Re: Software re-binned PD data

2019-09-27 Thread Reinhard Kleeberg
The problem of falsified counting statistics (deviating from Poisson distribution) sometimes arises even from (wrong) conversion of 0D detector data (typically when originally cps have been stored and the counting time got lost in the conversion), and is quite common when 1D detector data are

Re: Software re-binned PD data

2019-09-27 Thread Jonathan WRIGHT
If this rule is broken, such as the mode in FIT2D that smooths patterns by pixel-splitting) then one introduces correlation between points in the pattern Hi Brian, your comment has triggered me it seems :-) For SAXS and PDF it could be better to under-sample the data (see end), but for

Re: RE: Software re-binned PD data

2019-09-27 Thread Alan Hewat
Tony. If you want the statistics to be the same as for larger steps you should be adding the counts from your PSD channels, not averaging them. That said, with an x-ray PSD you perhaps have so much intensity that uncertainties in your refined parameters due to counting statistics may be small

Re: RE: Software re-binned PD data

2019-09-27 Thread Matthew Rowles
Hi Tony If you want to have a look at what the uncertainties are doing, then try scanning over a peak a couple of dozen times (maybe with a few different mA settings on the tube, maybe with some different step times) to collect a range of different intensities. The standard deviation of the "raw"

RE: Software re-binned PD data

2019-09-26 Thread alancoelho
Hi Tony >My I ask is this re-bined data from the measurement software considered as "raw data" or "treated data"? I'm not sure what is meant by treated data. Almost all neutron data and synchrotron data with area detectors are "treated data". If the detector has a slit width in the

Re: Software re-binned PD data

2019-09-26 Thread Toby, Brian H.
Tony, These days many if not most powder instruments (~100% of those at synchrotron and neutron sources) do some sort of data processing to take raw measurements and convert them to diffractograms that are used in Rietveld. The key for how to know if this is done properly is to ask if any

Re: Software re-binned PD data

2019-09-26 Thread Daniel M . Többens
Hello, the term "raw data" has become kind of fuzzy in recent times. Most powder diffractometers nowadays are equipped with some kind of linear or area detector. The 1D powder pattern in this case is always the result of some integration, merging, and binning. I would take "raw" to mean

Re: Software re-binned PD data

2019-09-26 Thread Alan Hewat
Tony, if you bin (add) the raw data you can perform Rietveld refinement as if you had taken larger steps. Regards, Alan. On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 at 05:42, iangie wrote: > Dear Rietvelder, > > I hope you are doing well. > It is generally acknolwdged that Rietveld refinement should be performed > on