Hi Mork,

what do you mean what 'nothing happens'? Is the user logged out, but you don't see a new page? Is there a URL generated in the login box? Did you look at example 7 about authentication? Btw, if you want to snap back to the same location, you need to trigger the request through a submission (which doesn't mean a form though, you can have URL submissions). The exit in LoginBox is simply there to be able to go to the logout element from within the LoginBox element. If you don't want the submission check to 'pollute' the implementation of LoginBox, you can use precedence to just handle that.
http://rifers.org/wiki/display/RIFE/Snapbacks
http://rifers.org/wiki/display/RIFE/Precedence

Hope this helps,

Geert

On 29 Mar 2007, at 16:49, Mork Ork wrote:

Hello Geert, excuse me fot the delay. Today i tried the jar16 and it works. Thanks :)

But now there another issue, i cant logout within my auth template. If i click on theloutout link, nothing happens. Have you any idea?

>> pub.xml

    <element id="Logout" file="auth/logout.xml">
              <flowlink srcexit="logged_out" snapback="true"/>
    </element>

<element id="LoginBox" file="auth/loggedInElement.xml" inherits="AuthBox">
        <flowlink srcexit="logout" destid="Logout"/>
    </element>

>> loggedInElement.xml

<!DOCTYPE element SYSTEM "/dtd/element.dtd">
<element implementation="com.cm.fc.elements.auth.LoggedInElement">
    <exit name="logout"/>
</element>

>> loggedIn.html

<nobr><p>Welcome <r:v name="login"/>.</p></nobr>
<p><a href="${v EXIT:QUERY:logout/}">log out</a></p>

>> logout.xml

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1"?>
<!DOCTYPE element SYSTEM "/dtd/element.dtd">

<element extends="rife/logout/passthrough/database.xml">
<property name="datasource"><datasource>mysql</datasource></ property>
    <property name="authvar_type">cookie</property>
</element>

2007/3/25, Geert Bevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Ahh, yeah, the upcoming RIFE has specific support for JDK 1.6 and the
new JDBC, but that hasn't been integrated in the nightly builds yet
since it requires the building to be executed with a different JDK.

To have the JDK 1.6 jar, you need to build from sources. Checkout the
current version from Subversion and do "ant jar16". You'll have that
binary jar you need sitting in build/dist.

Hope this helps,

Geert

On 25 Mar 2007, at 02:01, Mork0075 wrote:

> Hello Geert,
>
> now i'am facing a new problem: i changed the rife jar in my
> project, now
> its up to date. But if i run my project (with the
> BlockingParticipant to
> install the tables and default user) i get an exception that the
> default
> user cant be installed, because DBResultSet40 ClassNotFoundException.
> Are there any other dependencies i have to update when updating to
> a new
> rife jar?
>
> In my IDE i use Java 1.6 with Compiler Compliance Level set to 1.5.
> May
> this also cause problems?
>
> Thanks a lot
> Marvin
>
>
> Geert Bevin schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> definitely, the snapshot is actually more stable that the latest
>> release. I'll be pushing out a new release in the next couple of
>> weeks. I think the problem you're referring to was solved a couple of
>> months in the RIFE core project, not the jumpstart.
>>
>> Take care,
>>
>> Geert
>>
>> On 24 Mar 2007, at 12:51, Mork0075 wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> great, this works for me to. But this also means, that there's an
>>> issue
>>> in the jumpstart archive published on the rife site?! Would you
>>> recommand using an snapshot archive for productive development?
>>>
>>> Geert Bevin schrieb:
>>>> I tried it with the archive that you sent me and simply replaced
>>>> the
>>>> RIFE jar with the latest binary nightly build.
>>>>
>>>> On 24 Mar 2007, at 10:46, Mork0075 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Geert,
>>>>>
>>>>> have you tried it with the jumpstart 1.5.1 archive from the rife
>>>>> site or
>>>>> with an snapshot from the current head of the repository?
>>>>>
>>>>> Geert Bevin schrieb:
>>>>>> Strange, I tried it with a recent snapshot and it works just
>>>>>> fine.
>>>>>> You
>>>>>> have an error in your site structure though since you're
>>>>>> linking from
>>>>>> an exit that doesn't exit (logged_out). Besides that, the site
>>>>>> starts
>>>>>> up without any errors. Are you sue you don't have another copy
>>>>>> lingering around in your classpath?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 23 Mar 2007, at 09:44, Mork Ork wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok, tried it, but same error
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "The property 'datasource' of element
>>>>>>> 'rife/authenticated/database.xml' was expected to have the type >>>>>>> 'com.uwyn.rife.database.Datasource', however it's actual type '
>>>>>>> java.lang.String' couldn't be cast to it."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have you received the project archive? it was about 10mb, so
>>>>>>> it took
>>>>>>> a while.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2007/3/23, Geert Bevin < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>:Hang on, can you
>>>>>>> quickly
>>>>>>> try something for me, don't use the MySQL
>>>>>>> jar that is in your project (mysql-connector-java-5.0.5-
>>>>>>> bin.jar).
>>>>>>> MySQL's JDBC drivers have a tendency to be frequently
>>>>>>> unstable and
>>>>>>> incompatible, can you try with this one that's in here http://
>>>>>>> rifers.org/download/95/rife-sumo-1.5.1-jdk15.zip ? That's
>>>>>>> what is
>>>>>>> used to test RIFE.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 23 Mar 2007, at 03:00, Mork Ork wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I did some debugging, perhaps this is helpful:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The error occurs in
>>>>>>>> PurgingDatabaseAuthenticatedDeployer.java where
>>>>>>>> a Datasource object tries to be created (line 59). This line is
>>>>>>>> executed twice. First time the correct datasource object is
>>>>>>>> created
>>>>>>>> (with my mysql settings). The second time in
>>>>>>>> ElementInfo.getPropertyTyped an exception is thrown in line
>>>>>>>> 1195
>>>>>>>> (if (!type.isAssignableFrom(result.getClass()))).  In the
>>>>>>>> first run
>>>>>>>> the value of result is Datsource (the mysql one), in the second
>>>>>>>> run, the value of result is "".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think this is the failure. The datasource seems to be
>>>>>>>> identified
>>>>>>>> correctly once and then (i dont know why) a second
>>>>>>>> datasource tries
>>>>>>>> to be created from an empty input "".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2007/3/23, Mork Ork <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hi Geert,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> this is my site structure ( pub.xml)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://rifers.org/paste/show/4031
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is universalAuthElement.xml
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://rifers.org/paste/show/4032
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is loginBoxElement.xml
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://rifers.org/paste/show/4033
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And this is the complete stack trace.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://rifers.org/paste/show/4034
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks a lot for your time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2007/3/23, Geert Bevin < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>>>>>> Can you post the entire stacktrace of the exception you get
>>>>>>>> and the
>>>>>>>> site structure in which universalAuthElement.xml is declared
>>>>>>>> also?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 22 Mar 2007, at 14:17, Mork Ork wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ok, i checked this but same error
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> config-base.xml
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <config>
>>>>>>>>>     <param name="datasource">mysql</param>
>>>>>>>>>     <param name="database_name">rife</param>
>>>>>>>>>     <param name="database_user">rife</param>
>>>>>>>>>     <param name="database_password">rife</param>
>>>>>>>>> </config>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> participants.xml
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <rep>
>>>>>>>>>     <participant param="rep/config- base.xml
>>>>>>>>> ">ParticipantConfig</
>>>>>>>>> participant>
>>>>>>>>>     <participant param="rep/
>>>>>>>>> datasources.xml">ParticipantDatasources</participant>
>>>>>>>>>     <property name="datasource"><datasource>mysql</
>>>>>>>>> datasource></
>>>>>>>>> property>
>>>>>>>>>     <participant blocking="true"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> param="datasource">com.cm.financeloupe.participants.Participant
>>>>>>>> Databas
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> eAuthentication</participant>
>>>>>>>>>     <participant param="sites/main.xml">ParticipantSite</
>>>>>>>> participant>
>>>>>>>>> </rep>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> datasources.xml
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     <datasource name="mysql">
>>>>>>>>>         <driver>com.mysql.jdbc.Driver</driver>
>>>>>>>>>         <url>jdbc:mysql://localhost:3306/<config
>>>>>>>>> param="database_name"/>?autoReconnect=true</url>
>>>>>>>>>         <user><config param="database_user"/></user>
>>>>>>>>>         <password><config param="database_password"/></
>>>>>>>>> password>
>>>>>>>>>         <poolsize>5</poolsize>
>>>>>>>>>     </datasource>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> universalAuthElement.xml
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <!DOCTYPE element SYSTEM "/dtd/element.dtd">
>>>>>>>>> <element extends="rife/authenticated/database.xml">
>>>>>>>>>     <property name="authvar_type">cookie</property>
>>>>>>>>>     <submission name="credentials">
>>>>>>>>>         <param name="login"/>
>>>>>>>>>         <param name="password"/>
>>>>>>>>>     </submission>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     <property name="datasource"><datasource>mysql</
>>>>>>>>> datasource></
>>>>>>>>> property>
>>>>>>>>>     <childtrigger name="authid"/>
>>>>>>>>> </element>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> LoginBoxElement.xml
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <!DOCTYPE element SYSTEM "/dtd/element.dtd">
>>>>>>>>> <element extends="auth/universalAuthElement.xml">
>>>>>>>>>     <property name="template_name"> auth.login</property>
>>>>>>>>>     <property name="role">visitor</property>
>>>>>>>>> </element>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2007/3/22, Henk < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>:Check the following :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> rep/datasources.xml : should contain
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <datasource name="mysql">
>>>>>>>>>          <driver> com.mysql.jdbc.Driver</driver>
>>>>>>>>>          <url>jdbc:mysql://localhost:3306/<config
>>>>>>>>> param="database_name"/>?autoReconnect=true</url>
>>>>>>>>>          <user><config param="database_user"/></user>
>>>>>>>>>          <password><config param="database_password"/></
>>>>>>>>> password>
>>>>>>>>>          <poolsize>5</poolsize>
>>>>>>>>> </datasource>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> rep/config- base.xml : should contain
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <param name="DATASOURCE">mysql</param>
>>>>>>>>> <param name="database_name">yourdatabase</param>
>>>>>>>>> <param name="database_user">youruser</param>
>>>>>>>>> <param name="database_password">yourpassword</param>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mysql should be running, the database should exist together
>>>>>>>>> with a
>>>>>>>>> working user.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> cheers
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Henk
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 22 Mar 2007, at 21:51, Mork0075 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ok, thanks a lot, this was my mistake.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But the other problem remains:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The property 'datasource' of element 'auth/
>>>>>>>>>> loginBoxElement.xml'
>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>> expected to have the type '
>>>>>>>>>> com.uwyn.rife.database.Datasource',
>>>>>>>>> however
>>>>>>>>>> it's actual type ' java.lang.String' couldn't be cast to it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Henk schrieb:
>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, rife jumpstart does support MySQL, but does not
>>>>>>>>> include the
>>>>>>>>>>> driver.  Moreover, it depends on your mysql version which
>>>>>>>>>>> jdbc
>>>>>>>>> driver
>>>>>>>>>>> you should use.  Check out http://www.mysql.com/products/
>>>>>>>>> connector/j/
>>>>>>>>>>> for more information.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> good luck
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Henk
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 22 Mar 2007, at 21:23, Mork0075 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I use the rife jumpstart project, i thaught theres mysql
>>>>>>>>>>>> support
>>>>>>>>>>>> out of
>>>>>>>>>>>> the box?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Henk schrieb:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you probably checked this, but are you sure the MySQL jdbc
>>>>>>>>>>>>> driver is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the classpath ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cheers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Henk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 22 Mar 2007, at 21:11, Mork0075 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i try to add some basic database functionality to my rife
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> app,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but got
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some errors.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> First of all, adding this line to my auth.xml  (which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extends
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rife/autheticated/database.xml) element
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <property name="datasource"><datasource>mysql</
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasource></
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> property>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> causes the following error:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The property 'datasource' of element 'auth/
>>>>>>>> loginBoxElement.xml '
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expected to have the type
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ' com.uwyn.rife.database.Datasource',
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> however
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's actual type ' java.lang.String' couldn't be cast
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The second thing i did, i've added the sample blocking
>>>>>>>>> element to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> create
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the database tables: (this is my pacitipants.xml )
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rep>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     <participant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> param="rep/config- base.xml">ParticipantConfig</
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> participant>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     <participant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> param="rep/datasources.xml">ParticipantDatasources</
>>>>>>>> participant>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     <property
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> name="datasource"><datasource>mysql</datasource></
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> property>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     <participant blocking="true"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> param="datasource">com.cm.financeloupe.participants.Participan
>>>>>>>>> tDat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> abaseAuthentication</participant>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <participant param="sites/ main.xml">ParticipantSite</
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> participant>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> </rep>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This causes this error:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> com.uwyn.rife.database.exceptions.DriverInstantiationErrorExce
>>>>>>>>> ptio
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> n:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Couldn't instantiate the JDBC driver '
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com.mysql.jdbc.Driver'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I tried to track it down with debugging (incl rife
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sources)
>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any luck.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can somebody give me a hint? :) Thanks a lot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> P.S.:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The datasource.xml looks like this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     <datasource name="mysql">
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         <driver> com.mysql.jdbc.Driver</driver>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         <url>jdbc:mysql://localhost:3306/<config
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> param="database_name"/></url>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         <user><config param="database_user"/></user>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         <password><config param="database_password"/></
>>>>>>>> password>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         <poolsize>5</poolsize>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     </datasource>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Henk
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> --Geert Bevin
>>>>>>>> Uwyn "Use what you need" - http://uwyn.com
>>>>>>>> RIFE Java application framework - http://rifers.org
>>>>>>>> Music and words - http://gbevin.com
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --Geert Bevin
>>>>>>> Uwyn "Use what you need" - http://uwyn.com
>>>>>>> RIFE Java application framework - http://rifers.org
>>>>>>> Music and words - http://gbevin.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> --Geert Bevin
>>>>>> Uwyn "Use what you need" - http://uwyn.com
>>>>>> RIFE Java application framework - http://rifers.org
>>>>>> Music and words - http://gbevin.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> --Geert Bevin
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>>>> RIFE Java application framework - http://rifers.org
>>>> Music and words - http://gbevin.com
>>>>
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