Re: understanding peak width broadening during LiOH growth

2022-08-02 Thread Peter Y. Zavalij
Now Topas has anisotropy built in the GUI version too. No script is needed.
Peter

Peter Y. Zavalij, PHD
Director - X-ray Crystallographic Center
University of Maryland,
College Park, MD 20742



On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 9:16 AM Radovan Cerny  wrote:

> Dear Enyuan,
>
>
> as Wojciech said, you have certainly the effect of stacking faults. LiOH
> is a tetragonal structure and the layers are parallel with ab plane. It
> means that the faulting has an effect on the reflections with l-index
> non-zero. The faulting can be roughly understood as a size effect in the
> direction of c-axis. From your WH plot it is evident that the reflections
> 110 and 200 are not-affected while all the others with l non-zero are
> affected. With increasing l-index, the effect is stronger.
>
> You can easily refine this anisotropy with many Rietveld programs. Maybe
> somebody can provide a script for Topas for example or in Profex or
> Fullprof such models may be available.
>
>
> It stays to explain why the cycling of a battery introduce stacking faults
> in LiOH.
>
>
> Best regards
>
>
> Radovan
>
>
> Radovan Cerny
> Laboratoire de Cristallographie
> Université de Genève
> 24, quai Ernest-Ansermet
> CH-1211 Geneva 4, Switzerland
> Phone  : [+[41] 22] 37 964 50, FAX : [+[41] 22] 37 961 08
> mailto : radovan.ce...@unige.ch
> URL: http://www.unige.ch/sciences/crystal/cerny/rcerny.htm
>
>
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> *Objet :* Re: understanding peak width broadening during LiOH growth
>
>
> Dear Enyuan,
>
> LiOH is definitely a layered structure. In such kind of structures, it is
> likely that extra anisotropic broadening can be caused by “stacking
> faults”. In your case, peaks with mixed kh and l index are generally
> broader than  those 00l or hk0.
>
> It would require a detailed study but you can also look at my paper
>
> https://pubs.acs.org/doi/full/10.1021/acs.inorgchem.6b02247
>
> With best regards,
>
> Wojciech Slawinski
>
> wslawin...@chem.uw.edu.pl
>
>
>
> *From:* rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr <> *On Behalf Of *Enyuan Hu
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 20, 2022 5:41 AM
> *To:* RIETVELD_L Distribution List 
> *Subject:* understanding peak width broadening during LiOH growth
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> I am seeking help on understanding why peak broadens during LiOH crystal
> development.
>
>
>
> Background: we have identified LiOH as a major component in the interphase
> of batteries and we are trying to understand how it evolves. We obtained
> the Williamson-Hall plot for the LiOH phase as shown below. Black: 1st cycle;
> Red: 5th cycle; Green: 30th cycle. So the green one has obvious anisotropic
> broadening and we found literature that suggests this is due to
> pallet-shaped LiOH. But going from 1st cycle to 30th cycle (black to
> green), the peak width is in general more broadened. We thought LiOH would
> grow in size so the peaks should become more sharp. So this is sort of
> against our expectations. Can such a phenomenon be explained by strain and
> if so, can anyone provide comments or suggestions? Thank you!
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Enyuan
>
>
>
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RE: understanding peak width broadening during LiOH growth

2022-08-02 Thread Radovan Cerny
Dear Enyuan,


as Wojciech said, you have certainly the effect of stacking faults. LiOH is a 
tetragonal structure and the layers are parallel with ab plane. It means that 
the faulting has an effect on the reflections with l-index non-zero. The 
faulting can be roughly understood as a size effect in the direction of c-axis. 
From your WH plot it is evident that the reflections 110 and 200 are 
not-affected while all the others with l non-zero are affected. With increasing 
l-index, the effect is stronger.

You can easily refine this anisotropy with many Rietveld programs. Maybe 
somebody can provide a script for Topas for example or in Profex or Fullprof 
such models may be available.


It stays to explain why the cycling of a battery introduce stacking faults in 
LiOH.


Best regards


Radovan


Radovan Cerny
Laboratoire de Cristallographie
Université de Genève
24, quai Ernest-Ansermet
CH-1211 Geneva 4, Switzerland
Phone  : [+[41] 22] 37 964 50, FAX : [+[41] 22] 37 961 08
mailto : radovan.ce...@unige.ch<mailto:radovan.ce...@unige.ch>
URL: http://www.unige.ch/sciences/crystal/cerny/rcerny.htm



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Envoyé : mercredi, 20 juillet 2022 11:16
À : rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr
Objet : Re: understanding peak width broadening during LiOH growth


Dear Enyuan,

LiOH is definitely a layered structure. In such kind of structures, it is 
likely that extra anisotropic broadening can be caused by “stacking faults”. In 
your case, peaks with mixed kh and l index are generally broader than  those 
00l or hk0.

It would require a detailed study but you can also look at my paper

https://pubs.acs.org/doi/full/10.1021/acs.inorgchem.6b02247

With best regards,

Wojciech Slawinski

wslawin...@chem.uw.edu.pl



From: rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr <> On Behalf Of Enyuan Hu
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2022 5:41 AM
To: RIETVELD_L Distribution List 
Subject: understanding peak width broadening during LiOH growth



Hi all,



I am seeking help on understanding why peak broadens during LiOH crystal 
development.



Background: we have identified LiOH as a major component in the interphase of 
batteries and we are trying to understand how it evolves. We obtained the 
Williamson-Hall plot for the LiOH phase as shown below. Black: 1st cycle; Red: 
5th cycle; Green: 30th cycle. So the green one has obvious anisotropic 
broadening and we found literature that suggests this is due to pallet-shaped 
LiOH. But going from 1st cycle to 30th cycle (black to green), the peak width 
is in general more broadened. We thought LiOH would grow in size so the peaks 
should become more sharp. So this is sort of against our expectations. Can such 
a phenomenon be explained by strain and if so, can anyone provide comments or 
suggestions? Thank you!



Regards

Enyuan



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Re: understanding peak width broadening during LiOH growth

2022-07-20 Thread wslawinski
Dear Enyuan,

LiOH is definitely a layered structure. In such kind of structures, it is 
likely that extra anisotropic broadening can be caused by “stacking faults”. In 
your case, peaks with mixed kh and l index are generally broader than  those 
00l or hk0.

It would require a detailed study but you can also look at my paper 

https://pubs.acs.org/doi/full/10.1021/acs.inorgchem.6b02247

With best regards,

Wojciech Slawinski

wslawin...@chem.uw.edu.pl

 

From: rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr <> On Behalf Of Enyuan Hu
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2022 5:41 AM
To: RIETVELD_L Distribution List 
Subject: understanding peak width broadening during LiOH growth

 

Hi all,

 

I am seeking help on understanding why peak broadens during LiOH crystal 
development. 

 

Background: we have identified LiOH as a major component in the interphase of 
batteries and we are trying to understand how it evolves. We obtained the 
Williamson-Hall plot for the LiOH phase as shown below. Black: 1st cycle; Red: 
5th cycle; Green: 30th cycle. So the green one has obvious anisotropic 
broadening and we found literature that suggests this is due to pallet-shaped 
LiOH. But going from 1st cycle to 30th cycle (black to green), the peak width 
is in general more broadened. We thought LiOH would grow in size so the peaks 
should become more sharp. So this is sort of against our expectations. Can such 
a phenomenon be explained by strain and if so, can anyone provide comments or 
suggestions? Thank you!

 

Regards

Enyuan

 



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