Re: Rietveld

2018-08-22 Thread Alan Hewat
*> Argh ! Shame on us three ! * Yes, we went too far. Sorry Armel. But Robert only has to read the footer at the bottom of every post to find how to remove himself. __ * Dr Alan Hewat, NeutronOptics, Grenoble, FRANCE * +33.476.98.41.68

Re: Rietveld

2018-08-22 Thread Le Bail Armel
Argh ! Shame on us three !   But be careful to not confuse an example with a counter-example ;-)   In 1986 had already started the times where Rietveld was so famous that giving his name in the paper was sufficient. You can probably find >20.000 such papers citing the Rietveld method and not

RE:Rietveld

2018-08-22 Thread PAPOULAR Robert
ENOUGH ! Please remove me of your bloody list !! robert.papou...@cea.fr De : rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr [rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr] de la part de Alan Hewat [alan.he...@neutronoptics.com] Envoyé : mercredi 22 août 2018 14:20 À

Re: Rietveld

2018-08-22 Thread Alan Hewat
*> Another example.. Loopstra, van Laar and Breed Physics Letters 26A(11) 1968, 526* (AleB) Examples are easy. In Gibaud, Le Bail and Bulou J. Phys. C: Solid State Phys. 19 (1986) 4623 "*...the Rietveld program modified by Le

[SUSPECTED SPAM] Re: Rietveld

2018-08-22 Thread Leonid Solovyov
>That is why I prefer to use Rietveld's original term "profile refinement" for >all kinds of powder pattern refinement, and reference Loopstra and Rietveld >(1969) instead of >just Rietveld (1969) In the Introduction of Loopstra and Rietveld (1969) they referred to the approach as "the profile

Re: Rietveld

2018-08-22 Thread Alan Hewat
Leonid. Rietveld's code is indeed a specific type of profile refinement. Structure parameters are refined to fit the observed profile intensities using a least squares code similar to that used to fit integrated Bragg intensities at Oak Ridge - ORFLS (1962). From 1961 profile refinement methods

Re: Rietveld

2018-08-22 Thread Leonid Solovyov
>Gauss and Legendre's work shows that science is not performed by individuals >in a vacuum. >Now we call it "Least Squares Refinement" and not "Gauss >Refinement". It seems that the basic collision is in the absence of strict and commonly accepted definition of the 'Rietveld Method' term. Does