Re: Re: [Rife-users] Possible RIFE license change

2005-08-25 Thread Maarten Stolte
Yeah, thats what I meant to say with the choosing of licenses, I didn't mean that one of those would be for commercial usage. Maarten -Original Message- From: Geert Bevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Maarten Stolte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 00:41:12 +0200 Subject: Re: [Rife-

Re: [Rife-users] Possible RIFE license change

2005-08-25 Thread Geert Bevin
> is it possible for RIFE to be dual licensed? Some projects (qt) are > dual licensed, for example for commercial and non-commercial useage. > Might it be possible to just dual license and say 'choose one of > these 2 licenses and adhere to them', or would it cause more > confusion maybe? Those pr

Re: [Rife-users] Possible RIFE license change

2005-08-25 Thread Maarten Stolte
Hi, Op 25-aug-2005, om 22:17 heeft Geert Bevin het volgende geschreven: BSD and Apache don't do what I want, they don't require changes or derivates to be recontributed as source under the same license. GPL is not usable for a library. LGPL generates *a lot* of problems. Most Java developer

Re: [Rife-users] Possible RIFE license change

2005-08-25 Thread Geert Bevin
I blogged about it here: http://rifers.org/blogs/gbevin/2005/8/25/lgpl_for_java_apache_blessing On 8/25/05, Geert Bevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > BSD and Apache don't do what I want, they don't require changes or > derivates to be recontributed as source under the same license. > > GPL is not

Re: [Rife-users] Possible RIFE license change

2005-08-25 Thread Geert Bevin
BSD and Apache don't do what I want, they don't require changes or derivates to be recontributed as source under the same license. GPL is not usable for a library. LGPL generates *a lot* of problems. Most Java developers shun it since there are many conflicting interpretations. I've been followin

Re: [Rife-users] Possible RIFE license change

2005-08-25 Thread Keith Lea
Even without Sun I think using new or nonstandard licenses is not a good idea especially for a project such as RIFE which does not have much publicity. I think BSD, Apache, or GPL are the only choices, if I were making the decision. On Aug 25, 2005, at 4:09 PM, Geert Bevin wrote: You have

Re: [Rife-users] Possible RIFE license change

2005-08-25 Thread Geert Bevin
You have scroll halfway down http://www.sun.com/cddl/cddl.html to read something about Sun, and it just says they are the initial license steward. On 8/25/05, Keith Lea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > MPL doesn't have much visibility. I am not familiar with it. I know > (L)GPL and BSD, and basically

Re: [Rife-users] Possible RIFE license change

2005-08-25 Thread Keith Lea
MPL doesn't have much visibility. I am not familiar with it. I know (L)GPL and BSD, and basically nothing else, myself. Anyway, people are against Sun. I think people will visit the web page, see "Sun license," and close the tab. On Aug 25, 2005, at 4:00 PM, Geert Bevin wrote: The things

Re: [Rife-users] Possible RIFE license change

2005-08-25 Thread Geert Bevin
The things I read about it are quite good. It's an improved Mozilla license. People aren't against MPL, aren't they? On 8/25/05, Keith Lea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think going with a Sun license is going to repel many more people > than LGPL. A lot of open source fanatics hate Sun's licensi

Re: [Rife-users] Possible RIFE license change

2005-08-25 Thread Keith Lea
I think going with a Sun license is going to repel many more people than LGPL. A lot of open source fanatics hate Sun's licensing and I think many people (maybe myself included) wouldn't take a second look at a project under a Sun license. On Aug 25, 2005, at 3:43 PM, Geert Bevin wrote: H

[Rife-users] Current javadocs

2005-08-25 Thread Geert Bevin
The current state of the javadocs is available at: http://rifers.org/docs/api/ Please comment if you find inconsistancies or contribute changes or additions if you feel iike it. Thanks! Geert -- Geert Bevin Uwyn bvba "Use what you need" Avenue de Scailmont 3

[Rife-users] About to release RIFE 1.0

2005-08-25 Thread Geert Bevin
Hi again, I've scheduled RIFE 1.0 to be released late next Monday. I've uploaded distribution snapshots of the current repository, you can download them here: http://rifers.org/downloads/rife/ Please test them out and report any problems you find. The draft of the release notes is available fro

[Rife-users] Possible RIFE license change

2005-08-25 Thread Geert Bevin
Hello everyone, I've gotten quite some remarks about LGPL lately since it's unclear in the Java world and is shunned by Apache and many commercial organisations. I've been recommended to look at CDDL since it was written for the same situation as RIFE. Information about CDDL can be found here: htt