Re: [Rife-users] A bit frustrated

2006-06-23 Thread Geert Bevin
Hi Steve, If someone can give the new material a quick read and make sure it's accurate and that my adaptation of Emmanuel's code is I read over it and it looks very nice, just made a couple of minor modifications. the right way to do things, that'd be super. In particular I tried and f

Re: [Rife-users] A bit frustrated

2006-06-19 Thread Steven Grimm
Not sure if it's better to start a new thread or just extend this one, but: Geert Bevin wrote: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.rife.user/2767/focus=2767 ... Emmanuel also gives a good summary of how to use database authentication, with clear code snippets. I am probably just slow, but

Re: [Rife-users] A bit frustrated

2006-06-18 Thread Steven Grimm
Geert Bevin wrote: The tables are not 'automatically' created by the framework. It's up to you to call the install() methods on the manager classes that are involved. If you want to know the structure, either read the source code of the manager classes or look at what has been created during d

Re: [Rife-users] A bit frustrated

2006-06-18 Thread Geert Bevin
Hi Stefan, Hmm, one example was, when I tried to send an email and I remembered RIFE had some functionality for this. After reading through the examples and looking at the code, I realized that RIFE only supported asynchronous sending of mails. Probably because synchronously sending mails

Re: [Rife-users] A bit frustrated

2006-06-18 Thread Emmanuel Okyere
I like it... if only for the fact that two weeks down the line he'll have to write again... only this time to say what a darling rife is ;P On 6/18/06, Eddy Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 18 Jun 2006, at 22:58, Steven Grimm wrote: > > Once again, though, I apologize if I've offended anyone

Re: [Rife-users] A bit frustrated

2006-06-18 Thread Eddy Young
On 18 Jun 2006, at 22:58, Steven Grimm wrote: Once again, though, I apologize if I've offended anyone. That is not the intent at all. Steven, My reply was meant to encourage you to post your questions on the mailing list more than anything else. Eddy -- http://coding.mu http://priscimo

Re: [Rife-users] A bit frustrated

2006-06-18 Thread Geert Bevin
It wasn't my first post on the list, but I will grant you that I am not a longtime participant -- which is kind of the point. The message in question was the perspective of someone who hasn't had a lot of experience with RIFE yet, which means someone who hasn't spent lots of time asking que

Re: [Rife-users] A bit frustrated

2006-06-18 Thread Steven Grimm
Eddy Young wrote: It is unfortunate that your first post on the mailing list is to announce a blog entry ranting about your irks with RIFE. Most of us use the mailing list as a second source of documentation when the Wiki does not provide the answer. It wasn't my first post on the list, but I

Re: [Rife-users] A bit frustrated

2006-06-18 Thread Geert Bevin
Hi Steven, I'm glad to hear the first part of that, and yes, I did notice a lot of examples in the release notes, which are great. My harsh comment was based solely on the parts of the framework I've tried to use. The template system is quite well documented, enough so that I felt confide

Re: [Rife-users] A bit frustrated

2006-06-18 Thread Eddy Young
On 18 Jun 2006, at 09:20, Steven Grimm wrote: I feel like I'm fumbling around in the dark with RIFE. How are other people coming up to speed on this framework? I'm finding myself spending five times as long searching (often fruitlessly) for documentation as I'm spending actually getting wo

Re: [Rife-users] A bit frustrated

2006-06-18 Thread Steven Grimm
Geert Bevin wrote: Also, since three years, no public APIs get committed anymore without Javadocs. Additionally, as you probably saw, each release contains extremely detailed release notes with examples that are afterwards aggregated in the wiki's cookbook. I think that there is no open-source

Re: [Rife-users] A bit frustrated

2006-06-18 Thread Steven Grimm
Sorry about that -- it should be fixed now. My comment-spam defense was broken. -Steve Geert Bevin wrote: Comments on your blog seem to be broken, would you mind looking into that so that I can reply there too? ___ Rife-users mailing list Rife-use

Re: [Rife-users] A bit frustrated

2006-06-18 Thread Stefan Thomas
Hi Geert, Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I must say that feel exactly the same way as Steven and most of the time when I want to learn something new with RIFE, I end up reading sources for hours. It would be interesting to know which areas were the main problem for you and why the curre

Re: [Rife-users] A bit frustrated

2006-06-18 Thread Geert Bevin
Hi Stefan, Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I must say that feel exactly the same way as Steven and most of the time when I want to learn something new with RIFE, I end up reading sources for hours. It would be interesting to know which areas were the main problem for you and why the cu

Re: [Rife-users] A bit frustrated

2006-06-18 Thread Stefan Thomas
Hi Steven, hi Geert, I must say that feel exactly the same way as Steven and most of the time when I want to learn something new with RIFE, I end up reading sources for hours. By now, I can almost always tell the year some code was written, just by looking at the RIFE-features it utilizes. :)

Re: [Rife-users] A bit frustrated

2006-06-18 Thread Geert Bevin
Hi Steven, I'm sorry that you're bumping into this block. I agree that documentation is lacking in some areas, mostly for code that was initiated earlier than three years ago. We've tried to fill in the Javadocs holes and I think that in the areas that we did cover, we're doing an excellen

[Rife-users] A bit frustrated

2006-06-18 Thread Steven Grimm
I feel like I'm fumbling around in the dark with RIFE. How are other people coming up to speed on this framework? I'm finding myself spending five times as long searching (often fruitlessly) for documentation as I'm spending actually getting work done. (It's the "fruitlessly" part that really i