify media
It uses the "Retrospect Event handler" which is in the AppleScript utilities folder. It is a separate program that runs in the background. The instructions for setting it up start on Page 193 of the Retrospect User's Guide for version 4.2. You don't have to know anything about using AppleScript to set it up. Pretty simple! -- Jeff Johnson System Administrator Just Partners 1710 East Franklin Street, Suite 150 Richmond, VA 23223 (804) 698-6309 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Serge Paulus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "retro-talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 17 Jul 2000 16:02:50 +0200 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: verify media Please, WHERE is that automatic e-mail feature in retrospect? On lundi 17 juillet 2000, Jeff Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also wished Dantz included a small email client in the retro server so that the log could easilly be mailed to the administrator. I've tried to get the thirdparty thing to work twize but it fails each time. I've got the e-mail feature working to e-mail me logs and everything else and to page me if there is an error or for tape requests. (my alpha/numeric pager has an e-mail address). It works great. I love this feature, because I don't have to constantly check the server. I have it working with Outlook Express 4.0 (the script with Retrospect 4.2 doesn't apparently work with Outlook Express 5 or at least I couldn't get it to work). I just followed the instructions in the manual. Let me know if you still can't get it to work. I haven't tried it with other e-mail programs. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: verify media
Sorry, I should state that the AppleScript utilities folder is installed when you install Retrospect and can be found in the Retrospect program folder. -- Jeff Johnson System Administrator Just Partners 1710 East Franklin Street, Suite 150 Richmond, VA 23223 (804) 698-6309 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Jeff Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "retro-talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 10:12:10 -0400 To: retro-talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: verify media It uses the "Retrospect Event handler" which is in the AppleScript utilities folder. It is a separate program that runs in the background. The instructions for setting it up start on Page 193 of the Retrospect User's Guide for version 4.2. You don't have to know anything about using AppleScript to set it up. Pretty simple! -- Jeff Johnson System Administrator Just Partners 1710 East Franklin Street, Suite 150 Richmond, VA 23223 (804) 698-6309 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Serge Paulus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "retro-talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 17 Jul 2000 16:02:50 +0200 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: verify media Please, WHERE is that automatic e-mail feature in retrospect? On lundi 17 juillet 2000, Jeff Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also wished Dantz included a small email client in the retro server so that the log could easilly be mailed to the administrator. I've tried to get the thirdparty thing to work twize but it fails each time. I've got the e-mail feature working to e-mail me logs and everything else and to page me if there is an error or for tape requests. (my alpha/numeric pager has an e-mail address). It works great. I love this feature, because I don't have to constantly check the server. I have it working with Outlook Express 4.0 (the script with Retrospect 4.2 doesn't apparently work with Outlook Express 5 or at least I couldn't get it to work). I just followed the instructions in the manual. Let me know if you still can't get it to work. I haven't tried it with other e-mail programs. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: verify media - email client
I also wished Dantz included a small email client in the retro server so that the log could easilly be mailed to the administrator. I've tried to get the thirdparty thing to work twize but it fails each time. Maybe I do another try around christmas or if anyone have a brighter sollution than the current, please mail it to me, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I use Eudora Lite v3.1.3 available at http://www.qualcomm.com It works well for me, and doesn't utolize lots of memory. ___ Philip Chonacky, IS Manager Barrett Companies ph. (617) 577-9500 fx. (617) 577-1010 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: verify media
Jeff and everyone, The Outlook Express e-mail event handler included with Retrospect 4.1 and 4.2 does not work with OE 5. We have a version that does, though. Please e-mail me directly if you would like to receive it. I expect we'll be shipping it with our next version of Retrospect. Regards, Matthew Tevenan Technical Support Specialist Dantz Development Corporation 925.253.3050 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Jeff Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "retro-talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 09:46:18 -0400 To: retro-talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: verify media I also wished Dantz included a small email client in the retro server so that the log could easilly be mailed to the administrator. I've tried to get the thirdparty thing to work twize but it fails each time. I've got the e-mail feature working to e-mail me logs and everything else and to page me if there is an error or for tape requests. (my alpha/numeric pager has an e-mail address). It works great. I love this feature, because I don't have to constantly check the server. I have it working with Outlook Express 4.0 (the script with Retrospect 4.2 doesn't apparently work with Outlook Express 5 or at least I couldn't get it to work). I just followed the instructions in the manual. Let me know if you still can't get it to work. I haven't tried it with other e-mail programs. -- Jeff Johnson System Administrator Just Partners 1710 East Franklin Street, Suite 150 Richmond, VA 23223 (804) 698-6309 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eric Zylstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "retro-talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 14:41:41 -0500 To: "retro-talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: verify media I'm talking about byte-by-byte comparison. If you do no comparison, do you check to see that your data is restorable? If you don't check it, you must not have heard the common stories about having no useable backup after a major crash. I've heard many. What do you do when you get a bad byte-by-byte comparison? I monitor by backups daily. If I see a media failure, I give the drive another shot with the tape cleaner, try the tape immediately for another backup and if it fails, throw it into the garbage. I also wished Dantz included a small email client in the retro server so that the log could easilly be mailed to the administrator. I've tried to get the thirdparty thing to work twize but it fails each time. There is a way you can manage this with AppleScript, but I've not implemented it myself. I plan to use Luke Jaegers suggestion of one tape each day, wouldn't that be secure enough?? I mean, if the byte-to-byte comparisson fails it nly matters if it fails on the single files the client were just working with or did I miss something... The key is that you need to know the media -or- the drive has failed. Otherwise, you experience a silent failure--the write to tape failed, but you have no idea until you attempt to do a critical restore. Then you are screwed. Now, if you have sufficient funding for a new tape every day (365 1/4 tapes a year), then you probably could find a faster and better backup apparatus (i. e., a bunch of IDE drives). Hope you enjoy your holiday. Eric Zylstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: verify media
I'm talking about byte-by-byte comparison. If you do no comparison, do you check to see that your data is restorable? If you don't check it, you must not have heard the common stories about having no useable backup after a major crash. I've heard many. OK, i'm off for a 3 weeks vaccation any day but i'll read my mail when i come home. What do you do when you get a bad byte-by-byte comparison? I also wished Dantz included a small email client in the retro server so that the log could easilly be mailed to the administrator. I've tried to get the thirdparty thing to work twize but it fails each time. Maybe I do another try around christmas or if anyone have a brighter sollution than the current, please mail it to me, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I plan to use Luke Jaegers suggestion of one tape each day, wouldn't that be secure enough?? I mean, if the byte-to-byte comparisson fails it nly matters if it fails on the single files the client were just working with or did I miss something... My experience with our hardware is that if one leave them they usually can stand trouble free for years. It's been like that so far. We did our backup to a harddrive before we bought the VXA tapes and I'm new to tape bakup. thanx, / jakob -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
verify media
What exactly is the purpose of verifying media after copying it? How often is a file copied incorrect? It would be like copying 5 files over the network but only four is correct copied and can be used... Also, that means one have to check the entire log after every single backup and recopy bad files and seriously, how many of you folks out there really take the time to do so? My guess is that one file out of 10 billion, 10.000.000.000, is incorrect copied and I'm ain't gonna take the time to look for that file... I can see the point in verifying media but still, I see no point in veifying media... --- Vive la France! - Happy holiday! / jakob -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: verify media
What exactly is the purpose of verifying media after copying it? To prevent data loss. How often is a file copied incorrect? Every time a tape goes bad. My guess is that one file out of 10 billion, 10.000.000.000, is incorrect copied and I'm ain't gonna take the time to look for that file... I can see the point in verifying media but still, I see no point in veifying media... I'm talking about byte-by-byte comparison. If you do no comparison, do you check to see that your data is restorable? If you don't check it, you must not have heard the common stories about having no useable backup after a major crash. I've heard many. Eric Zylstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
